The steam number is from Steamspy
For PS3 PS4 I had access to NPD and GFK for 2015's data which were 147k for PS4 and 34k for PS3 NA+EMEA.
180k 40k is a projection of updated numbers on my side, could be more could be less but it gives a rough idea.
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The steam number is from Steamspy
For PS3 PS4 I had access to NPD and GFK for 2015's data which were 147k for PS4 and 34k for PS3 NA+EMEA.
180k 40k is a projection of updated numbers on my side, could be more could be less but it gives a rough idea.
I thought Project Diva X sales would be bad... but cripes.
I guess a Project Mirai 3 on NX is our only hope for a future Miku game?
Code:
02./00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (SEGA) - 101,414 / NEW
02./00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega) - 241.467 / NEW
01./00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend <ACT> (Sega) {2011.11.10} (¥5.299) - 184.673 / NEW
01./00. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f # <ACT> (Sega) {2012.08.30} (¥7.329) - 159.592 / NEW
01./00. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329) - 110.229 / NEW
[PSV+PS3] 269.821
01./00. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd <ACT> (Sega) {2014.03.27} (¥7.350) - 98.628 / NEW
03./00. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd <ACT> (Sega) {2014.03.27} (¥7.350) - 59.965 / NEW
[PSV+PS3] 158.593
03./00. [PSV] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X <ACT> (Sega) {2016.03.24} (¥6.990) - 69.438 / NEW
08./00. [PS4] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X HD <ACT> (Sega) {2016.08.25} (¥7.990) - 12.915 / NEW
[PSV+PS4] 82.353I guess a Project Mirai 3 on NX is our only hope for a future Miku game?
Ahh okay, last numbers I had seen were from cream waaay back when when it opened at a combined sales figure of 58k at NPD. Bit weird that it moved that much since then, no?
Comparatively, Steam opened at ~80k and had a free game.
Jon Carter
Member
Keep up that strategy, Nintendo. Developing a slew of random low-budget spin-offs instead of a smaller number of big titles has been a tremendous success. There was no better way to use their resources than using them on games like The Legend of Zelda: TriFlop Heroes, Chibi Bomba: Zip-Lash, Animal Crossing: amiibomb Floptival and Metroid Bomb: Federation Flop.
TLoZ:TF and AC:HHD both sold very, very well.
So I am not sure you've identified the issue here and are trying to make a shit generalization. Its not the budget, its the end product and IP utilization that matters. Some of these products were just nonsensically bad IP utilization and projects from the onset which were destined to and deserved to burn.
Supermanisdead
Member
Burn in hell, federation force
For all those flops, we would get huge success like AC: HHD and TFH lol.
AC:HHD sales: 3 mil
TLZ:TFH: 1.1 mil
Many other games would dream to reach those number here.
Great contribution.
And Pocket Monsters RGBY sales were 63,780 (total) 23,177 (eShop) from 27 June - 31 July.
Isn't that Steam number worldwide while that 58k US only? Tales supposedly does well in France and better in Europe in general (read this somewherebut don't have a source) but lets just assume the same that would mean 116k across both regions. Now the gap to LTD isn't all that different and Steam still has the better legs.
nvm misread
You gotta know your audience, at least one of those two companies are aware of their audience.
Weird that you'd call a game shit without knowing it, but that's subject for another discussion altogether.
Tales doing better in Europe must be a recent phenomenon. Symphonia, Vesperia and Xillia all did much better in the US iirc.
I think Miku bombed because of Future Tone. Sega really didn't want to release Future Tone (aka digital release only) and it makes sense why. FT has 224 songs for 8000yen. After that, fans going back to paying 6000-8000yen for a 30 song game is lol
FT probably killed the franchise. If they were smart they'd release it on a disc and make money supplementing it through monthly DLC for years like a Japanese Rock Band equivalent.
Also while KoF14 sold about as much as KoF13, didn't KoF13's low sales almost put the company out of business again and cause them to get bought by another company again? If so I wouldn't use that as a barometer of healthy sales.
