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[RamzaIsCool]

The trailer should debut at Konami's pre-E3 conference stream next week right?

With the focus on next gen in both the MS and Sony press conferences I reckon you are right! I only expect Kojima to be there if there is a next gen version.

 

[Gouda Jouji]

 

[MormaPope]

Seems Big Boss is going to fight and build his own legacy based on what he wants in the world, versus looking after other people's values. I expect Big boss to end up being a much darker and brooding character by the end of the game.

 

[Order]

These must be Big Boss's motivations, but we must go deeper.

 

[spannicus]

Kojima give me MG for my Vita please.

 

[Izick]

That's not about Big Boss. It's about why Kojima keeps making new MGS games. Not for the future, not for love, but for...

Spoiler

the La Li Lu Le Lo..

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

What are you fighting for!? What was she fighting for!? What am I fighting for!?

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Getting really tired of Kojima's penchant for over-explaining. Did we really need yet another Big Boss game? Peace Walker already made him into a wholly unlikeable bastard - do we really need to explore his psyche and motivations for going bad even more?

I still think the series would be better served by a reboot or an entirely new storyline with a new hero, set in the same universe. All this retconning and over-explaining is just making things too bloated.

 

[GayForMaster]

That whole Sutherland dude replacing Hayter? That's trolljima at work. He obviously asked the sutherland dude if he could use his name as a joke. We should all expect glorious Hayter to voice snake in this game.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Getting really tired of Kojima's penchant for over-explaining. Did we really need yet another Big Boss game? Peace Walker already made him into a wholly unlikeable bastard - do we really need to explore his psyche and motivations for going bad even more?

I still think the series would be better served by a reboot or an entirely new storyline with a new hero, set in the same universe. All this retconning and over-explaining is just making things too bloated.

Watch it turn out that The Phantom Pain is about the long lost fourth clone, Plasma Snake.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

That whole Sutherland dude replacing Hayter? That's trolljima at work. He obviously asked the sutherland dude if he could use his name as a joke. We should all expect glorious Hayter to voice snake in this game.

Why would Kiefer Sutherland, one of the most high-paid and in-demand actors in the business, agree to help a Japanese guy he's never met or likely even heard of before play a joke on video game fans?

That makes no sense at all.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Why would Kiefer Sutherland, one of the most high-paid and in-demand actors in the business, agree to help a Japanese guy he's never met or likely even heard of before play a joke on video game fans?

That makes no sense at all.

Cause Kojima.

 

[GayForMaster]

Why would Kiefer Sutherland, one of the most high-paid and in-demand actors in the business, agree to help a Japanese guy he's never met or likely even heard of before play a joke on video game fans?

That makes no sense at all.

Because Trolljima.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Cause Kojima.

The only people that means anything to are gamers. Sutherland only cares about the paycheck - he's certainly never played any of the games, nor does he give two shits about the series or its fans.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

The only people that means anything to are gamers. Sutherland only cares about the paycheck - he's certainly never played any of the games, nor does he give two shits about the series or its fans.

Because. Kojima.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

...not for honor, but for... someone back me up here.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

...not for honor, but for... someone back me up here.

But for youuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[dukeoflegs]

So underneath "not" is a claw-like hand you would see on a prosthetic arm/hand?

 

[Fox1304]

But for youuuuuuuuuuuu

I'm stiiiiiiiillll in a dreaaaaaaaammmm

 

[Speedwagon]

So underneath "not" is a claw-like hand you would see on a prosthetic arm/hand?

Yeah. The hand above it looks like it's holding a pistol. Big Boss confirmed.

 

[Fimbulvetr]

I'm stiiiiiiiillll in a dreaaaaaaaammmm

Wait a sec. Snake totally is!

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I'm stiiiiiiiillll in a dreaaaaaaaammmm

SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATER

 

[Mikey Jr.]

That whole Sutherland dude replacing Hayter? That's trolljima at work. He obviously asked the sutherland dude if he could use his name as a joke. We should all expect glorious Hayter to voice snake in this game.

Said it once and I'll say it again. Solid Snake will most likely show up in MGSV.

Now, you can not have Hayter voice Boss and Solid, especially if they are speaking to each other. So Hayter is in the game, as Solid Snake, but not Big Boss.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

Said it once and I'll say it again. Solid Snake will most likely show up in MGSV.

