Frozenprince
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Is that the one that's nothing but Reed Richards?
Sounds like the one with nothing but Reed Richards.
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Mayweather: McGregor and Rousey are proof racism still exists in combat sports
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Is that the one that's nothing but Reed Richards?
Sounds like the one with nothing but Reed Richards.
Sage Northcutt is getting that pay level because Sage Northcutt looks like he's straight out of a boy band and is absurdly marketable because of it.
You can get by on just your skills if you're top tier. Otherwise, you need to find a hook to make people want to see you again.
Epsilon-delta
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Mike Tyson was not universally loved.
Teddy Atlas told everyone within earshot of the incident that went down between his niece and Tyson:
http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/3327-Remorseful-Tyson-Apologizes-to-Atlas
Bam Bam Baklava
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Would have been cool to see a McGregor-Mayweather fight somehow, just for the mind games.
It's not just combat sports. The shit that Serena Williams has gone through is absolutely revolting. And she's probably the best athlete on the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5OdUTT6Ro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5OdUTT6Ro
arya's prayer
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Wait so people bring up Richard Sherman. A Stanford grad who was vilified and called a thug all over the place after winning the Superbowl and being pumped up in the interview that took place ~20 seconds after the game. And your response is that none of that matters because (insert random black person) wasn't called a thug? Wow
Based on this thread, maybe a few more people would've gotten the point if Rhonda rousey had made the comments
QuantumZebra
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In this case what he said doesn't seem racist at all. Unless pointing out white privilege makes one racist.
Ol No Bones
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To be fair I think they are all for the most part Cocky and arrogant.
BennyBlanco
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Professional athletes for the most part are. You go through your whole life from high school on with people constantly telling you how great you are and kissing your ass.
perineumlick
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Mayweather did the same thing until he started moving up in weight. Fighting much bigger guys plus hand problems equals decisions. People kill me with that reasoning.
RockTurtle
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what is floyd's problem with asians?
Raonak
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While he's right that racism exists in sports, those (imo) aren't great examples.
McGregor talked a lot of shit, but the thing that made him loved was that he actually backed it up. I wasn't a fan of his until I saw that 13 second knockout.
Rousey was liked because she completely dominated her weight class. Winning pretty much every match in the first round until holly came around.
McGregor talked a lot of shit, but the thing that made him loved was that he actually backed it up. I wasn't a fan of his until I saw that 13 second knockout.
Rousey was liked because she completely dominated her weight class. Winning pretty much every match in the first round until holly came around.
They don't call them "Owners" for nothing
BearFlexington
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It took a seven year win streak for Anderson to achieve that level of fame. Conor has a year of relevance under his belt and will rival Silva in UFC payouts soon if he hasn't already.
As for "finding a hook," what's Sage's hook? He's young, handsome and white. That's not a hook.
True on all levels.
That said, Mayweather is a craven, race baiting piece of crap. So I don't care to hear anything from him, no matter how on point it may be. Broken clocks, et al.
Orly
You were obviously watching a different video than the rest of us.
Jest Chillin
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Silva hit that height before the 7 year win streak. At the height of his career in popularity, acclaim, and pay... Superfight coversations were happening regarding either Silva and GSP (who had a similar but slightly higher popularity/draw and similar win streak) or Silva and Jon Jones.. who had just as much notoriety and acclaim (though not popularity) with a fraction of the time as a professional as either of the other two fighters.
Now I'm not saying Sage isn't getting an undeserved push (Paige actually had a good record and the skills to back up her push) but it's disingenious to act like Silva took his entire career to start to draw and get big paychecks.
It's also worth noting that Conor makes most of his money on PPV points, which just means that he was more savy about negotiating and understanding his value both in terms of Draw and the fact that he's been the sole gateway for the UFC to gain more popularity in Ireland (not unlike Besping getting his big push when the UFC wanted to open up the UK years before).
Frozenprince
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Alright look. To put that incident in a little context, at that time, Tyson was just beginning to live with his trainer, Cus D'Amato. Before he lived with Cus, he grew up literally in a whorehouse that his mother ran. He had a pretty warped view of life and reality and how to relate to women and has for basically his entire life.
I'm not excusing it, what he did was clearly and obviously wrong, but there is something inherently tragic about the guys life where he was just used and thrown away once he was no good anymore by everybody he ever knew.
theignoramus
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Love Floyd as a fighter but him making racist statements about Pacquiao DQS him from this discussion, regardless of how valid his point is.
theignoramus
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Tysons reputation in the 90s was even worse than Floyd's now, and he was charged with rape. Bit a fighters ear off. Was into Nation of Islam.
He was an even bigger heel than Floyd in his prime, but public perception of him has softened up significantly.
You must be visiting some crazy different sites than I am.
RockTurtle
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dont forget his weird callout of jeremy lin during linsanity. and pointing out the fact there was a japanese boxer in top 10
McGregor has also been pretty gracious upon his wins. He'll usually say something nice about his opponent after victory. Even after his Aldo win he said he was a great Champion.
