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Caayn

Caayn

Member
Deku Tree said:
Until webm files can be embedded into safari on iOS then I will prefer GIFs.
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Replace safari with pratically every mobile browser. Heck even my desktop browser (opera) doesn't have it. Webm looks nice and promising but it's not ready yet.
 
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Durante

Member
Gattsu25 said:
APNG would have never worked due to the 30+MB file size for images due to every frame effectively being an "I-frame".
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Alo81 said:
I don't think APNG is really viable with current internet situations. The files are way too big to be worthwhile. I really think WebM is a better substitute, provided we end up having good hosting options.
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APNG is an animated gif replacement. It already works and does a good job at it.

The fact that most of the uses of animated gifs on a forum like gaf are better served by a video format doesn't change that -- we should have both.
 
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Zantetsuken88

Member
RoboPlato said:
How do you disable autoplay on OSX with the Chrome Extension?
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If you go to Chrome, Preferences - then a settings tab will open. From here go to Extensions, WebM for Neogaf - then click options. Another new tab will open and will show you the video start options amongst others.

Hope this helps.
 
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MilkBeard

Member
Cool, I just enabled the Neogaf extension that enables the webm loops in chrome. I was wondering why I was just seeing links before that didn't work, ha ha.

They look pretty cool, although I don't see them as being so much better than gifs at this point. Maybe it's because there were so many on the same page which was causing slowdown. However, they did seem to load faster than gifs, and they looked cleaner.
 
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Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
Durante said:
APNG is an animated gif replacement. It already works and does a good job at it.

The fact that most of the uses of animated gifs on a forum like gaf are better served by a video format doesn't change that -- we should have both.
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It's technically a competent replacement but in reality isn't going to be as worthwhile because of the huge file sizes.

If you're using it for animated emoticons it's probably great, or really short moving images of some kind, but GIFs have a much wider range of applications and a huge range of those applications stress APNG in a way that makes it unrealistic to use practically.

I'm not saying it isn't capable of displaying moving images well, I just don't think it's practical for a lot of applications where one might want moving images.
 
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Zantetsuken88

Member
MilkBeard said:
Cool, I just enabled the Neogaf extension that enables the webm loops in chrome. I was wondering why I was just seeing links before that didn't work, ha ha.

They look pretty cool, although I don't see them as being so much better than gifs at this point. Maybe it's because there were so many on the same page which was causing slowdown. However, they did seem to load faster than gifs, and they looked cleaner.
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Change your extension settings so that they play when you click or hover. You should be seeing them in 60fps in most case - looking ridiculously smooth. If that's not happening, then your computer probably can't handle loading them all at once.
 
T

tatsuki

Member
fasTRapid said:
Why are you bringing this filthy gif into the holy halls of WebM church?
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ffef.gif


rude

I've had some fun messing around with webm the past few days. I still prefer making gifs though.
 
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Data Elemental

Member
shamo42 said:
At about 10x smaller file sizes I doubt that. Also on android I can view webm in MXplayer --> hardware accelerated.
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Filesize doesn't say much about decoding complexity, which definitely is much, much higher for VP8, when compared to GIF. If you have a VP8 hardware decoder, you're lucky. I can't find any numbers on how common those are these days.
 
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Herne

Member
Schrade said:
Cyberfox 28 is the latest version. Firefox only recently added support for VP9 in Firefox so you want to upgrade your Cyberfox.

For those that run Pale Moon, it hasn't been updated yet to support VP9.
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Damn, I'm much further behind than I thought. Cheers Schrade, will update asap :)

Edit - And sorted. Thanks again!
 
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Gbraga

Member
leonemesis said:
Two more, now off Nier trailer, it's not a great choice "graphics-wise", but since we can have audio, it's nice (and I love the game, so reasons)

Decided to do it 480p - 3Mb bitrate limit - with audio

http://a.pomf.se/jkdpcx.webm
6.96MB size

http://a.pomf.se/uhjdiv.webm
2.68MB size

First one is fairly large for this size, but I guess audio is the main culprit
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Dude, those are amazing! Worth installing the extension just to have some Nier webms with audio!
 
Z

Zing

Banned
Strange that webm has suddenly caught on after being around for years. It's going to annoy a lot of people, myself included, since it will never be supported on iOS Safari.
 
cjp

cjp

Junior Member
Any decent plug in been released for Safari yet?

Tried Perian and although it works, it's kind of clunky. No in page display, have to be opened in a separate tab etc.
 
cjp

cjp

Junior Member
As a side note, although you can't display them inline in mobile Safari, you can install VLC and open them that way.

Better than nothing.

YhBsel7.jpg


...and it also has a nice little playback speed control.

Ipyoue2.jpg


Great for
game
webms.
 
B

Brerlappin

Member
Are we getting a dedicated game webm thread?

Ive done a few game ones so far

Zeno Clash

http://www.webbims.com/uploads/xx3dmikuv.webm

http://www.webbims.com/uploads/65rfgpwa1j.webm

(the webbims.com url was setup by a fellow forumite on grcade.co.uk, specifically for webm's, it seems like a good site so far)

Killing Floor

http://a.pomf.se/gesviv.webm

http://a.pomf.se/ibhuhr.webm

Metro 2033

http://a.pomf.se/vqsbio.webm

http://a.pomf.se/tigwyh.webm

Metro: LL

http://a.pomf.se/unuctv.webm

http://a.pomf.se/dbrbsx.webm

http://a.pomf.se/csvmgi.webm

http://a.pomf.se/jbfaqm.webm

Skyrim

http://a.pomf.se/zvlwsw.webm

http://a.pomf.se/jivjdy.webm

Black Mesa: Source

http://a.pomf.se/ptramc.webm
 
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leonemesis

Member
Haven't done any in a while, was attending other stuff, gonna try that method posted by ScepticMatt last page.

I had uploaded this but did not post, interesting thing about this one was the resolution, first I did this one at 720p and size was 8.34MB, then tried it again at 480p and it turned out 7.40MB, both have the same overall bitrate.

Might be the source video's fault though, I was trying to find some decent videos of SMT games but only had this one P4 Arena off gametrailers to work with

http://a.pomf.se/uxjjqa.webm
 
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ScepticMatt

Member
leonemesis said:
I had uploaded this but did not post, interesting thing about this one was the resolution, first I did this one at 720p and size was 8.34MB, then tried it again at 480p and it turned out 7.40MB, both have the same overall bitrate.
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If they both have the same target bitrate, they will be roughly the same size. But the 480p version will have much better quality.
You can just decrease the target bitrate for 480p and you should be good to go.
 
UnrealEck

UnrealEck

Member
I played every single video on this page, including quoted repeats and got my CPU to 85%.

Fact of the day: Did you know that 99% of Skyrim with ENB screenshots and videos showing the player's character feature a beauty pageant contestant or fashion model?
 
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