Guess I'm never going to beat Witcher3, MGS5 or Fallout 4...ever.
One question I have - new to the Souls genre with BB which I loved and still play months after Platinum-ing it...I have immersed myself in the lore and enjoy reading the theories here or on reddit or even in the Official Guides.
Is there a similar lore story to the DS universe? Where can I read up on it all prior to DS3. At the moment I'm about 10% of the way through SOTFS (havent played DS1) and its a bit confusing re. overall storyline and lore of this world.
Any help apprecaited for a Hunter.
Guess I'm never going to beat Witcher3, MGS5 or Fallout 4...ever.
One question I have - new to the Souls genre with BB which I loved and still play months after Platinum-ing it...I have immersed myself in the lore and enjoy reading the theories here or on reddit or even in the Official Guides.
Is there a similar lore story to the DS universe? Where can I read up on it all prior to DS3. At the moment I'm about 10% of the way through SOTFS (havent played DS1) and its a bit confusing re. overall storyline and lore of this world.
Any help apprecaited for a Hunter.
Can't wait for the character creator
Im so glad DS3 is going back to the more realistic looking approach for weapon sizes.
Guess I'm never going to beat Witcher3, MGS5 or Fallout 4...ever.
One question I have - new to the Souls genre with BB which I loved and still play months after Platinum-ing it...I have immersed myself in the lore and enjoy reading the theories here or on reddit or even in the Official Guides.
Is there a similar lore story to the DS universe? Where can I read up on it all prior to DS3. At the moment I'm about 10% of the way through SOTFS (havent played DS1) and its a bit confusing re. overall storyline and lore of this world.
Any help apprecaited for a Hunter.
Let's not act like DaS1 didn't have huge weapons that made no sense.
So realistic.
Everyone knows the only way to play Dark Souls is with a Greatsword.
More akin to "a heap of raw iron" than a sword I suppose.
Let's not act like DaS1 didn't have huge weapons that made no sense.
So realistic.
Excuse my bias is showing. I should have said Greatsword in particular.
Excuse my bias is showing. I should have said Greatsword in particular.
Please tell me that's a photoshop.Can't wait for the character creator
I am kinda glad that they reverted the Greatsword back to DkS 1's size.
So, I was thinking back on the Network Test and if any of this new info we got could tie into that and help me understand it a little bit better.
I know it's futile to talk about lore this early, without even playing the game, but I just can't help it, I'm too excited!
I'll put it in spoiler tags, so people who dislike baseless speculation (I don't blame you, I don't like it either) can just skip it.
Ok.
So, during the network test, there were messages in a tombstone kind of thing, pretty much the Dark Souls III version of Bloodborne's lore notes. One in particular reads:
"Fear the sun's temptations, and the winged executioner."
While playing, I assumed it wasn't being said to the player, but instead we were just discovering a message that was meant to someone else, some unknown figure that we'd get to know about during the full game.
The reason for me to completely dismiss it being said to us was basically "What could possibly be tempting about the sun for us?". Not only human, but a Dark Hero on a quest to kill the resurrected Lords of Cinder, and to destroy the Heirs of Fire. I couldn't see what would be the sun's temptations.
But now, in this last batch of informations and screenshots, we have Ludleth of Courland, a self proclaimed Lord of Cinder. How exactly that works, I have no idea, but that's what made me think about this whole thing. For him to be a self proclaimed Lord of Cinder, clearly that means there is some benefit to being one of them. Unlike what Dark Souls made us think, being a Lord of Cinder is more than just being a hollowed carcass of your former self. The most obvious reason to drive men to seek it would be power, I suppose. Linking the flame doesn't only extend the Age of Fire, but also makes you one of "the God Hand", it makes you a powerful Lord of Cinder.
So, even if one doesn't allign with the gods, hell, even if the gods are no more in this world, the power you can achieve by becoming a Lord of Cinder is still enough reason to drive people to link the flame. That would be the sun's temptation.
