Sectorseven
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Can this and an Oculus style VR coexist?
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Microsoft reveals Augmented Reality kit, presumably for Xbox One
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For what it's doing right now, it looks awesome. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be doing a ton of environment mapping, just rudimentary stuff.
But as a floating projecting screen - essentially holograms - this is a cool first step.
They are different sides of the same coin, eventually they will converge into one product in the future.
ZeroGravity
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It really doesn't look awesome, at all. It's still primitive and not want people want and/or need.
funkystudent
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It looks like something I would see on Kickstarter a year ago during the Oculus and Google Glass hype.
outunderthestars
Banned
Anyone who remembers the original Kinect demo will immediately see this as bullshit.
Floating, perspective corrected 3D objects abstracted into reality isn't what people want? Considering the billions of people who will stare at essentially a picture frame across the room, I'd say that doesn't sound very founded.
In home theater alone this would be desirable - the ability to create 100" floating screens that follow you if you'd like.
Oh thats right - you go immediatly to Rev 15 of a product.
Why the fuck did they waste all their time on prop planes when they could have just built jet fighters.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
here I am
abstract over doesn't make sense to me. You abstract from. Unless you mean it in the programming language sense of parametrizing but then I still don't think it makes much sense. AR is superimposing a VR layer on top of the world. Given that MS wants you to be able to interact with it, Mixed Reality is probably the better term.
Iced_Eagle
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Wired has exclusive hands on already!
http://www.wired.com/2015/01/microsoft-hands-on/?mbid=social_twitter
http://www.wired.com/2015/01/microsoft-hands-on/?mbid=social_twitter
This isn't bullshit, this stuff has been demonstrable for years now.
Doug Heffernan
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Satya just (sort of) confirmed AR Minecraft.
"abstract over" means the exact same thing as "superimpose."
How embarrassing, I was looking at the image on my tablet with the brightness turned down and didn't see it. There's a controller next to it, too.
Alx
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Definitely cool. Really excited to get my hands on that. The device itself is a bit bulky, but that's expected. Tracking isn't perfect of course (but it never is) and I noticed everybody was cautious to move slowly, even in th concept video. But the whole thing is completely functional. I'm impressed, MS.
Videoconference with Kinect-scanned people will be impressive.
If they used IR cameras with integrated lighting, or Kinect-like sensors, you shouldn't need a well lit space.
Videoconference with Kinect-scanned people will be impressive.
If they used IR cameras with integrated lighting, or Kinect-like sensors, you shouldn't need a well lit space.
Neuromancer
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I would probably agree except people have already gone hands on with the device and it sounds great.
http://www.wired.com/2015/01/microsoft-hands-on/
stan423321
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...I actually may want this thing.
How pricey could it be? And could it work as a non-immersible Oculus alternative?
How pricey could it be? And could it work as a non-immersible Oculus alternative?
cartoon_soldier
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Live Demo screencaps
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Just let them
if they can't imagine how this will work, it's fine, just let them. this is the first step to Star Trek HOLOGRAMS, and MS is in front.Its a far better tech for gaming than VR fyi
Samurai G0SU
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Im excited for the future of technology. Thanks MS.
Thanks MS.Well, I don't know about in front. Google has shipped thousands of glass kits already, and CastAR is ready to ship.
I can see it working fantastic for music production software, huge sequencer over to the left, synthesiser/ drum machines and samplers over on the right, drag and drop.
I hate trying to find screen real estate, or the window manoeuvres that are fully needed for optimal creativity.
Sounds cool.
That's what I been saying. I would rather have Mixed Reality than VR.
Smiles and Cries
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it is cool AR but really hate the way they presented it because I feel slimy for some reason
I don't believe
I don't believe
+1 to you, Krej! Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. Why so much hate about AR? I really liked what the 3DS introduced. Very interesting tech when it's taken to the next level. Having Bowser coming out of my coffee table the first time was priceless.
It's Microsoft we're talking about here. They'll make them want it.
Samurai G0SU
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OMg, just through about having SMART SCOPE as a hologram.
No that's apple. I don't think microsoft has ever successfully made consumers want it.
Sectorseven
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But in the mean time will there be enough market to support both, or does one have to fail for the other to succeed?
Quite arguable.
Interesting, but MS seems to do a bit of these endeavors with no clear goal.
Cool does not equate to practical or successful.
Cool does not equate to practical or successful.
Of course it is a buzzword but SIIIIGH! You do know there are more kinds of computing than just the stuff we use in Daily life right?
Yes HPU is a buzzword, but basically they mean a real time proof processing unit. This doesn't mean it is done right away, but that you can predict when the processing of the information from the sensors is ready.
No, that doesn't mean that "the more parallel the better", it means that it is okay if it takes 15 minutes for some things... as long as it EXACTLY takes 15 minutes (no more no less, as little jitter as possible) so you can use it at that time. So yes of course HPU is a buzzword, but there is more than just your PS4/PC in the world. And I think especially the medical industry will be really interested in this thing.
I think they'll both evolve alongside each other. I can see VR being more immediately ready for prime time, however, given that AR does more in general.
ALLseeingEYE
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http://vrfocus.com/archives/10844/microsoft-reveals-augmented-reality-hmd-suggests-xbox-one-support/
Not really a lot of new information for those who have been following this - this is Fortaleza - but the image is new.
It's not technically an 'Augmented Reality Kit', it's a "Holographic Computer".
I'm not sure how much application this has for X1, but the glasses have an entire computer built within, what sounds like positional (surround sound?) audio, and includes what I assume is some advanced Kinect technology, that tracks your hands when you look at them, so you can interact with the scenery.
For example, it seems to uses a completely Holographic OS, and you can build and walk around objects in complete 3D.
This seems similar to VR, but honestly, I think this is actually pretty exciting tech. Possible the first exciting example of AR I've seen. I wonder how powerful the built-in PC is though, and how much this will cost?
I'm actually interested in your reasoning here. AR is going to have amazing applications, but it seems much less tailored to games than VR.
MeatloafOFdoom
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Just let them
Do you have proof MS is in front? I bet they are not even though they are demoing it.
Chobel
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How so? In VR you can create any kind of world/environment you want so the possibilities for gaming is endless, in AR you restricted to real world.
This hasn't been done before as far as I am aware, they are in the front and everything without wires, it seems.
GLASS is s small rectangle in the corner of your eye. (1 eye) this is augmenting your / our reality.
loaf of bread
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This is wrong on so many levels that I'm not going to even start. Maybe in 10 years playing in an empty warehouse.