FT probably killed the franchise. If they were smart they'd release it on a disc and make money supplementing it through monthly DLC for years like a Japanese Rock Band equivalent.
Also while KoF14 sold about as much as KoF13, didn't KoF13's low sales almost put the company out of business again and cause them to get bought by another company again? If so I wouldn't use that as a barometer of healthy sales.
With all their resources on Zelda? I wouldn't count on it.
Is Zelda the only game Nintendo is releasing for NX? If not I don't see the issue because Metroid and Zelda teams have never overlapped.
How many big single player games have you seen Nintendo make at the same time? I mean, if it's by Retro or some third party like Team Ninja, sure, it's possible. Maybe Platinum is making a Metroid game! Hurrr. Otherwise I don't see it honestly.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Tales games go on sale all the time on consoles DD.
So it could also pick up some extra sales there.
Nintendo could easily collaborate with (an) outside developer(s). Other than that Nintendo has significantly grown and restructured.
Edit: Hell even Next Level Games could be working on it considering they have developed multiple games in tandem in the past(including HD games). That's a hypothetical example though not a prediction.
KillerMan91
Member
Well even still considering how next Tales of is probably at least 2 years away I don't see this situation as problematic. By then PS4 will have had decent amount of big JRPG releases (Persona, FFXV, DQXI, maybe KHIII?) and even the more casual userbase of Tales of should be on the platform.
Well in his post Fisico mentioned GFK so I assume those numbers have both NA and PAL sales. That 58k figure is only for US.
Do you have you numbers for Xillia? I remember it opening with decent sales in EU (even in UK). Symphonia and Vesperia were on platforms that had way higher installbase in US so it makes sense those did better there.
This is really the most puzzling aspect of Federation Force to me: Who was supposed to be the audience for the game?
Regardless how I look at it, I can't make a lot of sense of it.
Was it supposed to appeal to Metroid fans? Then this only underlines the theory that Nintendo doesn't quite understand what fans like about the franchise. You didn't need to be an expert to realize that a cooperative squad shooter wouldn't be appealing to most Metroid fans.
Or was it never meant to appeal to Metroid fans and instead only tried to benefit from a known brand? It's possible Nintendo looked at the kind of multiplayer FPS that are popular in the west and came to the conclusion that they also want this kind of game on their platform. But even then you don't have to be an expert to come to the conclusion that the 3DS is a particularly poor fit for this kind of game.
It's ironic. This was in all likelihood meant to be a game that appeals to western audiences and yet NoA and NoE probably always knew that they've got a game on their hands that is destined to flop.
To add to this, I do think Nintendo reacted to Federation Force's poor reception: By cutting back their marketing efforts to a bare minimum following Federation Force's initial reveal.
And, to be honest, I think that was the right decision. They could have tried to rework the game based around fan feedback, but I think this is one of these cases where the underlying game was just so particularly unappealing that whatever they could have done would have cost them more money than they would eventually have made back. So, instead of doing that, they just cut their losses.
They also had a release date several months apart between regions and on platforms that did far better in America than Europe bar Xillia. Heck I remember waiting practically a year for Vesperia (August to July following year). I also read somewhere that their European branch handles the series in the West now instead of the US for that reason.
But like I said I don't have a source so who knows how true all that is. My main point was the Vena was equating worldwide Steam numbers to US only Playstation numbers at and then seemed surprised how similar they were LTD.
When was the last time one of Nintendo's internal teams developed a Metroid (on their own)? Metroid Zero Mission more than 10 years ago? Even if a big new 3D Metroid is in development, its development would almost certainly be outsourced (or done by Retro / one of their affiliates).
JRPG franchises usually drop quite a bit on Steam once a second game gets released. The first time around, they attract lapsed fans and people who buy a game out of curiosity since a somewhat known franchise made it to PC after so many years.
By the time a sequel gets released, you are back to the people who aren't just curios but actually like what they played.
