This has been said a few times in this thead and i find it odd. If Ryse is such a " bad " game why would people want Sony to go after the IP. Secondly if they don't want to sell it to MS why would they sell it to Sony?
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Kotaku: Crytek Not Paying Staff On Time, Ryse Sequel Dropped
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TheLostBigBoss
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So if Homefront 2 bombs are they fucked?
What other options do they have left?
What other options do they have left?
dantevsninjas
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Since when do you have to play something start to finish to not like it? I didn't play it start to finish because I was too bored to finish it.
rakkadakka
Member
Why have sense when you can troll?
Oh Platinum will get that done, Ryse never looked (outside of graphics) all that great to me. Then again the action games I liked tend to come from Japanese devs.Hopefully Scalebound will show people what an action game is *actually* supposed to play like!
Steverulez
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Who is to say it would turn out better? This is a ridiculous suggestion, for many reasons. The most important being that if MS seemingly can't get the IP off Crytek what makes you think Sony can? Sony like to own the IP on the titles they publish which should be clear at this point...
because I thought the first 3 chapters were garbage but thought the last 4 were great. Sometimes games come together you know. There are countless games that Ive started out and hated but came to love them by the end. Would you take somebodies opinion seriously if they only played 45 minutes of a 8 hour game and said it sucked? This isn't a restaurant where after the first bite you can tell how the rest is going to be
Clear
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All entirely correct, but the real problem comes when a studio gets bigger and the "burn-rate" (running costs, meeting payroll etc.) becomes such that even a couple of months hold-up signing a contract can put them into the red.
This is the hidden cost of the collapse of the "B"-tier games market. Its extraordinarily difficult to grow beyond a certain point because the increase in head-count required places additional stress on maintaining income.
MadOdorMachine
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Sad to hear this, but it just confirms they're not the same company that gained my support with Crysis. I've always hoped they would go back to that, but even if these are all just rumors the odds of that happening is looking less and less likely with their approach to FTP.
I just watched an interview with Cevat Yerli last night from Gamescon 2011 and he was talking about Crysis 2, FTP and their vision for the future of the company. It's hard to argue with what he was saying because he seemed pretty passionate about, but their execution and management of things has caused a lot of damage. They seem to be a company more geared toward single player games, yet they seem hell bent on multiplayer and FTP while letting the quality of the types of games they were once good at significantly drop in quality. This was something he specifically mentioned about Crysis 2 and they did little to address the problem. If they didn't ruin that IP with Crysis 2, they certainly sealed it with Crysis 3. They're also a company known for pushing graphics, so that's another hurdle they'll have to overcome w/FTP. When you add all of this together it just doesn't make sense, at least not with the way they've managed things so far.
I just watched an interview with Cevat Yerli last night from Gamescon 2011 and he was talking about Crysis 2, FTP and their vision for the future of the company. It's hard to argue with what he was saying because he seemed pretty passionate about, but their execution and management of things has caused a lot of damage. They seem to be a company more geared toward single player games, yet they seem hell bent on multiplayer and FTP while letting the quality of the types of games they were once good at significantly drop in quality. This was something he specifically mentioned about Crysis 2 and they did little to address the problem. If they didn't ruin that IP with Crysis 2, they certainly sealed it with Crysis 3. They're also a company known for pushing graphics, so that's another hurdle they'll have to overcome w/FTP. When you add all of this together it just doesn't make sense, at least not with the way they've managed things so far.
PsihoPerihelion
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It's just typical fanboy agenda. Game is bad? Give the IP to the company's direct competition! That guarantees a 100% is going to be better.
Karak
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Well the same rumor mill stated clearly that MS wanted to fund a sequel but wanted the entire IP. So not sure how we suddenly have the same rumors but we only believe half of them can can't fathom them buying the IP especially at what would most likely be an even more reduced cost. Believe only half the shit day today or something.
It should actually be believe none of the shit day
Crytek doing great flush with cash!BruceLeeRoy
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Do you guys honestly want a sequel to Ryse or are you just craving some game that scratches the Spartacus, Gladiator itch regardless of if it was relatively mediocre? It reminds me of when everyone was hoping there was going to be some secret reveal of Heavenly Sword 2. Really?
Karak
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Absofuckinglutely I want one. That game on Hard was fucking so much fun. Opinions brother.
Some people don't like Taimak but we know better.
Crytek keep denying is sad very sad and also those people not getting money to buy food and pay there bills hurts to read it. I hate it when people lose there jobs but Crytek has done nothing good to be honest in the past couple of years. Homefront is not something i would buy full price. There free to play games are not attractive even to play it.
BruceLeeRoy
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WHAT! No one with a heart could hate on Taimak!
CrunchyFrog
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Quick, sell the timesplitters IP to the guys who did the Shadow Warrior reboot
mercenar1e
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Homefront 2 actually looks really good but will the budget problems hurt the game?
digoutyoursoul
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Yep, it's something I expect from N4G
It doesn't matter though if they can't fund their own games.
Redshirt
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I definitely want a sequel to Ryse.
