Turk1993
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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
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I don't trust anything bruh, its downgrade season.
bender
What time is it?
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GTA 6 and Wolverine I believe are 2025 titles
Next year for graphic whores we have:
- Space Marine II
- Ragnarok DLC (Miles Morales size)
- Hellblade 2
Next year will be the best year of the gen for ANNOUNCEMENTS/Trailers
We'll see a GTA6 trailer that will be the biggest announcement in the history of entertainment
We'll see what SP game ND is working on
We should see what Bluepoint is cooking
Perfect Dark should be ready to show
Maybe Cory Barlog is ready to reveal their new IP
Ghosts of Tsushima 2 announcement
etc, etc.
None of these are out of the question and at least 3 of them are guaranteed
Next year for graphic whores we have:
- Space Marine II
- Ragnarok DLC (Miles Morales size)
- Hellblade 2
Next year will be the best year of the gen for ANNOUNCEMENTS/Trailers
We'll see a GTA6 trailer that will be the biggest announcement in the history of entertainment
We'll see what SP game ND is working on
We should see what Bluepoint is cooking
Perfect Dark should be ready to show
Maybe Cory Barlog is ready to reveal their new IP
Ghosts of Tsushima 2 announcement
etc, etc.
None of these are out of the question and at least 3 of them are guaranteed
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miklonus
Member
I hope this game pushes it to the next level, but like Turk said, downgrading could be a real thing.
Shit, it is...
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Building locations and actual buildings havent been changed, but the textures have received an upgrade. A generational one? no. But a big lift nonetheless. Again, the comparison below is from Spiderman PS5 which itself received some small texture upgrades on buildings.
Why is your Spider-Man 1 shot so underexposed and desaturated?
If you make the exposure/saturation a closer match, the gap isn't anything particularly impressive IMO:
Lethal01
Member
Can we acknowledge the game didn't come anywhere close now (ofcourse it didn't, the trailer was CGI, it was unfair to compare the game to it in the first play)
Anyway i got no hesitations about call Spiderman 2 Next gen, but this generation is just not coming close to mid level cgi like we see for these game trailers.
Balducci30
Member
Wow that actually looks great wtf
Best looking game of the gen coming next year
PeteBull
Member
Thats pc preview footage running on 4090 in 1440p30fps lol, expect console footage to look at least 3x worse;P
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Balducci30
Member
How the fuck does a warhammer game look like this and Sony/Microsoft spending 200 mil on their AAA titles can’t come close - these consoles can’t be that outdated. This is the sort of generational leap I expected. Maybe they shoulda just waited till 2023 to come out with a new console
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
no idea. thats how the game looked on my tv. maybe hdr capture messed it up.Why is your Spider-Man 1 shot so underexposed and desaturated?
If you make the exposure/saturation a closer match, the gap isn't anything particularly impressive IMO:
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah no. it will be last gen as fuck just like ragnorak.
You will most likely play as the little shit anyway. dated gameplay. dated level design. loading corridors. thanks but no thanks.
Now if they let us play as Thor and fly around the map at fast speeds like in Spiderman 2 then sure. But they dont have the vision or ambition to make something like that for the DLC. it will be a quick and dirty cash grab like Horizon BS.
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Schmendrick
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then you haven`t watched it on a big screen.
I was very impressed until I did.
In reality most of the level and asset geometry and quality is nothing to speak about, same goes for the enemy and character models which vary widely in quality. The lighting looks rather basic too in most shots. The very busy scene setting with all the background animations is masking it, but the moment you shift your attention to the details the AA budget becomes very apparent.
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Lethal01
Member
I didn't want to have to spend several pages proving this again, but yes, it's a great looking game, with the same old graphical shortcomings
its the best and its not even close (and this is with shadow quality being mistakenly set to medium).
You're comparing a gamey looking character to something that can actually pass for real life at split second glance.
Dude its not just about detail its about the entire rendering, its about the skin and how close to physically based the rendering is and how its reaction to light, its also about how close to physical based the materials are and how they react to light. same goes for the hair, clothes, etc. If one thing is severely off, the whole thing falls apart.
If Remedy had used Horizon 2's character rendering and materials in this game, the game would look 10x worse.
How is it that you don't understand that?
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Yeah no... the recent trailer actually looked bad, like a Vaseline blurry mess. Very disappointing.
All the recent stuff they put out is cringe. I completely lost all fate in them.
