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Forza 5 will require a day 1 free DLC download
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Launch a console without a racing game? No-go.
AlanzTalon
Member
I gotta be honest, even by GAF standards I am completely fucking baffled as to why this is a big deal. We want the best possible game we can get. They realize that they can use 6 or so extra weeks to add content, smash bugs, refine, build, whatever they need. From day one this console has been sold as a connected-first console, where a connection to the Internet is to be assumed.
Everyone in this thread bitching knows the world in which we live, where modern electronics thrive and depend on a connection to a server for the things they need. The Xbox one is no different. Those of us who see this as a good thing, more content for free, only cost to us is having to sit and have a beer while it updates.
Whether you see a patch or a day-one DLC is essentially meaningless. This is how things work. I am happy to trade (honestly I see no trade off....so I got nothing) for the day one content, and any other content they provide free or not.
The game will great.
And besides, I posit that this "I bought a brand new console day one yet have not access to Internet to properly use it" person that GAF seems he'll bent on looking out for is entirely imaginary.
Everyone in this thread bitching knows the world in which we live, where modern electronics thrive and depend on a connection to a server for the things they need. The Xbox one is no different. Those of us who see this as a good thing, more content for free, only cost to us is having to sit and have a beer while it updates.
Whether you see a patch or a day-one DLC is essentially meaningless. This is how things work. I am happy to trade (honestly I see no trade off....so I got nothing) for the day one content, and any other content they provide free or not.
The game will great.
And besides, I posit that this "I bought a brand new console day one yet have not access to Internet to properly use it" person that GAF seems he'll bent on looking out for is entirely imaginary.
So will the game have a "requires internet connection" sticker or something on the packaging to inform people before purchase?
What about the Xbone console? Will it have a requires internet connection warning on the box? I have not seen retailers communicating this to consumers very well during preorders. Some consumers will get burned by this.
What about the Xbone console? Will it have a requires internet connection warning on the box? I have not seen retailers communicating this to consumers very well during preorders. Some consumers will get burned by this.
Ken Masters
Banned
getting out dat launch title is more important thing anything else, who cares if the game isn't done and they charge an arm and leg for DLC to complete the game that likely needed 6-12 months of dev
My biggest issue with this is that the game disc is a coaster until you download the content. It's strange that it's setup that way, that you have to download the rest of the game online. It doesn't sound like the game is playable until this occurs.
lightning2k3
Member
The issue that I see is that the game will only play when servers go down if you already have the dlc installed on your xbox. So if your xbone RRODs and you get a new one or you delete your game install to make room for other games, when servers go down, you are SOL and cant even play your disc based game.
WarMacheen
Member
So if you don't have internet, don't buy the game because whats on the disc is literally unplayable.
idrinkalone
Banned
Put a huge sticker covering half the game saying "Internet required" no coaster, unless someone actually wants to use it as a coaster.
Classic
Or sell it as an "online required" game.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
That's a lot of dedicated servers to bust!
friskykillface
Banned
i thought this was gonna be a day 1 patch like some games have but to download parts of the game with a disc too 0_o
what the fuck Microsoft
my decision to wait til titanfall to get an xbox one is looking better and better
what the fuck Microsoft
my decision to wait til titanfall to get an xbox one is looking better and better
AlanzTalon
Member
Why is everyone so hell bent on conjuring these crazy scenarios where things don't work, instead of the much much much more likely situation of everything working just fine.
Nintendo had a day one thing, but Nintendo sucks at the Internet. MS is really good at servers and Internet shit, comparatively. Better than Sony and Nintendo, at least. They will have as ton of Asure power allocated to the Xbox at launch. It will go just fine.
Crazy scenario, I know.
Nintendo had a day one thing, but Nintendo sucks at the Internet. MS is really good at servers and Internet shit, comparatively. Better than Sony and Nintendo, at least. They will have as ton of Asure power allocated to the Xbox at launch. It will go just fine.
Crazy scenario, I know.
AlanzTalon
Member
If you don't have the Internet in 2013 maybe you have bigger problems in life than worrying about video game downloads.
NullPointer
Member
I just want to frame this.
As I said in the other thread, if this really is just because they need to work all the way up until launch, then surely the second print run will have all the content on it and not require the download, right?
It will be a big sign if they don't do that when they print the game again. If they don't, then I fully expect to see required downloads to play any big MS published game's offline modes.
It will be a big sign if they don't do that when they print the game again. If they don't, then I fully expect to see required downloads to play any big MS published game's offline modes.
Ken Masters
Banned
then came online, where you could just release unfinished games and patch it later and release DLC later
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
I can't blame the dev team, since they were developing for an always-connected version of the console.