Now, you can not have Hayter voice Boss and Solid, especially if they are speaking to each other. So Hayter is in the game, as Solid Snake, but not Big Boss.

But doesn't MGS5 take place right after Peace Walker? Snake would be way too young to be voiced by Hayter.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

But doesn't MGS5 take place right after Peace Walker? Snake would be way too young to be voiced by Hayter.

He'll quit smoking cigarettes for a few months.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

He'll quit smoking cigarettes for a few months.

Snake is about 7 years old or so during PW, isn't he? I think he'd have to START smoking in order to be voiced by DH at that age.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Snake is about 7 years old or so during PW, isn't he? I think he'd have to START smoking in order to be voiced by DH at that age.

David Hayter will voice seven year old Snake using Old Snake voice, and you will all love and accept it, no problem.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

But doesn't MGS5 take place right after Peace Walker? Snake would be way too young to be voiced by Hayter.

The Phantom Pain takes place 9 years later while Boss is in a coma.

Add in Solid's advanced aging, and you could have a teenager Snake.

I think Hayter could pull that off.

 

[SolidusDave]

The Phantom Pain takes place 9 years later while Boss is in a coma.

Add in Solid's advanced aging, and you could have a teenager Snake.

I think Hayter could pull that off.

I think Solid wasn't actually growing up faster than a normal human though.
They just gave him an expiration date basically, to have further control (they could just make new clones). After a certain time he ages rapidly to die off.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

I think Solid wasn't actually growing up faster than a normal human though.
They just gave him an expiration date basically, to have further control (they could just make new clones). After a certain time he ages rapidly to die off.

That was the impression I got as well. Snake didn't know he was a clone - if he was aging super-rapidly even as a child, he would've known something was up. He definitely aged at a normal speed until his clone body started breaking down. Then the acceleration kicked in, and he ended up how he was in MGS4.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Ohhh, ok. Then I dont fucking know, haha.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Solid could appear in a post credits scene and I'm sure most people would be extremely happy with just that.

If he does show up in the game proper - we don't know the time span of The Phantom Pain - it will be everything we could ask for, and more.

I also can't wait to see Big Boss turn into a complete villain. E3 can't come soon enough... or maybe we'll see everything at the Konami conference. That's fine, too!

 

[BadAss2961]

Getting really tired of Kojima's penchant for over-explaining. Did we really need yet another Big Boss game? Peace Walker already made him into a wholly unlikeable bastard - do we really need to explore his psyche and motivations for going bad even more?

I still think the series would be better served by a reboot or an entirely new storyline with a new hero, set in the same universe. All this retconning and over-explaining is just making things too bloated.

Totally agreed.

But oh well... This game is still going to be something else. Every numbered MGS has been.

 

[Batzi]

Kojima is teasing the theme of MGSV.

4 letter word that ends with 'e' which is not "love", "hate" or "fate".

If we do the maths:

26x26x26x1 - 3 = 17573 possible combinations. Of course not all of them are english words.

I wrote a program in java that filters out the non-english words using a wordlist of 40000-50000 words and the final list of english words composed of 4 letters ending with 'e' turned out to be much smaller in size which narrowed down the possibilities to 372 words in total.

Here's the list of possible candidates for MGSV's theme:

brae, babe, abbe, hebe, gibe, jibe, lobe, robe, cube, rube, tube, face, lace, mace, pace, race, dice, lice, mice, nice, rice, vice, once, bade, dade, fade, jade, made, vade, wade, cede, aide, bide, fide, hide, ride, side, tide, vide, wide, bode, code, mode, node, rode, jude, nude, rude, hyde, ieee, agee, thee, whee, flee, glee, knee, free, tree, cafe, safe, fife, life, rife, wife, cage, gage, page, rage, sage, wage, edge, doge, loge, urge, huge, luge, ache, brie, erie, bake, cake, fake, jake, jake, lake, make, rake, sake, take, wake, bike, hike, like, mike, pike, coke, joke, poke, woke, yoke, duke, juke, luke, luke, puke, dyke, tyke, bale, dale, gale, hale, kale, male, pale, sale, tale, vale, wale, yale, able, idle, ogle, aile, bile, file, mile, nile, pile, tile, vile, wile, bole, cole, dole, hole, mole, pole, role, sole, vole, isle, mule, rule, yule, axle, kyle, lyle, pyle, came, dame, fame, game, lame, name, same, tame, acme, dime, lime, rime, time, come, dome, home, lome, rome, some, tome, fume, bane, cane, dane, jane, kane, lane, mane, pane, sane, vane, wane, gene, rene, dine, fine, line, mine, nine, pine, sine, tine, vine, wine, anne, bone, cone, done, gone, hone, lone, none, tone, zone, dune, june, rune, tune, dyne, oboe, shoe, aloe, floe, sloe, cape, gape, nape, rape, tape, pipe, ripe, wipe, cope, dope, hope, lope, pope, rope, dupe, type, bare, care, dare, fare, hare, mare, pare, rare, ware, acre, here, mere, were, ogre, dire, eire, fire, hire, mire, sire, tire, wire, bore, core, fore, gore, lore, more, pore, sore, tore, wore, yore, cure, jure, lure, pure, sure, lyre, pyre, base, case, ease, lase, vase, lise, rise, vise, wise, else, bose, dose, hose, jose, lose, nose, pose, rose, apse, fuse, muse, ruse, bate, date, fate, gate, hate, kate, late, mate, nate, pate, rate, tate, fete, mete, pete, tete, bite, cite, kite, mite, rite, site, ante, dote, note, rote, tote, vote, cute, jute, lute, mute, byte, laue, ague, blue, clue, flue, glue, true, cave, dave, eave, gave, have, nave, pave, rave, save, wave, neve, dive, five, give, hive, jive, live, wive, cove, dove, hove, jove, love, move, rove, wove, howe, lowe, rowe, luxe, skye, frye, daze, faze, gaze, haze, laze, maze, raze, size, doze, ooze

 

[Superior]

Nvm.

 

[Batzi]

I think we found our winner.

a possibility yes. Almost everything related to The Phantom Pain project was a ruse from the Moby Dick Studio ruse to David's voice not to mention the title itself(Phantom Pain) is a form of deception our minds play on us. A synonym for deception? Ruse. I have written something about that theme back in April over at the IGN boards, here's a detailed explanation of the theme: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/gene-meme-scene-sense-peace.452658443/page-2#post-472350428

 

[DrPirate]

Please don't crucify me if I'm late on this, I went all the way back to page 74 to check on this.

David Hayter just tweeted:

https://twitter.com/DavidBHayter

David Hayter ‏@DavidBHayter 10h
I'm so excited for E3!

I just hope I don't lose my voice.

;-)

Troljima confirmed imo.

 

[Åesop]

Its either "ruse" or "hate"

 

[Nibel]

Or Pain

 

[Slime]

Already posted this in the other thread, but my guess is "Home." Game starts with Big Boss losing it (Mother Base), and ends with him finding it again (Outer Heaven). Or something.

 

[Hasney]

Or Pain

Ends in e.

There was a a horse in the traile. IT COULD BE MARE.

 

[raven777]

Already posted this in the other thread, but my guess is "Home." Game starts with Big Boss losing it (Mother Base), and ends with him finding it again (Outer Heaven). Or something.

yea I think Home is a good one.

 

[Akibastman]

It's ooze. And it'd a soon to be announced MGSxTMNT crossover.

 

[Callibretto]

Home, at the end of phantom pain trailer, they said "Diamond Dogs, our new home"

 

[angular graphics]

It's ogre

 

[Speedwagon]

I think it's pace.

 

[Drencrom]

Kojima is teasing the theme of MGSV.

4 letter word that ends with 'e' which is not "love", "hate" or "fate".

If we do the maths:

26x26x26x1 - 3 = 17573 possible combinations. Of course not all of them are english words.

I wrote a program in java that filters out the non-english words using a wordlist of 40000-50000 words and the final list of english words composed of 4 letters ending with 'e' turned out to be much smaller in size which narrowed down the possibilities to 372 words in total.

Here's the list of possible candidates for MGSV's theme:

V has

Spoiler

come

too

 

[Nibel]

Ends in e.

There was a a horse in the traile. IT COULD BE MARE.

That's what he wants you guys to think

 

[Erigu]

Snake is about 7 years old or so during PW, isn't he?

No, he's 2.

4 letter word that ends with 'e' which is not "love", "hate" or "fate".

"Cake", obviously.

Spoiler

"Life"?

 

[Solidino]

Or Pain

yep, just like MGS4, a pain in the ass.