Which naturally leads us to the ending. They could actually offer us very similar choices to the ones we had in the first game, but presented in completely opposite ways. We know that there is no good and bad ending in Dark Souls, and it's up to interpretation, but the way the game presents both choices in context is clearly Link the Fire = Preservation of Lordran and Dark Lord = Selfish choice for power. By having us as Dark Heroes, hunting down the Lords of Cinder, perhaps even with the task of putting off the First Flame for good this time, finally starting the real age of men, they could offer us the choice of actively putting the fire off, "for the greater good", or linking the flame, despite what our entire journey lead us to believe was the right choice, in search for power. To make ourselves a new (and now probably only) Lord of Cinder.
Again, as I said, baseless speculation that will likely be 120% wrong once the game comes out, but I was thinking about this on my way home from work, and I needed to talk about it. I NEED THIS GAME NOW.
People will tell you to watch VaatiVidya. He's very good at telling stories around the characters within the game, but sometimes takes liberties which arent supported within the game.
Personally I would suggest EpicNameBro. His videos arent as production heavy as Vaati's however he's worked on the guides and when he goes into lore its more often than not based on info found within the game. His older Dark Souls playthroughs are great listens/watch while playing something else.
Even better than all that is playing Ds1 for yourself and seeing what you can piece together on your own.
Guess I'm never going to beat Witcher3, MGS5 or Fallout 4...ever.
One question I have - new to the Souls genre with BB which I loved and still play months after Platinum-ing it...I have immersed myself in the lore and enjoy reading the theories here or on reddit or even in the Official Guides.
Is there a similar lore story to the DS universe? Where can I read up on it all prior to DS3. At the moment I'm about 10% of the way through SOTFS (havent played DS1) and its a bit confusing re. overall storyline and lore of this world.
Any help apprecaited for a Hunter.
I also just really didn't like the way heavy weapons handled in DS2.
That's some juicy speculation! I like reading how people prepare their minds for these games. Can't wait for everyone to get their hands on it.
The lock-on with str weapons is terrible in 2; you can end up completely missing to the right or the left, especially when you one-hand.
Just give me a Claymore and a Longsword.
Wow. Cannot wait.
Is that last image basically a shoggoth popping out of a set of armor?
Lovecraft and Bloodborne in my Dark Souls. YESSS MMMM.
I gotta agree, I think DS greatswords are so much cooler than those in DS2.
That one right there, that's my fave.
I also just really didn't like the way heavy weapons handled in DS2.
You can't say absolutely anything? Not even how you rank them after playing 3 or something like that?
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Well, we did have the Xanthous King Jeremiah in Dark 1
I think ranking the games would do them a disservice. They each have their own facets that make them unique and interesting in their own ways.
However, I get the feeling that, particularly in terms of lore, if you're one of those people who was disappointed with Dark 2 for whatever reason, you may find yourself won back this time.
Not sure what you're getting at. Xanthous is just an archaic (and very cool) word for "yellow".
I think ranking the games would do them a disservice. They each have their own facets that make them unique and interesting in their own ways.
However, I get the feeling that, particularly in terms of lore, if you're one of those people who was disappointed with Dark 2 for whatever reason, you may find yourself won back this time.
Not sure what you're getting at. Xanthous is just an archaic (and very cool) word for "yellow".
i find it hilarious that people are taking these screenshots at face value after the pre ds2 screenshot/video fiasco.
You make it sound like people disliking DS2 is baffling, I liked that game alot, but it's not a Miyazaki game and the lack of usual direction and polish in every aspect really shows that, that game deserves to be harshly critized because it's the 3rd Souls game and without Miyazaki they couldn't get it right.However, I get the feeling that, particularly in terms of lore, if you're one of those people who was disappointed with Dark 2 for whatever reason, you may find yourself won back this time.
Entirely different situation.i find it hilarious that people are taking these screenshots at face value after the pre ds2 screenshot/video fiasco.
However, I get the feeling that, particularly in terms of lore, if you're one of those people who was disappointed with Dark 2 for whatever reason, you may find yourself won back this time.
i find it hilarious that people are taking these screenshots at face value after the pre ds2 screenshot/video fiasco.
Love the design of this enemy, very cool.
Love the design of this enemy, very cool.
