Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Loved Ryse. Very underrated game.
Hope MS buys the IP and gets another studio on it.
Hope MS buys the IP and gets another studio on it.
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Kotaku: Crytek Not Paying Staff On Time, Ryse Sequel Dropped
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Ryse with deeper combat mechanics, add some rpg elemrents in it, a dash of loot collecting and it would be much better. The initial showing of the game put people off but the actual game was not that bad. A little simplified perhaps but what hack n slash game is not?
MS needs to buy the IP and get a Japanese developer on it like FromSoft haha.
MS needs to buy the IP and get a Japanese developer on it like FromSoft haha.
Fleshfeast
Member
The multiplayer has leveling and gear mechanics that make it surprisingly compelling. Add in some more weapon types and I think it could be a prety great package overall. Crytek was going after the F2P market and says they've completed the transition. Instead of making the generic CoD clone that Warface is, they could have made something along the lines of Warframe, but in the Ryse setting.
shacklesmcgee
Member
nvm
Glorified G
Member
Sucks for the employees but it's a shame they decided to put their resources towards such a mediocre IP in the first place.
Launch title. It's the only explanation.
Launch title. It's the only explanation.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Providing "hah you deserve it" comments fueled by such a fanboy-level reasoning is embarrassing, you know.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Publishers, especially platform holders, put resources toward mediocre IPs all the time, for various reasons. Ryse was kind of like Killzone in that respect, a decent game that was a technical showpiece first and foremost.
Still, it was an interesting IP. Not only is the ancient Rome underused in recent games, but the underlying concept - Project Kingdoms - held a lot of promise. I would have loved a sequel focusing on Temujin's Mongol Empire, for instance, or native people of both Americas, the early days of the Zulu Kingdom and so on. And one day maybe we could have even gotten a persistent online third person action game encompassing global conquests over a certain period of the human history.
But yeah, I guess Microsoft does't actually need the Ryse IP for that, although I'm sure they'd love to use the already established name.
Well for me the Roman setting was the thing that interested me. I love that period, and we don't get enough games that use it. Just endless fantasy medieval europe games.
Jimmyfenix
Member
What are the chances that homefront 2 gets cancelled?
McKeeverFever
Banned
Damn those staff dinners must have been from a michelin star restaurant. Thats what happens when they waste their gaming budget on crunch dinners 
Team Top Hat
Banned
If people aren't being paid, I wouldn't be an employee after the first paycheck was missed. Why would someone still want to work there?
darkwing-buck
Member
Sad to see Free Radical be in the middle of all this.
It would be like THQ in a way. Publishers would wait for them to go bankrupt, sell off the IP's and lay off all employees. Then publishers become like vultures picking at wht they want (talent, IP's and studios) at a discounted price.
Because there is always a hope you'll get all the paycheques back in a lump sum and it's hard to quit your job and go looking for a new one. You don't always know if missing a payday was a one time thing or if it will reoccur.
1)hope (buyout, injection, etc)
2)do not have another job to go to yet in field
3)don't want to let coworkers (kind of family) down
Interceptor
Banned
Matches with something a friend at crytek told me in March: A new game project was canceled in the middle of the recruiting process and Ryse 2 never even began development since Microsoft demanded platform exklusivety of the whole franchise - which crytek obviously didn't agree with.
Any good hack'n slash.
If you go too soon and it was a one time thing chance is you wont get hired anywhere anymore because youre known for leaving ship early.
If you wait too long and shit hits the fan you loose a lot of money.
AusRoachman
Member
Would love a ryse 2 , I just hope they don't give it to ninja theory or something and totally screw it up.
Either way we need more games set in Rome , still the best looking xbox one game IMO .
Either way we need more games set in Rome , still the best looking xbox one game IMO .
Thankees!
Man, I pity the poor grunts. Hope they find employment elsewhere, Crytek sounds like some sort of Dilbertesque hell on earth.
Steverulez
Member
Why would they go with Microsoft as publisher in the first place if they didn't want to be exclusive? I find that hard to believe...
Our sources suggest MS wanted to own the IP, seems much more likely that was the issue than it being exclusive to Xbox One
Thanks Obama!
Anyways, have to give credit to Kotaku for this kind of reporting. I'm not a fan of the site as a whole, but this is the kind of journalism we need more of.
pickle tooth
Banned
Well this sucks. I was looking forward to a Ryse 2.
Crytek's indifference towards DD is baffling.
