Hmm.. Game is currently 30$ on psn..
To bite or not to bite..
Yea, that alternate reality steampunk shooter where the ruggedly handsome protagonist shoots his way out of every situation shouldn't be mentioned together with that other game.
Lol. Maybe I have been desensitised by almost every game having a sequel-bait ending nowadays.
More people need to come to grips that enjoyment of something doesn't mean that something is in fact good. That goes for anything not just games.
In fact, it's with games that people get the most defensive about it. With movies you will hear time and time again "man that movie is shit but I love it"
For some reason tho most of the times, with games it's "I love it so its awesome"
Edit: I didn't play the order, this is more if a general statement about several games
More people need to come to grips that enjoyment of something doesn't mean that something is in fact good. That goes for anything not just games.
In fact, it's with games that people get the most defensive about it. With movies you will hear time and time again "man that movie is shit but I love it"
For some reason tho most of the times, with games it's "I love it so its awesome"
Edit: I didn't play the order, this is more if a general statement about several games
Some people also need to come to grips that opinions about a video game are subjective and just because people shouting something is bad loudly doesn't make it actually bad. The Order obviously has flaws, but they are nowhere near the complete trash like descriptions people keep trying to lob at the game. With you admitting to not playing the game however, your original statement seems disingenuous now.
First, you compared them in terms of the ''Games Gaf likes to hate'' and not the the themes .Second, yes they aren't comparable at all. One is Super Linear game that is a barely a game, while the other, Gaf complained, has a bit too much game in it.
Third, one is critically acclaimed while the other one is slammed in reviews.
Fourth, one came from one of the best video game designers, Ken Levine, while the other one is a console debut from an unknown studio, relatively speaking.
Yes, those two should not even be mentioned in the same paragraph, let alone sentence.
Dude I said it was a general statement. And yes opinions are relative, but my point stands. Rarely do you hear "man that game is shit but I love it" like you do with movies. I wasn't attacking the game... like at all.
Is it?
It's showing $59.99 for me. Are you talking about the U.S. Store, or Canada?
I've just gone on the store as I was ready to purchase at that price.
Edit: Canadian PSN shows $69.99
It's not a bad game, but for $60 it didn't offer nearly enough content. The campaign can be beaten in 8 hours if you play at a medium pace and then that's it. Its a good game to rent, and now that the price is coming down it might be worth buying.
Gears of War its years ahead in gameplay design/campaign/scenario etc
The Order, in my opinion, was a great tech demo for what the RAD Engine 4 can do in PS4
I still believe that currently it is the best looking game released in the next generation by far
As a game though it has lots of bad design gameplay choices. For example to continuously have the user to stop the action to do a QTE and the stealth sections were the worst parts of the experience
Other issues I had with the game was bad AI design, the (only two) boss battles that were identical and the werewolf fights (the highlight of the game since its announcement trailer) that were really bad
I would still recommend a rent on anyone still interested on the game, just to admire its flawless and impressive technical side
I personally finished the game in an afternoon and it took me almost 7 hours in normal difficulty
On the other hand I also believe that The Order is a great entry point to Third Person Shooters for inexperienced/new gamers
Gears of War its years ahead in gameplay design/campaign/scenario etc
If someone finds the Order around 20 dollars/euro go for it, but don't spend more than this amount of money on it...
Also in eu Sony store The Order had its first sale (3 months after its release) and its 32 euro for plus members which means that the game didn't had great sales - i bet that it will soon be on ps plus games...
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015...nts-save-on-the-order-1886-portable-classics/
Oh my, you're upset. First of all, I didn't compare them in anything other than themes just to highlight the absurdity. Second, both of them are linear experiences and in every aspect just as much a game. Thirdly, since when should we factor in critical acclaimed in comparison? Should we consult metacritic before comparing any sort of media to eachother? Fourthly, Ken Levine has made a career out of making the same game with a different shine of paint for the last decade or two. I like that game a lot so I hope he continues to make it.
I still don't see any valid arguments for them not be compared in the same sentence.
The Order: 1886 was an excellent game and an 8.5/10 in my opinion. What's truly sad is that all the bad reviews mentioned how short the game is, that it's too linear, no multi-player, etc. but yet forgot to mention that it virtually had no bugs or glitches and can be played right out of the case. I guess nowadays if your game has bugs and glitches, you get an extra few points added to the score.
The comparison makes no sense. Bioshock Infinite is a critically acclaimed game that the overwhelming majority of gamers like (it came second place in its year's GOTY). The Order is one of the most poorly rated AAA games in recent years, and it's widely regarded as a mediocre game. They aren't both good games that a vocal minority of gamers complain about.
I think it's still my favourite game this year (and I've played The Witcher).
I must have been on a different "GAF" site then. The vast majority of posts I saw were critical of the game.
Maybe in |OT|. In most other threads people didn't have a nearly as good impression of the game.I thought generally the response from GAF was positive re: The Order?? I remember at launch feeling like a minority on here when I posted that I thought it was absolute garbage.
Poor or rich in this context is subjective. Mediocre is also subjective. Good or bad is also subjective. What isn't subjective is that any group of gamers who complain about any game is always a minority. Them being vocal about it is also not subjective.
There are several really good games that vocal parts of GAF love to hate. BioShock Infinite and Tomb Raider 2013 come to mind.
Order 1886 is another one of these games.
Oh please, your extreme over exaggeration is killing me. What exactly was wrong with the ending? Why do people need such absolute finality in stories? Use your imagination a bit.I felt like I got smashed over the head with a bag of hammers. The Order's ending should never be allowed to happen in anything outside of an episodic game.
Man, people comparing Bioshock Infinite to the Order...? Really now.
The scene where Booker was ejected towards the sky and arrived at Columbia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any scene the Order can conjure up in the entirety of its length.
Likewise, the walking/exploration alone before in Bioshock Infinite before all hell breaks loose (where you're forced to decide the fate of the interracial couple) was way, way superior than anything the Order attempted to conjure up "atmosphere."
Not to mention all the plasmids and how you can play around with them.......
Man, they're not even comparable, in my eyes anyways. Simply put, Bioshock Infinite is a "higher" game than the Order, both figuratively and literally.
The word Compare said:estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.
Hard to use your imagination when there were so many threads deliberately left hanging for a sequel. The only thing you managed to do was kill an accomplice to the actual bad guy while in the process raising more sequel-bait questions. I'd be more forgiving if there was some actual resolution with openings for more in the future like how Mass Effect did it, but this game was almost entirely setup for a sequel like Too Human and Halo 2 since the developers probably ran out of time.Oh please, your extreme over exaggeration is killing me. What exactly was wrong with the ending? Why do people need such absolute finality in stories? Use your imagination a bit.
Is there any info about how many copies have been sold? How many do you think to warrant a sequel?