Principate
Saint Titanfall
Just Microsoft so far nothing from Nintendo
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March 2017 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, April 11th
Omnistalgic
Member
I really wish Switch would get decent stock. I mean is it still too early to be annoyed by this? What the heck did they think was gonna happen here?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It should start getting decent stock by the end of April, that's MK territory and I highly doubt they's want to knee-cap whatever boost that provides.
Frankfurter
Member
We'll hopefully soon know how much Switch sold in March. If it's anything north oft ~750k I really think Nintendo was simply surprised by demand.
Unknown?
Member
Very expected. I wonder if the gap is as huge as last month. Xbox could have been a distant third this month. I'm guessing the gap is finally at 2 million between the two now.
I was always under the impression it was closer to 28 than 26 in months past
This makes me wonder is that why the Scorpio reveal got pushed to E3. Bigger audience, more exposure, more attention on it.
Wasn't it supposed to be revealed before E3 in a smaller setting?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Who knows at this point.
Graphics Horse
Member
Considering they forecast shipping 2M worldwide, 750k is in the right ballpark to meet that, but we don't know if they even shipped 2M yet.
Dark Cloud
Member
Is there an exact time when we get all the info?
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Any time now Nintendo for that PR...
Really, because I made my predictions thinking 2million was confirmed.
Edit: yeah, I am beginning to think I predicted higher than what it will end up being.
In March 2017 NPD thread? What are talking about?
falconxcrunner09
Member
Inb4 PS4 goes beast mode and outsells Switch
Graphics Horse
Member
I predicted based on assuming they would exceed 2m, but I don't think there has been confirmation either way, could be wrong tho
MS PR said:
I can't believe MS is still doing this shit and trying to pass it off as impressive information. Of course the total number of hours logged is going to be higher when there are MORE XB1s in homes compared to this time last year. The real question is whether gamers on average are logging as many hours as they were a year ago. How does that 14% increase compare to the increase in total systems sold since January 2016? Is it the same? Higher? Lower? Because if it's lower, it means people aren't spending as much time with the system. I think MS just like to throw a big number out there and hope that most people won't put much thought into it.
906k if we trust that other thread.
Graphics Horse
Member
I suspect Gaspard has got the best prediction overall
Oh hey I was 4k off if that's true. Coolness.
Are you talking about the hardware event they recently announced? I don't think that was ever gaming related. Unless there was some other event planned I think it was always supposed to be revealed at E3.
theprodigy
Member
That >100% attach rate tho
Graphics Horse
Member
Yeah that's quite something..
Welfare
Member
Hardware stock is clearly not meeting demand and Nintendo were preparing for Zelda to have close to a 1:1 ratio.
April is going to be a really good month for Nintendo.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Did you expect Switch to somehow sell worse than XB1 on launch? I'm kinda confused why this seems shocking
Edit: oh you're talking about them stopping with the pointless PR. Ya I see that haha
Primethius
Banned
God damn. I take it back. Well done Nintendo!
Edit: Also, thanks for everyone correcting my PS4 numbers earlier. Appreciated and apologies for using incorrect numbers.
Liabe Brave
Member
Measuring LTD at end of February, Microsoft have 41.2% more consoles sold in 2017 versus in 2016. So a naive calculation would be that each owner is spending about 20% less time playing on Xbox One this year than last.
Of course, the real picture is more complicated. Since last year Microsoft launched Xbox One S, so some percentage of the "installed base increase" was actually folks just replacing their original Xbox One. In addition, over time the new customers attracted by a platform are, on average, less enthusiasts and more casual. So to some extent the lower engagement numbers don't indicate old customers playing 20% less. Instead they may be just as dedicated as ever (or more), but some newer, less committed customers are playing, say, 40% less.
In addition, the fact that they said they were up over the whole first quarter may indirectly indicate they were actually down YoY for March alone. If so, then the prior two months would've been up YoY by more. This would have no effect on the overall numbers, but might paint a better narrative. It's not as concerning if "the rise in engagement more nearly matched the rise in hardware, except in March"...as opposed to "the rise in engagement lagged behind the rise in hardware all quarter long."
