You'd be surprised. "near jaggy less" visuals. omfg this is on 360? looks like a next gen tech demo!
and round pipes
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Halo 4 - Media blow out
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You'd be surprised. "near jaggy less" visuals. omfg this is on 360? looks like a next gen tech demo!
and round pipes
higherARC05
Banned
Yea "near jaggy less". Keyword "near". You people need to read better. You may be in the 1% that may not see it but HALO 4 looks like it shouldn't be possible on the console. Don't need to qoute the countless people who played it that have claimed it themselves. November 6th will be glorious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15EWuI9VF4&feature=youtu.be
At 16:25 he just stops and looks at the graphics and talk about it as he was in awe. So good. :_)
you were referring to the bullshots posted all over this thread, so no, dont backpedal. and if by near jaggy less you did mean it still has visible aliasing, well i guess theres a shit ton of console games that now by your definition have "near jaggyless" gwaphix.
higherARC05
Banned
What are you talking about? I have not said anything about any screenshots of those resolutions being the game itself. I always talk about the actual graphics. Not resolution because if that is what you are trying to grab to make a complain about then you are clearly a fool. Expecting a 4k res on a console game? You live under a rock?
And near jaggy less means it is clean and barely any jaggies to be seen. As you can see in ANY gameplay videos. To nit pick some random shimering from subpixels is doing nothing in your cause. And no, not many console games have near jaggy less IQ. God of war 3 has near jaggy less IQ. That is what HALO 4 is.
It's plain and simple. The game has been played by a lot of people in the industry. They all claim it to be one of the best looking games on consoles period. Nothing will change that.
TUROK
Member
Lol.
Halo 4 is nowhere near "near jaggyless." FXAA techniques, especially ones on consoles, can only anti-alias so much. Any decent direct feed video shows aliasing everywhere.
Halo 4 looks awesome, but you are drinking the fanboy kool-aid.
GoW 3's MLAA takes up 20ms over 5 SPU's. Halo 4's FXAA is not going to be anywhere near that quality.
flamingotripod
Member
Is the game in 60 fps?
Understatement of the year. Tempted to go through his post history and extract some gems.
30 FPS target unless I'm mistaken.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yup.
You are not helping with this.
Monocle
Member
That just confirms those specific models don't appear in the campaign. His language leaves open the possibility for wacky Promethean/Flood hybrids and naughty tentacles.
https://forums.halo.xbox.com//yaf_postsm814552_The-Flood-s-return.aspx#post814552Frankie said:
50/50 chance that the link won't work until after you refresh it a dozen times.
Flood could still show up somewhere though but not as an enemy that you'll fight.
Gabotron ES
Member
Stop already with the graphics talk...
You mean live action? There is a whole web series coming.
Monocle
Member
Oh, right, now that you mention it, I have seen that quote before.
Hey. Hey! Maybe the Flood help us this time, like that one part of The Covenant in Halo 3.
I don't really expect to see the Flood as an active force in Halo 4.
Flooded Master Chief. At one point you have to become evil, to destroy the evil!
Ah not live action. Just a regular story trailer for the campaign.
EDIT: http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/upkahz/halo-3-e3-2007-trailer-hd
Need something like this =D
I will never be able to look at the model and not seeing it smiley at me.
uugh
Doesn't seem to be the exact same thing. They have those head mounted cameras pointing at their faces, going by the behind the scenes stuff shown.
higherARC05
Banned
Being 20ms does not mean its better then anything less. The main reason its good is because the camera is fixed which help to hide any artifacts.
Ahain if you cant show me where the game show jaggies everywhere like you say then you are moot.
Youre pretty sad. Go ahead
This is all you can say? Okay I see these three kiddies are on a vendetta.
You mad bro
Yeah but were the trade-offs worth it? I guess we'll see when we'll play Halo 4 to completion and see what the game looks like, how it runs and if the scale of the previous games is still there.
Keep in mind that a bigger trade off also doesn't always mean a better decision.
Well you're also drinking the Bungie-defense kool-aid.