Berseria could benefit from good word of mouth, but I assume this would only have an effect in the long run (and once the game becomes cheaper). It'll be interesting to see if Berseria will generally be better received in the west than in Japan, since we now have the benefit to know that Berseria is apparently somewhat of a return to form for the franchise, though.
The issue is more that there hasn't been a Project Diva with as much new content as f, since f. The original release had 32 songs, with 7 more added as DLC. None of the songs in f were in previous Project Diva's, apart from the Popipo DLC.
A large portion of f2nd's content was songs from previous games (20/40 of the base songlist, all 16 DLC songs). It was billed as a "greatest hits of the Project Diva series" release, but a drop was kind of expected there.
PDX was mostly new songs (apart from parts of the medleys), but the production values on song videos took a huge hit, they're just stage performances now instead of music videos/stories. Also, the X HD release only added 2 songs from the MikuExpo concert, whereas f->F added 6 fairly popular songs for the time.
Unless they come up with something f-level, Sega's pretty much digging their own hole.
There are other factors working against the PS4 release though, so it's not a completely fair comparison.
The game changed quite a bit, and places greater emphasis on the "campaign". As a result, it has far fewer songs than any of the games released this gen (dunno how it compares to the PSP games). And yeah, as mentioned above, even the presentation is very different.
The negative reception to this hurt both the Vita release and this.
In addition to this, Future Tone, which has like 8x as many songs came out a month ago.
I doubt they would've ever thrown the same amount of resources to a Metroid game as they do with a Zelda(among others) even less now. That and if it exists it might not be developed internally. Regardless if such game exists and it's either developed internally or by somebody else there'll be a lot of skepticism towards it.
Ahh good point, I was completely brain-farting on NPD vs. RotW.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Right, it seems ToZ almost beat Xillia in western sales. NB seemed elated at the 1 million+ Xillia did so Zestiria doing 700k+ is still a good number. I expect Berseria to be 600k-700k though.
Jon Carter
Member
Did I need to bold the word "random"? Of course spin-offs and low-budget games can sell well. Happy Home Designer (and Captain Toad) are smart spin-offs and, although they were made on a low budget, it's because they're building off a strong, polished engine and graphics foundation. Captain Toad in particular is one of the best-looking games on the Wii U.
And although calling TriForce a flop may be incorrect in the sense that it sold well for what it is, it says more about what it is than about whether it was a particularly smart use of resources for Nintendo. The game sold fine on its own but there was so much room for the 3DS to grow in the West at the time and if they really had to green light a Zelda game, for some reason, there was an opportunity for a much better performance and reception. TriForce Heroes wasn't gonna sell anyone a 3DS and Nintendo should have no trouble finding 15 other projects with the power to sell over a million copies on the 3DS using their IPs. It would be harder coming up with a Zelda title that can't sell one million than coming up with one that can.
Ultimately, cheap spin-offs were, in my opinion, a strategy more fitting for the Wii U than the 3DS. There was no hope of selling much hardware anyway, in the Wii U's case, and big projects would have been limited by the install base, so the best thing to do is to come up with games that could be very profitable by selling a smaller amount of copies. It's a waste of the 3DS' install base however, as they could sell multiple millions of copies with one game. For example, there is just one 3D Mario platformer on the 3DS - actually just one 3D Nintendo platformer - and it came out five years ago and is the fourth best-selling game on the system at nearly 11 million copies sold. That doesn't necessarily mean that I think they should have pulled everyone working on an NX Mario to make 3D Land 2, but it's just a reminder of the system's potential. With the exception of Happy Home Designer, I don't think any of those 3DS spin-offs were good ideas.
