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Giant Bomb Thread The Third: #TeamBrad
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feeble peanut
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The explanation is that articles Patrick writes (interviews, walking dead crap, feminist whatever) are given the same value as what people come to, and have come to, the site for the last few years: videos. There's days when all you see in the upcoming features box is a article written by Patrick. I have nothing against the guy but make more CONTENT, more VIDEOS. Even more videos with just Patrick like the spookin ones.
tl;dr seems like these days written articles are making up the loss of video content after the merger
The best jokes are. They're also based on the truth.
But that's not Patrick's fault. He was hired to do written articles, not star in videos.
And I loved the Walking Dead articles.
Cos this isnt an industry issue. its a couple of dumb ad people at a video game company issue. An article like this may hold a little more weight actually written by a woman or if Giantbomb actually had hired a woman to talk bout video games. This is a white guy in an office full of white guys writing bout the plight of the black man.
To be fair, he's in a whole hell of a lot of videos too.
I think all the problems with articles at Giant Bomb goes back to the fact that they need a damn editor. None of them seem particularly adept at editing articles. They are often awash with grammatical errors, factual errors, errors of judgement, and editorial comments in articles that would be better served being straight reporting.
I believe they have said that they just proofread each other's stuff before posting it. Too much stuff seems to get past that.
I believe they have said that they just proofread each other's stuff before posting it. Too much stuff seems to get past that.
Purple_Tentacle
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I don't disagree with you.
Dude could save a lot of heartache by taking his opinions out of the story. Save the commentary for Worth Reading and the podcast. The marketing of Dead Island is worthy of both reporting and discussion, but probably not at the same time from the same guy.
Purple_Tentacle
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They're his best stuff -- he takes himself out of the equation and reports straight from Telltale. He's much better when he's not following Alex's snarky, opinionated approach.
Hot Coldman
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Must be Brad. I hear those guys hate each other.
So THAT's why he's leaving?
terrdactycalsrock
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I havent read the article on the Dead Island statue, but I dont understand why a woman's opinion is necessarily more better or why every reaction should be based of a woman's point of view. Granted its a statue of the female form and who knows about the that than well a woman. Also, a woman can also bring to the table a first hand experience on the topic of what society thinks of women and how they should be portrayed. However, people are people and at the end of the day its our ability to think about things critically that makes an intelligent response. In the end I think it would have been wiser to have a round table type discussion with an odd number of men and women to talk about it. Rather than just assuming that the female perspective is the only right perspective
base shagohod
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This is my favorite GB meme.
Typographenia
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Patrick has clearance to post anything he wants without getting the okay from Jeff or someone else on staff? Dang.
That's exactly what everyone in that article was saying. The calls for censorship were so loud that I couldn't hear myself think.
I thought it was funny that for an article on sexism, he took the opinion of Elizabeth DeLoria, staff writer at Gameranx and cosplay photographer. Beside the fact that she photographs people who are personifying sexism in video games, she literally has nothing to say about the subject and has some strange tirade about the murder of a girl who is not even affiliated with video games.
It should really have been titled "Eight women, Seven responses and one big WTF."
It should really have been titled "Eight women, Seven responses and one big WTF."
SloaneRisette
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Yeah, reading back through it, really does surprise me. Anna Kipnis's was really the best response in my opinion.
She's cool
Marketing of a product is a huge part of how the industry's perceived. I work for a digital agency, we absolutely have to fully understand the temperature and sensitivities of an industry before we pitch campaigns.
The majority of the journalists in this industry are young, white males. So we should somehow exclude them from writing about stuff like this and put the onus only on the few minorities?
The article is almost entirely about reaching out to women to get their perspective. Did you even read it?
Are you attempting to troll?
Absolutely agree. I really don't like that every time this discussion is brought up, it's mostly just female writers covering the industry who are willing to speak up and often it can look very navel gaze-y or, at worst, attempting to make the story about themselves. Then again, it's probably not easy to get female developers to speak publicly and on the record about this stuff.
hearsaybear
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I just can't get over how terribly written every one of Patrick's "news stories" are. He should fit in nicely on kotaku.
