Barrylocke
Member
If one of the games was Traube's game, then yes I'd have a very real chance.
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Yeah, this is why I'm not doing it. I couldn't even keep up with the Star Wars game once I started playing Animal Crossing.
Some would argue that I couldn't keep up with Animal Crossing, either. 
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
Seriously though, I think we should wait until at least next time before we start experimenting with doubling up. But that's just me.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I strongly believe we shouldn't have people doubling up.
why?
In the case of dead players filling in for drop-outs: I don't think the hit to the community (splitting the dead thread) is worth a short list of people getting to play twice in one round.
In the case of players actually participating in two games at the same time: I think that might cause a bit of a confusing nightmare for the joint moderator setup we've got going (since moderators can step in for each other)
Just focus on your game, and play it to the best of your ability. One game alone can be quite a time sink. If you're slouching, you're potentially a detriment to the rest of the players.
In the case of players actually participating in two games at the same time: I think that might cause a bit of a confusing nightmare for the joint moderator setup we've got going (since moderators can step in for each other)
Just focus on your game, and play it to the best of your ability. One game alone can be quite a time sink. If you're slouching, you're potentially a detriment to the rest of the players.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
The most obvious reason is that we have a list that's overflowing already. Granted, if we're being realistic, there will be a few people who drop out for whatever reason; still, at the quantity we're at now and however many additional people we enlist in the coming days, it's likely we're just not going to have enough open slots for people to play into two games.
Even if we had a shortage of players, it's just not realistic to expect a single person to participate in two games - assuming people have lives outside of these message boards and actually have to sleep. I'm not saying a person couldn't participate reasonably well in two games the majority of the time, but there are a myriad of scenarios where having to provide activity in the two games would be nigh impossible. For example, if a player in two games is the target of suspicion in both games on the same day phase, both day phases end around the same time on the same day; it's a pretty demanding task for that player to actively defend themselves in both games within the same period of time, not even taking into account any extenuating real-life circumstances. Even more alarming, other players may take advantage of the split attention to mount up arguments or attack players based on differences in behavior between two games; in general terms, it invites more metagame analysis.
And as Kark mentioned above, the split attention could be a detriment to both games. Squidy is a pretty great example of why this is a bad thing, because he's very active and writes well-researched/reasoned posts about nearly every player; imagine him having to do it for 40+ players, while having to fight off counter-arguments. Even if it's possible, it would affect the quality of the gameplay a player employs. I'm pretty sure Squidy or anyone can attest that even though there's a bit thumb-twiddling at times, there are periods where games can get very intense and require loads of activity; I would not want to imagine having two games coming down to that at the same time and my having to monitor the two at the same time.
From the perspective of having everyone play to the best of their abilities, and leave the moderators with less of a headache, I really don't think this is something we should do.
oh my posts are well reasoned now? ;P
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
oh my posts are well reasoned now?
Well, I didn't mean to say I agreed with all of them, but you obviously put a good amount of thought into them and provided some evidence.
The only reason this came up is because traube said he wanted to run a 30 player game which means we're short. If we're really overflowing, then obviously no one should play two games until everyone gets a turn.
However if we are short on people, I don't see the problem. Anyone who has played a game knows how time consuming it is and can make up their own minds on how much / little they'd like to participate. We're all grown ups here, we know how to schedule our time.
However if we are short on people, I don't see the problem. Anyone who has played a game knows how time consuming it is and can make up their own minds on how much / little they'd like to participate. We're all grown ups here, we know how to schedule our time.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'm just saying that even if it looks manageable now, there's a bunch of things that could crop up and affect a person's ability to play effectively - grown up or no. There are things you can't plan for.
Alright, I never played a mafia game in my life so I am probably completely wrong, but wouldn't a town player that is confused and fucks up his/her analysis have a higher chance to survive longer? That would create some chaos on the town side, which would benefit the mafia players. So it would be in their interest to keep you as long in the game as possible.
you run into weird scenarios, like opinions about you from one game extend over to the next from the active players. you get an early evict in one game then a few people pity you and it is influencing their judgement, letting you escape from the axe longer in the second game. it wouldn't matter if the games existed in a bubble but there's obviously gonna be people who are at least overlooking the other thread
maybe they do but it's not like it isn't a realistic and preventable scenario
Blargonaut
Banned
Neogaffen: Idolized
Everyone in this area would like to be you. You're the toast-of-the-town and are held up as a shining example of all that a person can be.