Also disappointed but expected of Avatar, Its Ubisoft's patented three stages of downgrade.
Outlaws will get the same ubisoft downgrade treatment. It will be epic and shocking.
Why is your Spider-Man 1 shot so underexposed and desaturated?
If you make the exposure/saturation a closer match, the gap isn't anything particularly impressive IMO:
This is what I have been saying to
SlimySnake
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ChiefDada
While the game's lighting and specular reflection has been improved (obviously).
The change in textures (much more grungier), the differences in materials applied to building and the difference in post process is responsible for more than 60% of "omg it looks better." The rest is slight improvement of trees, lighting and specular reflection.
But its not some huge gap. If you applied the same textures and materials to the buildings in SM1, things will look even closer than the comparison above.
Most of the difference you see in the buildings is simply because it has a different texture and material.
Again the lighting and specular reflection is CLEARLY better (no argument on that)
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Masterofchapter
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Outlaws, ac red
sendit
Member
Also Splinter Cell Remake and first peaks at Max Payne Remake.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i dont think its a generational gap but its a huge gap like Horizon ZD to HFW. they have done a great job updating the lighting, the reflections, the trees, water rendering, hair rendering, npc count/variety and traffic density, and a decent or rather ok job updating the building assets and some character models.This is what I have been saying to
While the game's lighting and specular reflection has been improved (obviously).
The change in textures (much more grungier), the differences in materials applied to building and the difference in post process is responsible for more than 60% of "omg it looks better." The rest is slight improvement of trees, lighting and specular reflection.
But its not some huge gap. If you applied the same textures and materials to the buildings in SM1, things will look even closer than the comparison above.
Most of the difference you see in the buildings is simply because it has a different texture and material.
Again the lighting and specular reflection is CLEARLY better (no argument on that)
If you go back to my original post, i was replying to Turk when he said that 95% of the buildings are the same. My entire point was that while the buildings are the same, the building textures were updated so you and I are in agreement there. one of the reasons why the game looks so much better than the first is due to the buildings being updated.
Compare this to other sequels like GOW Ragnorak, Division 2, and RE4 (from Village or RE3) and it becomes clear that this is indeed a HFW caliber upgrade. A huge one.
Looking at this PC gameplay the game is definitely next gen when it comes to foliage density and lighting. Draw distance, PS4 level pop-in and character models leave a lot to be desired.
Edit: Indirect lighting is weak as well, a huge contrast to when the game is lit directly. The game is a mixed bag visually. I'd rate the visuals as 6.5/10 on next gen scale.
Edit: Indirect lighting is weak as well, a huge contrast to when the game is lit directly. The game is a mixed bag visually. I'd rate the visuals as 6.5/10 on next gen scale.
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rhodesianshepard
Banned
Death Stranding 2. First use of the Decima engine developed from the ground up on PS5
GymWolf
Gold Member
Until i can directly play the game i'm gonna trust the pics and close up i saw of the characters and they are not the best.its the best and its not even close (and this is with shadow quality being mistakenly set to medium).
You're comparing a gamey looking character to something that can actually pass for real life at split second glance.
Dude its not just about detail its about the entire rendering, its about the skin and how close to physically based the rendering is and how its reaction to light, its also about how close to physical based the materials are and how they react to light. same goes for the hair, clothes, etc. If one thing is severely off, the whole thing falls apart.
If Remedy had used Horizon 2's character rendering and materials in this game, the game would look 10x worse.
How is it that you don't understand that?
They are in the ballpark with the best for sure (but only the main characters)
Her face looks too clean, like she has a wax mask, i don't like that type of skin rendering, maybe they simulate heavy make up, but the final result sure as hell is not the best in the market.
And a thing that horizon does better than any game, is having a similar overall quality for all the npcs, and i saw pics of secondary\tertiary characters and they don't look that hot, you may only care about main protagonist but other people like having similar average quality for npcs and protagonists, especially in a small game with a small cast like aw2.
Wtf is this shit?
Another wax monstruosity.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
GymWolf
Gold Member
I'm honestly more impressed by robocop than sp2, one is a sony triple A, the other is a cheap AA game, they should not be even in the same phrase.Game is amazing and indeed it can look very, very good!
Also, muahahahahahah, best characters my ass, what the fuck happened to sam lake face?
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Insane Metal
Member
What game is that, Gym?
GymWolf
Gold Member
Robocop rogue city maxed out on pc.