- No Crysis 3: Maximum Edition on Steam (I'm assuming this is possible due to the reappearance of Crysis 2 on Steam as an all-inclusive Maximum Edition)
- Second Sight, which has become a prized curio in the Steam trading scene, isn't available anywhere despite rights reverting back to Crytek almost two years ago
- Homefront is no longer available anywhere despite Crytek buying the IP and the original game itself from THQ almost 18 months ago
I have zero clue, sorry. A couple of people told me the game wasn't in good shape, but this is game development: big games don't really seem to take proper shape until they're a few months out.
Obviously it's worrying if all the developers are leaving the company, but like I said before, anything could happen.
Other people have addressed this well, but yeah, lots of reasons: loyalty, friendship, belief that things will change, inability to just leave and immediately find new employment, contractual issues (some people told me they had to give two months notice before leaving), etc.
universalmind
Member
Maybe they shoulda done decent Crysis sequels.
Interceptor
Banned
I don't know. Seems like MS supported them with the first Ryse to have a good exclusive launch game but at the same time they demanded exclusivity for all future sequels. This might have been a good deal for crytek at the time development for the first Ryse began but things have changed significantly since then. All the controversies and disappointing sales of the xbone may have convinced yerli it's not worth the risk. He wanted to transform crytek into a f2p company either way. Which was always a damn risky plan.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It will probably be bought as a whole (trademark, current development and Crytek UK) rather than be cancelled. I've just checked some gameplay footage out, and while I'm sceptical of Crytek as a whole, it does look extremely impressive. I'm sure there are several publishers who would want an open world FPS like this, and Deep Silver would be my first choice who have been expanding pretty rapidly with some smart decisions in the last few years.
Yeah; the likelihood is that other companies will wait for Crytek for go bankrupt and cherry pick the pieces they want. Crytek as a whole probably isn't a good investment as it stands (far too bloated and probably a number of projects they should just axe now), but they've got a few valuable IPs and some studios who could be an asset.
I feel you pal. In the last 10-15 years a number of major UK studios have closed down. There are a few that still remain, but most have been bought out. I'd rather that of course than they go out of business, but the independent scene in the UK is really a shadow of itself two, three, four generations ago.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
Crytek this gen Factor 5.
BibiMaghoo
Member
As someone that worked in payroll for quite some time, I can tell you that these things do happen without any other meaning. Assuming there was an error with the payroll, a supplementary payroll can be run but this can take a few days to input, check an roll out. Another alternative is to raise manual payments for those affected, which is a considerable amount of work if the employee numbers are high.
However, there is a 0% chance that no one would communicate this to the staff effected, unless they are completely incompetent. My point was simply that walking out on the first day you were not paid, would result in many places sacking you for leaving, because an error on payroll does not give you any right to leave.
Jimmyfenix
Member
True I can see Deep Silver picking it up i hope that game is good.
Fornaximus
Member
Going with Origin and Xbone couldn't have helped them much. Though I'm not going to pretend I've ever enjoyed one of their games. They always seem like soulless tech demos. Hope their staff relocates painlessly.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Steam should have a monopoly?
The causality is really unclear though. Did they lose significant sales because of not selling on Steam? Did they lose sales because of focusing on consoles? etc etc
Some of it doesn't make sense. Origin titles sell pretty okay, and Crysis 3 is still the premier game for showcasing your 780Ti 4790K
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Hopefully Ryse gets ported to PC before the company dies.
prag16
Banned
Heh. People throw in the token "but oh yeah it sucks for the employees, etc" comment to try to give legitimacy to any comment they make before/after that.
Hell, in this case, the employees are probably largely BETTER OFF!
Sounds like dozens or even over a hundred left entirely on their own to pursue other (possibly better) opportunities. And for those who were let go against their wishes, well, everything seems to point to a pretty toxic environment worth moving on from anyhow.
My company has undergone over a 50% staff reduction over the past couple years. I'm still here, but believe me, many people who were let go are far happier and far better off now (anecdotally at least).
It just seems silly sometimes that everyone feels obligated to throw in the token "oh it sucks for the employees" line (regardless of whether they're doing it to be genuine, or to take the "edge" off an otherwise trollish or inflammatory post).
"Layoffs suck" goes without saying, and even then, as I said it's not always all bad.
plagiarize
Banned
They really should have split into two different companies, as others have done in the past. One for the technology and one for the games. That way both sides of the business are protected from the other.
Either that or people have differing opinions on it.
On the chance you do get a paycheck, to, you know, pay for your mortgage, or feed your family. Stuff like that.