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Poe's law at work.
Vince DiCola
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Epic Name Bro's latest Dark Souls playthrough is great. It's called From the Dark and is a thorough and considered journey, showcasing many different builds and approaches to encounters as well as a careful look at the lore and stories in game.
AKA Dark Souls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_in_Yellow
I'll have to stock on coffee when this game comes out.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Needs better organization in general. The lack of organization and multi-select really hinders your ability to manage (read: sort through and get rid of) Blood Gems.
JadedWriter
Member
He needs to do another Demons Souls run and actually beat the fucking game so the world might be mended.
Yes, I think it has been confirmed.
I don't think DS2 used the same engine as Demon's/Dark 1 though.
I've been trying to find a source but haven't been successful.
and yeah, DS2 does use a different engine than Dark Souls.
Just finished all the trophies for the Bloodborne DLC, I am so ready for this game!
I really wish there was a boss fight in these games that was so crazy and OP (lorewise) that u must summon ppl just to stand a chance...It doesn't need to have a gimmick requiring multiple ppl, but I would love to see what From could do with the idea.
I really wish there was a boss fight in these games that was so crazy and OP (lorewise) that u must summon ppl just to stand a chance...It doesn't need to have a gimmick requiring multiple ppl, but I would love to see what From could do with the idea.
xxRONN1Nxx
Member
I'm 1 trophy away from platinum in SOtFS and I got platinum on BB at release. Played DK1 just no platinum. Dam April can't get here fast enough
Kyleripman
Member
This seems like the most recent DS3 thread. Has there been a US announcement of any kind of collector's version for PC?
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
I dont believe so.
Kyleripman
Member
That's what I figured...kinda hoping for a physical release to go alongside my DS1 and 2 copies though.
I see! Interesting link. It's perfectly plausible, seeing as we know how much Miyazaki loves his (old horror/fantasy) reading.
fluffydelusions
Member
60fps all day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skGtbjWaXTQ
New video by Vaati, going over the new info. Nothing new, but it's nice to have it all in one place.
New video by Vaati, going over the new info. Nothing new, but it's nice to have it all in one place.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
...whatever you want it to be and/or whatever your hardware can do?
I don't think it'll have a cap like Dark Souls 1.
I'm so torn on Vaati's coverge.
On one hand, his videos have high production values, and he puts a lot of effort into making himself clear and understood. But on the other, he seems to embody the industry reporting standard of simply regurgitating information and posing basic questions that don't really amount to anything.
Even this simple video, showcasing a bunch of stuff that's recently been released on official sites, etc. is peppered with little inconsistencies. His attempts to pick apart the Japanese are particularly cringeworthy, especially when he tries to renounce established terms and lore.
For example, "Ludleth of Courland is a self-proclaimed Lord of Cinder". This is a simple sentence, providing us a new character, new location, and affirming the idea that there are multiple Lords of Cinder. This is plenty of food for thought in and of itself.
When Vaati says stuff like "Courland Ludres(th) proclaims himself the King of Kindling", it's just misleading and frustrating. It's like he doesn't respect what the localisation team have been doing since Dark 1, and he doesn't seem to appreciate that these are terms and concepts that have been given the green light by publishers and marketers of the game.
Also little nuggets of wisdom like "if the character weren't wearing plate armour, I'd think this was Bloodborne". Yeah, thanks for that. Keep fanning those flames of ignorance.
-_- Ugh. Sorry for the outburst. I know he's just one guy giving his fanbase what they want, but sometimes the discrepancies and "need for attention" with baseless observations get to me.
Secret Owl
Neo Member
Art direction is hitting it's mark, but it may be time to update the engine. This looks about on par with Bloodborne, which also had great art.
DAMN! Those new screens looking thick, solid and tight. Will probably have a new job around the release week so I may be pushing my luck asking for a day or 2 off to binge.
PressFtoPraise.ppt
All I need is a confirmation if we can power stance a pair of Zweihanders.
Also, can't wait to kick
ass again.
PressFtoPraise.ppt
All I need is a confirmation if we can power stance a pair of Zweihanders.
Also, can't wait to kick
Phalanx's
The battle arts...I don't know.
The weapons in Bloodborne were flat out great. It's what made the game out do a lot of action games in their own right.