This is the first game that make ue5 looks good from a "helping small dev achieving big boy results" point of view.
If a small studio can have these results, imagine what sony or M could do.
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mrMUR_96
Member
Damn that's looks solid, is this console or pc?Some low quality phone pics, the game straight up has more clear reflection than sp2
Luipadre
Gold Member
New trailer at TGA next month, cant fucking wait. Hopefully with gameplay clips too
GymWolf
Gold Member
Pc but low res pics because i use my phone.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Schmendrick
Member
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Because i'm lazy and i don't want any iq improvement in my pics, that is how the game actually look live.
Better watch my pics and being surprised when you actually play the game than expecting something that doesn't exist.
Schmendrick
Member
Uhm... pressing a single button or button combination seems way lazier than reaching for your phone, unlocking the camera and then taking a picture, cropping the picture etc. Also screenshots are just that, screenshots, there is no innate IQ enhancement.
All you are adding to the picture are the artefacts of your camera and your monitor settings.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
Depends on the photomode, i'm not familiar with all the options available (reading your link as we speak) to take pics but some of them add iq improvements and i don't like that ( if i have a choice and i can personally take pics from a game i'm playing)
I don't have gf experience and i have xzbox bar turned off and i don't like to have overlays or third party apps opened when i play, i heard too many stories online about these apps being in conflict with some games and shit, i don't wanna deal with any of that.
Maybe i'm gonna try the steam method but i like i said, i don't like having overlays turned on.
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ckstine
Member
After beating robocop last night, and alan wake 2 a few days ago, I think I'll say that Alan Wake 2 probably wins. Robocop can look great at times, but misses out on the true realism of Wake because it goes for a more neon and saturated 80's look. Asset quality in Wake is also probably better, with insane textures and geo/poly counts. Robocop is probably better looking aesthetically, but Alan Wake 2 is the best for true photorealism now, and it'll probably be that way for quite some time. I feel like we have the next rdr2 on our hands with this, in terms of it being a game we will keep coming back to and saying it's king for years to come, and I'm quite alright with that fact.
Lethal01
Member
windowskey + printscreen saves screenshots inside your windows picture folder, it's really easy.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
AW2 wont even launch for me because of MSI Afterburner lol. Apparently Epic Game store couldnt validate my copy of the game even though i was launching from their launcher. hilarious.
Dude she looks phenomenal in the game. Not wax-ish at all.Until i can directly play the game i'm gonna trust the pics and close up i saw of the characters and they are not the best.
They are in the ballpark with the best for sure (but only the main characters)
Her face looks too clean, like she has a wax mask, i don't like that type of skin rendering, maybe they simulate heavy make up, but the final result sure as hell is not the best in the market.
And a thing that horizon does better than any game, is having a similar overall quality for all the npcs, and i saw pics of secondary\tertiary characters and they don't look that hot, you may only care about main protagonist but other people like having similar average quality for npcs and protagonists, especially in a small game with a small cast like aw2.
Wtf is this shit?
Another wax monstruosity.
Schmendrick
Member
wait wait wait, no one is talking about photomodes. We´re talking about basic screenshots you can take at any time at the press of a button, 3rd party so to speak, without having to rely on a specifically implemented photomode in the game. Quite the contrary, because photomodes often times produce results that look way better than the actual games.
this for example is probably the easiest method, doesn`t require any kind of overlays and does absolutely nothing to the picture.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
This is first UE5 game I'm impressed with.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I use GeForce overlay because it gives me the most control over video quality. I do 1440p 60 fps because they look way better than 1080p captures and are much smaller than the 4k captures. I also dont notice much performance degradation when using it. MSI Afterburner is also fine for screenshots and lets you customize which keys take pics. But i always forget my bindings so I just do a quick Alt+F1 and let GeForce take care of the rest.
I do wish they started utilizing the share button on the dualsense. lots of games have native dualsense support now. maybe geforce should too.
I do wish they started utilizing the share button on the dualsense. lots of games have native dualsense support now. maybe geforce should too.
GymWolf
Gold Member
And yet, many people in the aw2 best graphic of 2023 topic noticed that characters have some problems or are not the best in the business.
Until i have my hands on the game i'm gonna trust what i saw with my own eyes.
You want to defend the waitress aswell or we can at least agree that she look awful?
Just hit Print Screen and load up paint and hit ctrl+v save done.