Famitsu Sales: Week 35, 2016 (Aug 22 - Aug 28)
01./02. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.07.16} (¥4.800) - 40.026 / 1.088.501 <80-100%> (-46%)
02./01. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 26.829 / 186.869 <80-100%> (-83%)
03./00. [PS4] The King of Fighters XIV <FTG> (SNK Playmore) {2016.08.25} (¥7.200) - 23.242 / NEW <60-80%>
04./03. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 16.652 / 90.704 <80-100%> (-78%)
05./00. [PSV] Sengoku Otome: Legend Battle # <FTG> (Planet G) {2016.08.25} (¥6.980) - 16.129 / NEW <80-100%>
06./00. [PS4] No Man's Sky <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.25} (¥5.900) - 15.997 / NEW <60-80%>
07./00. [PS4] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den <ACT> (Capcom) {2016.08.25} (¥6.990) - 15.161 / NEW <40-60%>
08./00. [PS4] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X HD <ACT> (Sega) {2016.08.25} (¥7.990) - 13.781 / NEW <40-60%>
09./04. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} (¥4.800) - 13.632 / 182.756 <60-80%> (-35%)
10./00. [PS3] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den <ACT> (Capcom) {2016.08.25} (¥6.990) - 11.116 / NEW <20-40%>
11./00. [3DS] Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack <Azure Striker Gunvolt \ Azure Striker Gunvolt 2> # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2016.08.25} (¥4.800) - 8.096 / NEW <60-80%>
12./05. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.04} (¥5.700) - 7.855 / 130.590 <80-100%> (-40%)
13./07. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600) - 7.741 / 106.890 <80-100%> (-23%)
14./00. [PSV] Meiji Toukyou Renka: Full Moon # <ADV> (5pb.) {2016.08.25} (¥6.800) - 7.408 / NEW <60-80%>
15./06. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 6.848 / 395.965 <80-100%> (-39%)
16./09. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.571) - 6.311 / 3.069.086 <80-100%> (-28%)
17./00. [PSV] Moujuu-Tachi to Ohimesama # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2016.08.25} (¥6.300) - 5.181 / NEW <60-80%>
18./10. [WIU] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2016.06.23} (¥5.700) - 4.547 / 96.908 <80-100%> (-39%)
19./11. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2016.02.18} (¥4.700) - 4.298 / 230.387 <80-100%> (-39%)
20./00. [3DS] Metroid Prime: Federation Force <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.08.25} (¥4.700) - 4.286 / NEW <20-40%>
21./00. [PSV] Ouma ga Toki: Kakuriyo no Enishi # <ACT> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting Extended) {2016.08.25} (¥5.800) - 4.199 / NEW <60-80%>
22./12. [3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Version_ |DL| (Dedicated Download Card Special) <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.02.27} (¥1.389) - 3.975 / 260.134 <80-100%> (-40%)
23./15. [WIU] Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥5.700) - 3.934 / 1.393.722 <80-100%> (-28%)
24./16. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 3.752 / 759.529 <80-100%> (-25%)
25./13. [PS4] Ratchet & Clank # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.09} (¥5.900) - 3.490 / 30.505 <60-80%> (-45%)
26./21. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Nintendo Selects] <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} (¥2.700) - 2.956 / 87.739 <80-100%> (-24%)
27./00. [PSV] PuraMai Wars V # <ADV> (Entergram) {2016.08.25} (¥5.980) - 2.869 / NEW <60-80%>
28./14. [PSV] Toukiden 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.07.28} (¥6.800) - 2.822 / 99.083 <80-100%> (-55%)
29./19. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2016.07.21} (¥4.800) - 2.723 / 42.129 <60-80%> (-34%)
30./22. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.06.16} (¥4.800) - 2.363 / 93.610 <80-100%> (-32%)
Top 30
3DS - 12
PSV - 7
PS4 - 6
WIU - 3
PS3 - 2
HARDWARE
01./02. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.07.16} (¥4.800) - 40.026 / 1.088.501 <80-100%> (-46%)
02./01. [PS4] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 26.829 / 186.869 <80-100%> (-83%)
03./00. [PS4] The King of Fighters XIV <FTG> (SNK Playmore) {2016.08.25} (¥7.200) - 23.242 / NEW <60-80%>
04./03. [PS3] Tales of Berseria <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.18} (¥8.200) - 16.652 / 90.704 <80-100%> (-78%)
05./00. [PSV] Sengoku Otome: Legend Battle # <FTG> (Planet G) {2016.08.25} (¥6.980) - 16.129 / NEW <80-100%>