It's funny because you're making fun of him for the near jaggy-less comments and you were the first that commented on the specular aliasing and now how every video shows "aliasing everywhere" while at the same time you defend Reach in every chance which had undoubtedly some of the worst IQ on the consoles.
Frank played a part of the third level live @ Europgames Expo. The video is still being processed, should be up soon.
And for sanity, don't stick around for the Q&A, you'll blow your brains out
I think its even more impressive graphically than those titles for the simple fact that there will be 4 player campaign co-op. Those titles you mentioned are strictly linear, single player games without sandbox areas with vehicles. Put all that together in Halo 4 and you've got one impressive package.
But the banshee sounds like a monster now!
The hum while flying? Sure.
The firing? It sounds mean... All the other banshees (halo 1-reach) sounded like Star Wars rifles in automatic fire
Lol
People who are pointing out the aliasing aren't expecting 16xAA or 4K resolutions. Like me, they are probably mentioning it because some people want to act like the game is as clean as the bullshots.
Unfortunately I'm hardly surprised with anything at gaf anymore. =P
People here tend to go off the deep end (to both extremes) when it comes to exclusives.
If Halo CEA is anything to go by, Halo 4 will be very clean for a console game, but it won't be as clean as GoW3.
Have no issue with your opinion but I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that it's not even on par with these other said games.
Typical bone structure model, similar to Beyond. Though I wouldn't know how the tech compares in the two game.
I know your comment wasn't for me but really, you don't think claims that the game looks like it shouldn't be possible on consoles are just a little bit outrageous?
They look so freaking badass and scary. I was so freaking excited about the Flood redesign and them being included in MP that I sent this pic to a friend who is on a media blackout of sorts. His reply, "Aw! They looks so happy!"
Cannot fucking unsee. I've tried. Now I only see them smiling.
Garrett 2U
Member
There is some Halo 4 campaign footage of the third level.
There are very few 'spoilers' in it. Mostly all of them have been seen in other media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JylkzGSfnn4#t=17m30s
Halo CEA upgraded graphics engine was not developed by 343 Industries, but rather by Saber Interactive.
There are very few 'spoilers' in it. Mostly all of them have been seen in other media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JylkzGSfnn4#t=17m30s
Halo CEA upgraded graphics engine was not developed by 343 Industries, but rather by Saber Interactive.
And... there was nothing wrong with that. I thought Bungie nailed the type of sound with the plasma rifle in Reach (some bass undertone combined with the higher frequency tones). As it is now, the plasma fire is too crackly for my taste (closer to a conventional gunpowder crack www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmB-ME8i2bA#t=50s).
Kage simply gave an example on how FXAA works with Halo's art style...CEA had really good IQ and that run at 1152*720 IIRC.
I agree that we don't know much about the FXAA implementation on Halo 4 but if CEA is an indication things are gonna be decent this time around as far as IQ goes.
higherARC05
Banned
Your opinion. If you dont think so then so be it. Just stop going on a crusade to go after people who do.
Yeah I know, but I'm sure there was some collaboration between 343i and Saber. Who knows if the tweet we saw about 343i working on FXAA wasn't for Halo CEA?
Besides, typical jaggies from the geometry doesn't look to be the problem in Halo 4, it's the specular aliasing that's the real issue and FXAA doesn't do anything to cover that up.
Depending on the implementation, it should handle shader aliasing to some extent (reduces contrasting pixels).
Baconsammy
Banned
Thanks for the link to the new gameplay video. Banshee dogfighting is something I loved about past games. This looks awesome.
huh, did not know that, figured PPAA wouldn't have any effect. Thanks.
Rofl yes, they chose one that used more GPU cycles than FXAA just for the hell of it.
higherARC05
Banned
Killzone 3 uses mlaa n does not look as clean as gow3. Its the same but cause kz3 actially has a movable camera you can see its not better then fxaa.
TUROK
Member
What does one have to do with the other? Do I talk about how clean Halo Reach looks? Do I say the jaggies aren't that bad? No.
Just like FXAA, MLAA has a lot of problems with subpixel aliasing, and Killzone 3's art style consists of a lot of railings, pipes, and thin objects. As you get far away enough from them, they'll start to alias.