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Halo Xbox One "Legitimate", No Longer A Trilogy, Now A Saga
- Thread starter Darkmakaimura
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Yep; I am doing that with AC: Black Flag..first one I refuse to play.
They were talking about 4,5,and 6 being a trilogy, like Star Wars. That's no longer the case.
It's only "milking" when it's a series they don't personally like or the series in question or if it's on a console they don't like etc, etc.
Monocle
Member
Halo CE's barely edges it out for me, but yeah, ODST's campaign is absolutely outstanding.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
I second this.
The overall story arc and characters in the Gears' series was a high cut above what Halo offers. Played all of them and loved them, and they even did something different and interesting with Judgment when it was looked at as being unnecessary by a lot of gamers.
take a rest? It was like 5 years from chief in h3 and h4.
Halo CE's campaign is decent but way too repetitive. The amount of times I have to re-trace my footsteps in those damn corridors is unreal.
PanicFreak
Member
Yeah I know. What I meant was that I don't want to step into Master Chief's visor every year.
I still can't decide whether I like ODST or Reach's soundtrack more. ODST's works well on its own, but I love the sense of desperate futility that Reach portrays really well.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
As long as we get ODST 2 (starring Fillion) and Wars 2 eventually I'm good.
not to mention it was the highest one on that list that wasn't multiplat.
Um we said this verbatim about a year ago, since the story also spans Spartan Ops and other media.
But please, carry on.
shinobi602
Member
This is actually when I plan on getting an Xbox One. PS4 this year, next year getting the console along with Halo 5. Going to be a great day.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Actually read my post, did I say that it was good? All I did was imply that it's better than 4's which took everything bad about Reach and multiplied it x10
I said this earlier, dude. It literally says 'saga' on the back of the box.
From what I understand they already backtracked on it with the recent weapon rebalance update. Which is good, because randomized weapon spawns are dumb.
that's true, you guys have always called it the reclaimer saga.
flyingmonkeywhoa
Banned
Ugh...after Halo 4 my only interest in this series is the single player. I thought Halo 4's single player was amazing but the multiplayer was just god awful.
If this is implying a yearly release I am not interested.
343i is a big studio and I know they were created to churn out more Halo games but surely they can take a break and do something else so the devs don't get bored. I want the same for Guerilla games.
If this is implying a yearly release I am not interested.
343i is a big studio and I know they were created to churn out more Halo games but surely they can take a break and do something else so the devs don't get bored. I want the same for Guerilla games.
But weren't their mentions of the reclaimer trilogy? Or was that something the press/fans made up?
Monocle
Member
I prefer ODST's for sure. Still sounds like classic Halo, but tinged with jazz and shaded down from the sweeping highs of previous soundtracks. I just love how the somber tone captures the loneliness of the nighttime hub world. Also the beginning part of Finale hits me right in the feels. It's like spring rain in musical form. So good.
Which it isn't. Not even close.
I always thought they called it reclaimer saga, but in that same note they talk about how 4, 5, 6 are I'm that saga.
TheVoidDragon
Member
I still like Halo, but Halo 4 did pretty much everything wrong to me. Many things in Halo 4 felt completely out of place with how things were before, and they new stuff was worse. For example all the new UNSC stuff was the complete opposite of their previous style which had been mostly sharp edges and flat sections on their vehicles and weapons - instead it had been replaced with rounded edges and curves (which was what the Covenant style was). Compare the two pelicans and you'll see. Then there was stuff like Forerunner architecture looking completely different with neon red lines everwhere and similar things.
The retcons are annoying as well. Things like the MJOLNIR Mark VI being retconned to always look how Chiefs armour does now (or at least very similar) and the Forward unto Dawn/Charon-class Frigates being completely changed.
No one really seemed to care or be surprised they found the Chief, either. Even the soundtrack was completely unmemorable, to me at least - there were many tracks in the previous games that i love but i can't remember any from Halo 4 at all.
Hopefully this new saga will fix things, although for some things it seems like it's too late to change them. I'll still buy the new Halo games and play them but i don't think they will be as good as the ones made by Bungie.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Gears story was a high cut above Halo? I don't agree..not at all and I enjoyed them both.
We definitely did, several months before the game came out (and there's still a three story arc which has a beginning, a middle and an end) but the actual "saga" was also in Spartan Ops and Terminals too (Terminal story being off-disc is a legitimate complaint we won't have to worry about next-gen) , so the numbering was misleading and we changed the phrasing a long time before the game launched. Phil is simply rephrasing that, not announcing something.
Randolph Freelander
Member
I should note that I have long been one that has decried what I find to be an overemphasis on vehicular combat sequences in the series. Yeah, tooling around in the warthog was fun in Halo 1. In Halo 2, they went nuts with the amount of time the game was geared to being in a ghost or tank or banshee or the gunner position in a hog, and it's been the same ever since, I don't like it.
Just to get ahead of it, the common retort to my criticism has been "just play on foot." And my common response to that is "it doesn't seem like it would be fun to go against the obvious intent of the level, but I might try it should I ever decide to play those games again."
Consider yourself up to speed and now the "stupid mech" remark should be in proper context. I am simply conditioned to loathe most vehicle sequences, particularly any new vehicle.
Did in reverse the Reach numbers go up again? Because I wouldn't be surprised if people just had enough of halo for a while
Miles Quaritch
Member
ODST is easily the best campaign of any Halo title to date. We need a new one. WE DEMAND IT!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Frank, just make those terminals non-existent. Put all that story in the game. Halo 4 would have benefited from it immensely. Just putting videos in-game but still hidden in terminals wouldn't have helped.
Simply Sami
Member
After Halo 3, ODST was the best Halo game this generation.
Halo 4 was just terrible.
Halo 4 was just terrible.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Holy shit it went belo 50k, nearly 25k. Damn, MW2 on PS3 was like 20k a month ago.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Seems like he was giving an opinion, no?
True, Halo 3 is the highest point of the series.
Frank, just make those terminals non-existent. Put all that story in the game. Halo 4 would have benefited from it immensely. Just putting videos in-game but still hidden in terminals wouldn't have helped.
Oh yes. if you have cool story/lore don#t hie it somewhere. It's dumb.
Monocle
Member
Yeah, I can't relate to that view at all. Halo's story is great, but you have to dig into the subtle stuff Bungie was so good at, as well as the expanded fiction (it's really quite good), to really appreciate it.
I guess I'll clarify: feel like things have been stagnating or running downhill since 2 (1 for mission design, 2 for story inclusion), though I did find Reach to have elements of its multiplayer that I loved quite a bit. It's complicated.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Seems like I gave an opinion first, no? The fact of the matter is that there has been a mass exodus from Halo 4's multiplayer that didn't occur in Reach. That leads me to believe most people like it less.
shinobi602
Member
Spot on.
I don't know about Halo 4, but in previous Halos nearly all vehicle levels were great on foot too. Definitely more challenging, but usually there are enough anti-vehicle weapons lying around to take down enemies, plus it mixes things up nicely.
This particular quote doesn't really mean much, but I'm almost positive Halo will be an annual franchise next gen. How many developers contributed to Halo 4? Wouldn't be surprised to see them get their own game.
I wouldn't call Halo 4 terrible, but the vast departure from previous entries (i.e borrowing major mechanics from other shooters that simply do not work in Halo) without adding anything unique makes it a game that I can't describe as great.
I wouldn't call Halo 4 terrible, but the vast departure from previous entries (i.e borrowing major mechanics from other shooters that simply do not work in Halo) without adding anything unique makes it a game that I can't describe as great.
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