So the disc is unplayable without the Download content? Wish MS would just cut the guys a break and allow the game to be launch window. I wouldn't be surprised if the main guy whose name escapes me but the one in the E3 conference leaves because of being overworked or something.
CassiusLonginus
Banned
I freaking LOVE this argument. I mean, screw people with crappy connections and data caps, right?
AlanzTalon
Member
Not 3 weeks ago Sony was bricking consoles with an update. Nintendo can't seem to figure anything put. Comparatively...key word....MS has the best infrastructure in place. I bet the launch of the console, the downloads, all that will go just fine because I think MS has decent minds running Asure.
clay_ghost
Member
lol this again? There is a reason why xbone had a 180.....
People without Internet - the worldwide epidemic sweeping our world.
FYI - it's Azure.
AlanzTalon
Member
Because that is what Turn 10 should develop to...the data cap addled guy on dial up.
AlanzTalon
Member
And I am sure that sucks. But then maybe I don't really concern myself because I want the best possible experience for my racing video game that I will play for an hour after my kids go to bed a few times a week.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Keep in mind that the DRM reversal only happened very recently, it's extremely likely the extra time was already part of the dev schedule since they were working under the assumption that all the consoles were going to be connected.
lol... Would be pretty funny to read this again when FM5 comes out as the most polished and best game on the Xbox one launch lineup. Which is very likely looking back at all the Turn10 previous games.
CassiusLonginus
Banned
Lol yeah, double down on that why not?
You heard it here, everyone! Don't have a decent internet connection, you do not deserve to game!
This is exactly the arrogance that MS showed in their original Online scheme and it bit them in the ass.
I know, fuck the havenots right?
NullPointer
Member
Its been nothing but smooth sailing so far.
can you imagine the shitstorm troll thread there would be if instead of this turn 10 announced the game was in fact delayed? it certainly wouldnt be "oh thank god! good job MS/Turn 10!" like some are trying to imply would be better
I think you misunderstood my post.
I wasn't saying the game will suck. I'm saying it will release unfinished. Maybe I should have said incomplete.
They should sell it as an online required game, or delay till they can ship an offline usable disc.
AlanzTalon
Member
Games are entirely optional. Nobody deserves them.
We are talking about a game update. In 2013. For a launch title. One time. People are posting in here like it is going to cost a big toe to make the game launch.
Having this patch or whatever pejorative you want to use download whatever they game needs is not only common today, but a net good thing.
Flakster99
Member
You don't say. Kicking and screaming, either way Microsoft will find a solution around their always online fiasco. I wonder how many other games will require a significant download just to play the game offline, or online for that matter.
Though it has improved significantly over these recent years, thankfully, I have lost count how many PC games over the decades that I have bought and installed and the game had major bugs which made the game unplayable, or simply not work without a patch. Waiting for that first patch to fix shit was a significant reason that I moved away from PC gaming for a period of time. It was a pain in the ass, and seeing that transition to consoles pisses me off.
I'd be weary about purchasing Forza 5 Day 1, who knows how messed up the servers will be, nevermind the patch and the eventual bugs that will be included after the install. This screams rushed to me. Buyers beware.
Though it has improved significantly over these recent years, thankfully, I have lost count how many PC games over the decades that I have bought and installed and the game had major bugs which made the game unplayable, or simply not work without a patch. Waiting for that first patch to fix shit was a significant reason that I moved away from PC gaming for a period of time. It was a pain in the ass, and seeing that transition to consoles pisses me off.
I'd be weary about purchasing Forza 5 Day 1, who knows how messed up the servers will be, nevermind the patch and the eventual bugs that will be included after the install. This screams rushed to me. Buyers beware.
Literally this.People get day one patches nowadays so this seems like an evolution of that and ensures we get the maximum content possible especially for launch games.I would not be surprised to see other xbox one and ps4 launch games follow suit.
WrenchNinja
Member
Turn 10 should fucking finish their games instead of shipping incomplete ones.
No internet no Xbox One.
How it will be incomplete, when this approach is indeed to give the game more content than it would receive as a launch title?
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I've been playing since the NES. For me, buying a game meant I purchased something I could play whenever I want, and with the medium I purchased. Not anymore. This is disgusting to me.
CassiusLonginus
Banned
Again, not an 'update', it's not a 'patch'. That's pure PR spin.
An update or patch means the game is at least functional without it. This is an actual chunk of the data required for the game to even run.
If you can't see the difference, you are beyond help.
AlanzTalon
Member
It is as complete as any other game. 1 time download. That is all. No cost. People in here working up a froth over a 1 time download.
It reads to me like the disc will have less content than was intended, and the download will be simply giving you what was meant to be there.
Hence why it won't work without it.
Or am I misunderstanding?
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