06./00. [PS4] No Man's Sky <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.25} (¥5.900) - 15.997 / NEW <60-80%>
07./00. [PS4] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den <ACT> (Capcom) {2016.08.25} (¥6.990) - 15.161 / NEW <40-60%>
08./00. [PS4] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X HD <ACT> (Sega) {2016.08.25} (¥7.990) - 13.781 / NEW <40-60%>
09./04. [3DS] Puzzle & Dragons X: God Chapter / Dragon Chapter <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2016.07.28} (¥4.800) - 13.632 / 182.756 <60-80%> (-35%)
10./00. [PS3] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den <ACT> (Capcom) {2016.08.25} (¥6.990) - 11.116 / NEW <20-40%>
11./00. [3DS] Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack <Azure Striker Gunvolt \ Azure Striker Gunvolt 2> # <ACT> (Inti Creates) {2016.08.25} (¥4.800) - 8.096 / NEW <60-80%>
12./05. [3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.08.04} (¥5.700) - 7.855 / 130.590 <80-100%> (-40%)
13./07. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600) - 7.741 / 106.890 <80-100%> (-23%)
14./00. [PSV] Meiji Toukyou Renka: Full Moon # <ADV> (5pb.) {2016.08.25} (¥6.800) - 7.408 / NEW <60-80%>
15./06. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.04.28} (¥4.700) - 6.848 / 395.965 <80-100%> (-39%)
16./09. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.571) - 6.311 / 3.069.086 <80-100%> (-28%)
17./00. [PSV] Moujuu-Tachi to Ohimesama # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2016.08.25} (¥6.300) - 5.181 / NEW <60-80%>
18./10. [WIU] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2016.06.23} (¥5.700) - 4.547 / 96.908 <80-100%> (-39%)
19./11. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2016.02.18} (¥4.700) - 4.298 / 230.387 <80-100%> (-39%)
20./00. [3DS] Metroid Prime: Federation Force <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.08.25} (¥4.700) - 4.286 / NEW <20-40%>
21./00. [PSV] Ouma ga Toki: Kakuriyo no Enishi # <ACT> (Nippon Cultural Broadcasting Extended) {2016.08.25} (¥5.800) - 4.199 / NEW <60-80%>
22./12. [3DS] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow _3DS Virtual Console Version_ |DL| (Dedicated Download Card Special) <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.02.27} (¥1.389) - 3.975 / 260.134 <80-100%> (-40%)
23./15. [WIU] Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥5.700) - 3.934 / 1.393.722 <80-100%> (-28%)
24./16. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 3.752 / 759.529 <80-100%> (-25%)
25./13. [PS4] Ratchet & Clank # <ACT> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2016.08.09} (¥5.900) - 3.490 / 30.505 <60-80%> (-45%)
26./21. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf [Nintendo Selects] <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.03.17} (¥2.700) - 2.956 / 87.739 <80-100%> (-24%)
27./00. [PSV] PuraMai Wars V # <ADV> (Entergram) {2016.08.25} (¥5.980) - 2.869 / NEW <60-80%>
28./14. [PSV] Toukiden 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2016.07.28} (¥6.800) - 2.822 / 99.083 <80-100%> (-55%)
29./19. [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Mura o Tsukurundesu <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2016.07.21} (¥4.800) - 2.723 / 42.129 <60-80%> (-34%)
30./22. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Don Don! Mystery Adventure <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.06.16} (¥4.800) - 2.363 / 93.610 <80-100%> (-32%)
Top 30
3DS - 12
PSV - 7
PS4 - 6
WIU - 3
PS3 - 2
HARDWARE
Code:
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| 3DS # | 20.788 | 26.735 | 47.397 | 884.782 | 1.250.011 | 20.921.738 |
| PSV # | 9.458 | 11.086 | 11.461 | 631.808 | 613.959 | 5.014.225 |
| PS4 | 6.760 | 19.053 | 17.321 | 882.662 | 679.657 | 3.013.395 |
| WIU | 4.157 | 5.623 | 11.499 | 278.754 | 391.269 | 3.222.341 |
| PS3 | 866 | 944 | 2.308 | 40.302 | 156.646 | 10.247.043 |
| XB1 | 31 | 40 | 231 | 3.638 | 11.981 | 67.689 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| ALL | 42.060 | 63.481 | 90.217 | 2.721.946 | 3.103.523 | 42.486.431 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
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Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League August 2016 Results
Congratulations to:
- Bruno MB, for winning by units!