DerangedHermit
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It's usually the justification that some ...hmm...people use for their ra----suspect behavior.
Odell Beckham Jr. dances all the time and you have the same argument. The NFL overhypes both OBJ and Watt, Watt moreso in the TV and commercial side. Venture into the NFL thread, tons of posters will agree Watt is a media attention whore. The Newton showboating riled up Tennessee Titans players, most of whom are black, so where's the line sit? There are several black QB's in the NFL and none of them get scoffed at like Cam does. It's not hard to identify. Overly egocentric people are hard to like. Those who constantly showboat in any way. Cam is one of them. He's just having fun, we know that, but there's a line where it gets overplayed. You don't see fans doing the same treatment to Teddy Bridgewater, Tyrod Taylor, Jameis Winston, etc.
GrizzleBoy
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Serena Williams thread.
Conor issued a response on his facebook
https://www.facebook.com/thenotorio...1828.494191297315841/1191890754212555/?type=3
https://www.facebook.com/thenotorio...1828.494191297315841/1191890754212555/?type=3
He kind of has a point. Look at Richard Sherman who didn't swear, he is a stand up guy, he shouted loudly at the end of a football interview and all of a sudden he's a cocky thug.
Mayweather is a woman beating piece of shit, fuck him and thinking he doesn't deserve the criticism. He's a giant asshole. But if you look, confident black athletes risk becoming a thug, they become scary and dangerous. Not always the case though. I mean I fucking loathe Ronda Rousey, I was jumping for joy when she got headkicked and beaten. Holly Holm had far more class. I would've drawn comparisons to Jon Jones, who's actually soft spoken and polite and dominant yet hated, but his recent coke binges and hit and run on a pregnant woman really turned people against him. Anderson Silva was super arrogant for a long time, and it was fine until he started showboating in fights in the octagon and then it changed.
Conor McGregor will eventually fall victim to the same thing. People don't like arrogance for long. Anderson Silva, even GSP started to get hate.
As for Ali, read up on how much Joe Frazier hated him for the stuff he said. Joe personally went to the President to allow him to fight Ali who was banned after Ali begged him to get him back. And then Ali went and started calling Frazier an uncle Tom, a gorilla, really hitting Joe Frazier's character. After their thrilla in manilla fight, Ali apologized to Joe's son for all he said, but it was already out there.
I mean Mike Tyson was arrogant as shit and people loved him. Maybe that's just the way it is, you have to be one of the soft spoken 'good ones'.
Mayweather is a woman beating piece of shit, fuck him and thinking he doesn't deserve the criticism. He's a giant asshole. But if you look, confident black athletes risk becoming a thug, they become scary and dangerous. Not always the case though. I mean I fucking loathe Ronda Rousey, I was jumping for joy when she got headkicked and beaten. Holly Holm had far more class. I would've drawn comparisons to Jon Jones, who's actually soft spoken and polite and dominant yet hated, but his recent coke binges and hit and run on a pregnant woman really turned people against him. Anderson Silva was super arrogant for a long time, and it was fine until he started showboating in fights in the octagon and then it changed.
Conor McGregor will eventually fall victim to the same thing. People don't like arrogance for long. Anderson Silva, even GSP started to get hate.
As for Ali, read up on how much Joe Frazier hated him for the stuff he said. Joe personally went to the President to allow him to fight Ali who was banned after Ali begged him to get him back. And then Ali went and started calling Frazier an uncle Tom, a gorilla, really hitting Joe Frazier's character. After their thrilla in manilla fight, Ali apologized to Joe's son for all he said, but it was already out there.
I mean Mike Tyson was arrogant as shit and people loved him. Maybe that's just the way it is, you have to be one of the soft spoken 'good ones'.
Team Filler
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I will never understand the shit flung towards Richard Sherman. The guy played a great game and was clearly gleeful and excited about it, and outside the job is a super cool person from everything I'd read or watched about him. Completely shameful.
What Mayweather said is true, but he is such a seemingly contemptible person that any message coming from him is poisoned and may as well have not been said at all.
What Mayweather said is true, but he is such a seemingly contemptible person that any message coming from him is poisoned and may as well have not been said at all.
RockTurtle
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a very cute dog
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You're not wrong Floyd, you're just an asshole.
Basileus777
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He's not wrong about Ronda. If she weren't an attractive white women public perception of her would have been vastly different.
I don't like when athletes are poor winners. Dude was a poor winner. Talk shit before the game = no problem at all. Talk shit about your opponent that you just knocked out of the playoffs = asshole.
He just came across as an annoying, poor-sport, asshole to me when I watched that interview live.
not really. It would have a predictable outcome.
boxing rules McGregor gets his ass kicked
MMA rules, Floyd gets his ass kicked
sounds like Floyd
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