Screenshots look amazing. Beyond hyped for DS3. I'm surprised people are saying the engine is showing it's age, I think it looks amazing, especially in motion. Bloodborne was a phenomenal looking game. Clearly not attributed to amazing, high resolution textures, which seems to be all some people care about. I know I'll be hitting the F12 button taking screenshots of DS3 non-stop.
Exactly!
You make it sound like people disliking DS2 is baffling, I liked that game alot, but it's not a Miyazaki game and the lack of usual direction and polish in every aspect really shows that, that game deserves to be harshly critized because it's the 3rd Souls game and without Miyazaki they couldn't get it right.
I may be one of the few people that enjoyed DS2 lore but i admit some of it was just there for the sake of being mysterious and adds nothing to the overall storyline. (Darklurker being a prime example of what i'm talking about). Glad to know this apparently won't happen in DS3.
Let's not act like DaS1 didn't have huge weapons that made no sense.
So realistic.
So, I was thinking back on the Network Test and if any of this new info we got could tie into that and help me understand it a little bit better.
I know it's futile to talk about lore this early, without even playing the game, but I just can't help it, I'm too excited!
I'll put it in spoiler tags, so people who dislike baseless speculation (I don't blame you, I don't like it either) can just skip it.
Ok.
So, during the network test, there were messages in a tombstone kind of thing, pretty much the Dark Souls III version of Bloodborne's lore notes. One in particular reads:
"Fear the sun's temptations, and the winged executioner."
While playing, I assumed it wasn't being said to the player, but instead we were just discovering a message that was meant to someone else, some unknown figure that we'd get to know about during the full game.
The reason for me to completely dismiss it being said to us was basically "What could possibly be tempting about the sun for us?". Not only human, but a Dark Hero on a quest to kill the resurrected Lords of Cinder, and to destroy the Heirs of Fire. I couldn't see what would be the sun's temptations.
But now, in this last batch of informations and screenshots, we have Ludleth of Courland, a self proclaimed Lord of Cinder. How exactly that works, I have no idea, but that's what made me think about this whole thing. For him to be a self proclaimed Lord of Cinder, clearly that means there is some benefit to being one of them. Unlike what Dark Souls made us think, being a Lord of Cinder is more than just being a hollowed carcass of your former self. The most obvious reason to drive men to seek it would be power, I suppose. Linking the flame doesn't only extend the Age of Fire, but also makes you one of "the God Hand", it makes you a powerful Lord of Cinder.
So, even if one doesn't allign with the gods, hell, even if the gods are no more in this world, the power you can achieve by becoming a Lord of Cinder is still enough reason to drive people to link the flame. That would be the sun's temptation.
Which naturally leads us to the ending. They could actually offer us very similar choices to the ones we had in the first game, but presented in completely opposite ways. We know that there is no good and bad ending in Dark Souls, and it's up to interpretation, but the way the game presents both choices in context is clearly Link the Fire = Preservation of Lordran and Dark Lord = Selfish choice for power. By having us as Dark Heroes, hunting down the Lords of Cinder, perhaps even with the task of putting off the First Flame for good this time, finally starting the real age of men, they could offer us the choice of actively putting the fire off, "for the greater good", or linking the flame, despite what our entire journey lead us to believe was the right choice, in search for power. To make ourselves a new (and now probably only) Lord of Cinder.
Again, as I said, baseless speculation that will likely be 120% wrong once the game comes out, but I was thinking about this on my way home from work, and I needed to talk about it. I NEED THIS GAME NOW.
I may be one of the few people that enjoyed DS2 lore but i admit some of it was just there for the sake of being mysterious and adds nothing to the overall storyline. (Darklurker being a prime example of what i'm talking about). Glad to know this apparently won't happen in DS3.
Is there a similar lore story to the DS universe? Where can I read up on it all prior to DS3. At the moment I'm about 10% of the way through SOTFS (havent played DS1) and its a bit confusing re. overall storyline and lore of this world.
Any help apprecaited for a Hunter.
However, I get the feeling that, particularly in terms of lore, if you're one of those people who was disappointed with Dark 2 for whatever reason, you may find yourself won back this time.
What if I liked 2 too?
Whatever, I know I'm gonna love 3 whatever they do. I'm easy to please when it comes to more Souls.