- Jarod McChicken, for winning by mean error %!
Ouch at our Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den predictions, the only one who didn't get the maximum penalty (150% error) was Jarod McChicken.
Congratulations to:
- Bruno MB, for winning by units!
- Jarod McChicken, for winning by mean error %!
Code:
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
1 Bruno MB 116.460 1 Jarod McChicken 35,90%
2 Jarod McChicken 157.616 2 Bruno MB 36,81%
3 Aters 177.868 3 Aters 39,71%
4 casiopao 213.878 4 Yeshua 42,19%
5 Eolz 238.606 5 DKHF 45,45%
6 Yeshua 253.878 6 casiopao 45,88%
7 DKHF 262.868 7 Eolz 63,91%
Code:
Famitsu Yeshua DKHF casiopao Aters Eolz Bruno MB Jarod McChicken
[3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions 130.590 70.000 85.000 110.000 95.000 [B]130.000[/B] 115.000 100.000
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth 104.775 120.000 [B]105.000[/B] 135.000 105.000 151.000 110.000 165.000
[PS4] Ratchet & Clank: The Game 30.505 [B]30.000[/B] 35.000 20.000 35.000 62.000 40.000 25.000
[PS4] Tales of Berseria 186.869 220.000 270.000 210.000 220.000 123.000 [B]200.000[/B] 160.000
[PS3] Tales of Berseria 90.704 70.000 65.000 60.000 65.000 44.000 105.000 [B]80.000[/B]
[PS4 + PS3] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den 26.277 150.000 130.000 125.000 105.000 76.000 85.000 [B]50.000[/B]
TOTAL ABS. DIFF. 253.878 262.868 213.878 177.868 238.606 116.460 157.616
MEAN ERROR % 42,19% 45,45% 45,88% 39,71% 63,91% 36,81% 35,90
Code:
STATISTICS FAMITSU GAF_AVG MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[3DS] Dragon Ball: Fusions 130.590 100.714 70.000 130.000 130.000 Eolz
3DS] Etrian Odyssey V: The End of the Long Myth 104.775 127.286 105.000 165.000 105.000 DKHF
[PS4] Ratchet & Clank: The Game 30.505 35.286 20.000 62.000 30.000 Yeshua
[PS4] Tales of Berseria 186.869 200.429 123.000 270.000 200.000 Bruno MB
[PS3] Tales of Berseria 90.704 69.857 44.000 105.000 80.000 Jarod McChicken
[PS4 + PS3] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den 26.277 103.000 50.000 150.000 50.000 Jarod McChickenOuch at our Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den predictions, the only one who didn't get the maximum penalty (150% error) was Jarod McChicken.
Damn I was way off with Tales PS4 and Sengoku Basara. Hopefully I do better with Persona 5.