I enjoyed the SP game a lot, and would like to see that combat concept expanded, either in a new setting (knights or samurai) or again in Rome.
I especially enjoyed the MP game. That was one of the freshest co-op experiences in a while. Imperfect, sure, but definitely on to something great.
I enjoyed the SP game a lot, and would like to see that combat concept expanded, either in a new setting (knights or samurai) or again in Rome.
I especially enjoyed the MP game. That was one of the freshest co-op experiences in a while. Imperfect, sure, but definitely on to something great.
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Deleted member 80556
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Damn, I hope Crytek makes it. Homefront better be good.
I liked Heavenly Sword and want a sequel.
I liked Heavenly Sword
and want a sequel.BobTheFork
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Who said Ryse was bad? Who said Sony should pick it up?
TrueGrime
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Relatively mediocre to whom? Some people actually enjoyed the game and well worth the time spent playing it.
Their releases have been getting more and more lackluster and weirder with every new game.
Quality dropping off dramatically, and direction going into strange places with inane focuses.
Crysis and Warhead were their pinnacles really. Then they decided they had to make console games with Crysis 2, 3 and Ryse.
Here you go fellas. Cater to the mass audience demographic.
You deserve everything that's coming to you.
Hope engine sales save you to some degree. Otherwise you're straight up getting bought by EA, and taken out to pasture to die with Bioware, Bullfrog, Westwood, Maxis, etc. etc. do I need go on.
Quality dropping off dramatically, and direction going into strange places with inane focuses.
Crysis and Warhead were their pinnacles really. Then they decided they had to make console games with Crysis 2, 3 and Ryse.
Here you go fellas. Cater to the mass audience demographic.
You deserve everything that's coming to you.
Hope engine sales save you to some degree. Otherwise you're straight up getting bought by EA, and taken out to pasture to die with Bioware, Bullfrog, Westwood, Maxis, etc. etc. do I need go on.
eyeball_kid
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Great reporting, thanks for the story.
It's really strange to me that Crytek would want to pivot to F2P titles. It would be like Nintendo wanting to make a Mortal Kombat game; it's just so contrary to what Crytek excels at.
Hahahaha, sounds about right.
Triggerhappytel
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I don't see much incentive for Sony to do that; particularly when there would be the same IP ownership point of contention. They've already got a few different games in the swords and sorcery combat action genre (admittedly all bar GoW are currently dormant), so I don't see why they would have any interest in Ryse 2: Ryse Harder. It would be a very expensive middle finger to MS.
That's actually a really great idea. Facebook certainly have the money to support a company like Crytek, and the could make amazing VR experiences.
If I were a betting man and Crytek go bankrupt, I reckon MS will buy Ryse, Deep Silver will buy Homefront along with the UK studio, and Wargaming will buy Warface and its Ukrainian development studio. Not sure what would happen with the Frankfurt HQ or CryEngine though. Don't know enough about the other studios to comment on them.
Pretty much this, glad you see it the same way.
I demand a Ryse sequel, the game did a great job at exaggerating brutality, its one of my favourite launch titles. And I dont think ive said "xbox record that" as much for any other game
Karak
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I bet you someone somewhere right now hates him with their cold black heart lol!
SEGAvangelist
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They killed Nomad in a fucking comic that came out after Crysis 1, and then they never mentioned him again in games. They even tried their hardest to almost never mention the original island where aliens were awakened.
I actually want both Heavenly Sword 2 and Ryse 2. Does this blow your mind?
Yup, sure does. I enjoyed Heavenly Sword waaaaaaaay more than most people, I felt like I was the only one who liked it at launch, but I could not possibly give a fuck less about a potential sequel.
Gentleman Jack
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Seems only yesterday this was a tongue-in-cheek joke instead of a depressingly prescient sentiment.
Triggerhappytel
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That's a massive fault with the game if almost the first half is shite, but it massively improves by the end. Nobody should be expected to play through 3 mediocre hours for the promise of 4 good ones at the end of it.
"Countless" -- really?!
I think you can get a pretty good idea of the quality of a fun, shallow action game in the first hour or so. Besides you said 3 chapters out of 7 were "garbage" and then insinuate these presumptuous people are forming their opinions after three quarters of an hour. Which is it?
NullPointer
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Yes, I'd like to see another Ryse specifically. The combat and command choices had real potential, the storytelling worked, and the Colosseum was fantastic. There's a real kernel of greatness there to be explored.
I also loved Heavenly Sword, and I got my Heavenly Sword 2 on as well, only it was called DmC.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Gimme some of dat tropical beach/forest goodness @ 95 fps on an Oculus CV1. Don't need a shootbang either, just some cryengine 3 foliage goodness swaying around. Can't imagine what that would be like in VR using their tall grass tech from Crysis 3. Hnnng. Do it Zuckerberg...DO IT.
Heavenly Sword had good VO, a good script, and interesting characters. DmC really had none of that, I only enjoyed it for the gameplay. It had none of what made Heavenly Sword cool.