Yeah, really great, especially for a non-holiday launch. The only one of those that's close was Gameboy Advance at 881k in June 2001. The only consoles of any kind to be higher than Switch are Xbox One and PS4 from November 2013. (Unless there's some weird surprise hiding in previous generations; my data doesn't go back into the 90s or earlier, but I'd be shocked if there'd ever been a million-unit launch that long ago.)
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Hmmm I thought numbers went out on Thursdays?
Anywho, congrats to Zelda and Switch.
Curious to see what the other software did for the month, such as Horizon. Really want to see how it compares to TLOU or other new IPs from this gen
Anywho, congrats to Zelda and Switch.
Curious to see what the other software did for the month, such as Horizon. Really want to see how it compares to TLOU or other new IPs from this gen
DriftingSpirit
Member
They changed it. We get hardware one week and software the next.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
think it's safe to say zelda debuted higher than horizon
ghost recon prolly higher
mass effect prolly lower than horizon
ghost recon prolly higher
mass effect prolly lower than horizon
GravityInsanity
Member
Find out next week on Dragon Ball Z.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Do we have the software ranking? I want to see how many games GTA V outsold
Dash_Riprock
Member
If its anything like the S then God help them.
Considering how the target demographic for Scorpio is enthusiasts and will be priced to reflect that, I can't see Scorpio giving XB1 a massive boost when Pro didn't contribute all that much to the PS4's success last Christmas. It was the Slim that did most of the work.
It most assuredly will be, especially with the premium-price tag.
Wii - 476K
WiiU - 425K
wapplew
Member
Strange comment.
Xbox doesn't need help, they are happy with the numbers and engagement, with or without Scorpio.
It's not like Xbox losing any big western big publishers support. Games sell well on the platform, publishers will continue make games for it, it doesn't need help.
That's massively less than Switch. Surely that can't be explained only by Switch having a whole rather than a half month, so it seems to me that they have stocked quite well in comparison (still not good enough, though).
Agreed. Let's wait and see what another sku can do for the platform.
At 499 price point where MS has a brand problem around the world. They are going to have a tough time selling it outside of the hardcores of us/uk. Price matters in those countries too. Rest of the world it won't exist
graywolf323
Member
they pretty much made it almost useless (at least for the general public who don't receive the paid reports)
Since Nintendo announced Switch sales for March, a sneak peak at what's currently going on Amazon.com's Top 100, a bit less than two days after the Direct (no accessories counted)
As of April 14th, 2017 | 15:33 GMT
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 1st
Nintendo Switch Grey - 9th | not available
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 10th
Splatoon 2 - 36th
Arms - 51st
Nintendo Switch Neon - 63rd | not available
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers - 64th
Super Mario Odyssey - 71st
1-2 Switch - 80th
Puyo Puyo Tetris - 82nd | PS4 SKU: 746th
Cave Story+ - 87th
LEGO City Undercover - 95th | One SKU: 290th | PS4 SKU: 375th
As of April 14th, 2017 | 15:33 GMT
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 1st
Nintendo Switch Grey - 9th | not available
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 10th
Splatoon 2 - 36th
Arms - 51st
Nintendo Switch Neon - 63rd | not available
Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers - 64th
Super Mario Odyssey - 71st
1-2 Switch - 80th
Puyo Puyo Tetris - 82nd | PS4 SKU: 746th
Cave Story+ - 87th
LEGO City Undercover - 95th | One SKU: 290th | PS4 SKU: 375th
DecoReturns
Member
I think it's fair to say Mario Kart is Nintendos most important franchise. Next to Pokémon
What's interesting is that BOTW's 10th ranking, one below the Switch SKU, suggests BOTW is still selling to nearly every new Switch buyer, which is pretty darn good 6 weeks after release and with MK8D on the horizon.
Unknown?
Member
Not yet but I'd be willing to bet Xbox was down yoy and a distant third. Last month was at least a 170k difference. This month may be 200k.
Darth Smurf X
Member
Is it too late to change my predictions?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Pretty much insane attach rate on the wii u, 30 million on the wii and even did well on the 3DS. King of racers.
Obliterator
Member
There are a lot of people still obsessed with the "race" and not realizing that a platform can be healthy and profitable without being the industry leader.
The Xbox division is doing fine. The One isn't a home run like the 360 was but it's a healthy platform by industry standards