For 2015
NA
PS4 Tales of Zestiria
~ 87 000
PS3 Tales of Zestiria
~ 16 000
PS3 + PS4 Tales of Zestiria
~ 103 000
EMEA
PS4 Tales of Zestiria
~ 60 000
PS3 Tales of Zestiria
~ 18 000
PS3 + PS4 Tales of Zestiria
~ 78 000
Do note that the NA numbers also include Canada (which should made some extra thousands sales as I remember Canada's numbers usually being 5-15% of US usually)
To give you a rough idea here's the % of NA+EMEA sales coming from France for the following titles
France
GC Tales of Symphonia {2004-11-12}
13%
GBA Tales of Phantasia {2006-03-31}
9% (late release in Europe)
PSP Tales of the World Radiant Mythology {2007-09-07}
9% (english only)
X360 Tales of Vesperia {2009-06-26}
12% (one year delay with NA)
Wii Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World {2009-11-13}
14% (one year delay with NA)
3DS Tales of the Abyss {2011-11-25}
4.5% (english only)
PS3 Tales of Graces F {2012-08-31}
10% (5 months delay with NA)
PS3 Tales of Xillia {2013-08-09}
10%
PS3 Tales of Symphonia Chronicles {2014-02-28}
12%
PS3 Tales of Xillia 2 {2014-08-22}
9%
France mostly has a huge bias towards the Symphonia titles and Vesperia was the one that managed to get the better grasp of that audience. Otherwise Germany UK and France usually have pretty close numbers for the Tales series.
With Steam it did (Xillia is somewhere between 300-350k, Zestiria is >400k)
Symphonia's number (>700k) will probably forever stay out of reach though.
Eolz
Member
Oh god, terrible month for me :O
Actually, that's 20-40%... but yeah, still extremely poor.
Wasn't KoF12/13 expensive as hell because it took forever to make a single character, reason why they went 3D for KoF14. Not sure what the budget was for Kof14 compared to the previous games, they were able to make so many characters in such a short time thanks to going 3D, though the game isn't the greatest looker around.
Sammy Samusu
Member
man, that Federation Force debut is worse than even the worst F-Zero openings.
it's like they wanted to see how low they could make an entry in one of their classic series do. even Pinball and the NPC version of Prime 2 sold a lot more than this.
i went and read the MC topics made around the release of Other M 6 years ago and there were a ton of posts that turned to be super prophetic regarding the series' future. it's scary looking back at those.
Nintendo has pretty much killed interest in any Metroid side game now. the only thing they can do to save the series is do a game like Super or Prime 1 specifically to revive fan interest (kind of like how Disney had to make The Force Awakens seem a lot like the first SW movie to fix the brand's perception).
it's like they wanted to see how low they could make an entry in one of their classic series do. even Pinball and the NPC version of Prime 2 sold a lot more than this.
i went and read the MC topics made around the release of Other M 6 years ago and there were a ton of posts that turned to be super prophetic regarding the series' future. it's scary looking back at those.
Nintendo has pretty much killed interest in any Metroid side game now. the only thing they can do to save the series is do a game like Super or Prime 1 specifically to revive fan interest (kind of like how Disney had to make The Force Awakens seem a lot like the first SW movie to fix the brand's perception).
They'll likely use this failure as justification for killing the series outright, despite no one wanting it. Clear Mismanagement of the brand has basically reduced any and all interest to 0 with Nintendo involved. They have 0 idea what to do with it.
Now you say Awakens, something towards what Fire Emblem Awakening was, would be awesome. An almost-dying franchise now more lively than ever.
Difference is IS had an ultimatum with FE. Sell or die. They looked at it hard, and evolved it. While it took them forever to get to that point, they were still making games for it while sales dwindled. Nintendo hasn't made a Metroid game themselves in 2004, and that was a remake. Their last 2 outings have BOMBED horrifically.
Think about this.
Federation Force is going to sell worse than Other M. What does that tell you?
Eolz
Member
I really doubt it. Apart from your last sentence, but for different reasons. They have zero idea on how to expand the audience for this IP.
That one is a spinoff and one is a main entry?
okay, a more direct comparison
FF is gonna sell worse than Pinball.
spinofff vs spinoff is okay, right?
i guess Zelda fans should be happy they have Aonuma at the helm there. he's a godsend compared to what Metroid got.
also, Zelda is much more resistant to spinoffs since the main games deliver usually.