Everyone in this area would like to be you. You're the toast-of-the-town and are held up as a shining example of all that a person can be.
It will be the town players who will send you off, either because they accuse you of being a mafia playing dumb, or just a huge liability anyway
Blargonaut
Banned
It will be the town players who will send you off, either because they accuse you of being a mafia playing dumb, or just a huge liability anyway
I can confirm this (CzarTim et al. 2015)
johnnyquicknives
Member
I had said that I didn't think I'd have time to play (I've been moving city, hunting for a job, brother was getting married) but it's looking like things will be calm by the time the games kick off. I might not have quite as much free time as I did in previous games but I'll still be able to read and post most days (and I'll be jealous if the games kick off and I'm not involved!)
Archer would be my number 1 choice.
Archer would be my number 1 choice.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Regardless of how either side would react to such a player in that scenario, the fact remains that it's an additional piece of information that shouldn't exist to be analyzed or reacted to.
I feel the moderators for next round should also have some say over the taking part in two games idea as they also have the ability to cock up in regards to a players roll, seeing as they are privy to all games running.
I mean after Karks big blunder could any of us us trust him with this scenario? =P
I mean after Karks big blunder could any of us us trust him with this scenario? =P
I think for simplicity's sake it would be best to keep everyone restricted to one game. If we're gonna do it down the line, make it so that whoever does it has a few games under their belt and the moderators do as well.
Oh yeah, I missed that comment. Seriously, I hope I don't do anything so mind-bogglingly daft as that.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Don't listen to this scum Kark, you did the best you could.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
NOTHING BUT SCUM
I agree. I don't think that playing in two games at once will work well. It was hard enough for me to keep track of one game. Can't imagine how confusing it gets with two games. Especially if you have some player who are in both games.
As for my game. Planing is almost done. Hope Kark and MattyG can take a look at it for some final feedback.
Oh and btw. The Thing would probably be a great theme for a game.
RobotNinjaHornets
Banned
...this game literally is The Thing. How has noone thought of that up until now.
Do the infected know they're infected in the Thing?
They should. But they may not know who else is infected.
Should still be time to get you added. Crab will need to know what pronoun you prefer, i.e. male/female/other.
FTFY
One of the House on Haunted Hill scenarios is basically The Thing. One player is infected, and every time they share a room with someone, they randomly trade 1 of 2 tokens with the other player. Meanwhile, the good players are scrambling to create tests and antidotes before everyone turns.
This makes me realize a House on Haunted Hill game would be fun. Time to brainstorm!
Blargonaut
Banned
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
I can remember mafia games in sc2. Was the best damn thing in that terrible custom scene.
Awesome, I'm fine with male. Looking forward to playing
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
A miniatures wargame convention(Warmachine Weekend) a few years ago. After the tournaments wind down, it turns into a bunch of nerds sitting around, drinking, and playing games. Someone decided to start Werewolf around 11pm. I ended up playing until like 6am and completely slept through my next tournament.
When I described it to my wife, she said it was called mafia and they played it at a church camp every summer when she was a little girl.
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
I played Mafia once at a party years and years ago. My best friend turned out to be the Mafia, and he was amazing at it. No one ever suspected. Beyond that, I watched the episodes of Table Flip with One Night Ultimate Werewolf, and that got me really interested. Then I found the thread in OT.
Lord of Castamere
Member
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
Never even heard of it before this thread.
While we wait, might as well share how we all discovered Mafia (if you haven't already)?
My first Mafia-like experience was playing dozens of online custom games of Parasite in Warcraft III, then actual Mafia in Starcraft 2 Custom.
Starcraft Mafia for me lol
johnnyquicknives
Member
I think I first played mafia live like 8 years ago as part of a computer science society icebreaker. Eventually I found it and played it again over video on twitch through streamers like Ellohime and CohhCarnage (back when they still played), and then with some other people I got to know from doing that. At the same time I found and played some forum mafia, and when Town of Salem came out I sunk countless hours into raging at every idiot troll and leaver in that game.
Then I came here.
Edit: I may have also played a few of the SC2 map.
Then I came here.
Edit: I may have also played a few of the SC2 map.