How long a game is Too Human? There are a couple of guys at GB who haven't played that game, yeah? Vinny and Brad?
I ask because, well, once people can't buy that game anymore... that whole "we feel weird giving this game publicity" thing is out the window in terms of an Endurance Run...
I ask because, well, once people can't buy that game anymore... that whole "we feel weird giving this game publicity" thing is out the window in terms of an Endurance Run...
Oh, the ball coach thing is just a dumb joke I made. I don't know anything about their editorial process.
Haha what the fuck are you talking about. I don't like cosplay at all but I have no idea how you are coming to that conclusion.
He wanted opinions from women who are interesting/involed in gaming and she is?
Howlongtobeat.com says ~12 hours for just beating the game, and ~20 hours for 100%. I feel like that's a bit short for an endurance run, because they don't typically 100% the game and Deadly Premonition must've been 20 hours for them doing hardly any bonus stuff.
Do a Google Image Search of cosplay... how is this not sexism?
Typographenia
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Vinny said there were problems with the video and he was going to get it fixed and reuploaded asap.
You answered your own question
Nobody assumed that womens perspective is the only right one, that's you. Womens voices in the industry are a minority, go anywhere else to find a mans perspective. The amount of fuss that this article has generated proves there is a massive problem with how the gaming industry/gaming 'culture' treats women voicing their opinions.
Yeah....no. I know where you're trying to go with this, so I'll cut you off at the pass.
By your logic, the martha stewert catalog is sexist because it features women in tight sweaters.
If men were the target audience of Ms. Stewart's lovely catalog, then yes it would be.
Cosplaying on it's own is not sexist? Obviously some characters some cosplayers dress up as are problematic but cosplaying is not inherently sexist and then when you get the professional cosplayers who are hired by game companies/marketers and they become fleshy billboards, yeah that is also problematic.
google image searching cosplay doesn't prove anything? is fancy dress sexist?
Purple_Tentacle
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Exactly. How am I supposed to get off to it with their heads and arms still attached?
typically men don't buy womens clothes so why would a womans catalogue be targeted for men? Oh what the fuck are we talking about here
cosplayers aren't selling anything? it's a hobby and most of them enjoy getting together with other nerds and doing nerdy shit. i really don't know where you are coming from here. are beaches sexist because women wear less clothing while they are there?
Gasp!
What if it's targeted towards lesbians? Can it be sexist then? Did I just blow your mind?
And again, that's like saying Men and young boys couldn't be the target of the JC Penny or Macy's catalogs even though there are robust sections filled with nothing but lovely women in lingerie.
A woman wearing something skimpy does not promote sexism. The irrational endgame of that train of thought is that all women must wear burkas because men cannot be trusted to uphold their own self control. Let's steer away from that train of though; it doesn't flatter anyone.
Purple_Tentacle
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Wait, are you telling me these women make a choice to dress themselves up as characters?
Oh shit, by your logic these ladies are being sexist against themselves. I hope someone takes that choice away. Or even better, glorifies the sexual aspect without their consent!
Fried Food
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who is it? I need to read some good comment manifesto
Iamwolfthing
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I think he's talking about Branthog. That dude can write a lot.
Lord_Nergal
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Man, sometimes I'm glad I have ADD and always quit writing a diatribe against idiots in comments sections.
Hire me!
If all comments on articles are written by idiots, and you're writing a comment on an article...then...oh god...
Lord_Nergal
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What if the entire marketing team at Deep Silver consists of women. Suddenly the appendageless torso bust is empowering!
partyphone
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so I've been wondering. a tiny little bikini top isn't going to stay nicely attached to a body that went through that much trauma. which means someone put it on post mortem.
what's up with that?
what's up with that?
EmCeeGramr
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this reminds me of a pc gamer (?) article where some guy got scared by doom 3 because a female corpse in a morgue had underwear on, and the writer was convinced that demons had put them on it for some insidious reason
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