I was watching some DS3 beta footage and the combat looked so...backstab fishing-ish. I don't know, Bloodborne was an RPG that did action better than most dedicated action games, I hope they don't backtrack from that in DS3.
I hope they do. There is merit to the current DS system, where it's more focused on build variety and methodical gameplay. Let BB be its own thing, and let DS do what it does best.
And then, they can up the ante with even more aggressive oriented gameplay in Bloodborne 2.
Vital Tundra
Member
Plus, being more like DkS1 means being the best for PvP. Say what you want, but DkS1 has the best PvP.
How about that first screen with the city in rubble with the dripping sun? I haven't seen that in 1080p anywhere.
That was only in a leak, not any official release yet. It's probably a gigantic spoiler for the endgame state or something.
I haven't played 2, but from what I reading and watching, it has the strongest PvP following.
BB's system was flawed from the start. That game should have been the best PvP with its deep combat mechanics.
Everyone endless fishing for instant backstab kills constantly and not using any other kind of tactic is not the best PVP. It was too easy to pull off as well as glitchy as hell. Backstabs from the front all the time, it just didn't make sense.
CountAntonius
Member
Been getting back into dark Souls 1 PvP recently and a combination of both would be the dream.
Dark Souls 1
The movement just feels better
No Soul Memory
Infinite use invasion items
Dark Souls 2
Can invade people when area boss is dead
More balanced and build variety
Less backstab fishing
From the videos I've seen of the known Twitch PvPers this game seems to hit the right spots. Nice long video discussing their experiences.
Dark Souls 3 - PvP & Overall Impressions
Yes, citing sources should be a given. As long as he's giving credit where it's due, and making it clear that his speculations/interpretations are just that, then I guess he can say whatever he wants.
I think part of me is just bitter because I probably couldn't do what he does, to the extent that he does it. We all have different lives with different priorities, but Souls is just as important to me, and sometimes I dislike the way it's "handled" by the community.
Orochinagis
Member
I like how he started to give credit to the oficial sources rather than implying he discovered or found the dots to put his theories.
Then you understand most of his info is a recopilation of many sources on the internet than his, which is kinda sad because most of the people go to his videos instead of the original sources, even Gaf have some sources in the lore section then being briefly mentioned on his videos as "some people found"
avrophantasm
Member
Waifu spotted. I don't know if she'll trump the Maiden in Black/Lady Maria+Plain Doll but let's hope she's more engaging than the Emerald Herald.
Bloodporne
Member
Nah, sometimes it's just fine to simply think someone's a douche or sucks.
I've never been interested in these types of videos myself so I never had much of an opinion about it before. After clicking the link all I can say is that the presentation is well done but pretty pretentious.
Bloodporne
Member
It truly baffles me why they would revert to a system that reflected Demon's Souls world design being stage-based. It already seemed superfluous in Bloodborne, as much as I liked the doll and Hunter's Dream itself. Dark Souls' system evolved with the world design and to accommodate it, why revert to the old one that was used in a game with stages?
MoogleWizard
Member
Absolutely gorgeous. When this game was first announced, I was meh about it, franchise fatigue and all. And now I'm sad that this will be the last Dark Souls game.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
My body is ready for a new Soulsborne experience!!!!!!!
TyphoonStruggle
Member
People like Vaati cause of convenience or his voice... I guess. I stopped watching his videos once he was outted as a thief. Sometimes I get tricked into links to his videos.
There was uproar in the DOTA 2 community about a YouTuber named NoobFromUA who was stealing from pros by compiling highlights. But I dont care and continue to watch his videos because it's convenient for me.
Two similar cases here.
But I cant stand not sourcing other peoples hard work (critical thinking and connections in the case of Soulsborne), outright lore speculation, and on top if that using Patreon like Vaati does.
NoobFromUA does good work for the community. I dont have time to sit in Twitch all day to watch pros play a frigging video game. Highlight videos allow me to be apart of the community without the excessive time commitment. I think it helps the DOTA 2 community grow beyond the hardcore.
There was uproar in the DOTA 2 community about a YouTuber named NoobFromUA who was stealing from pros by compiling highlights. But I dont care and continue to watch his videos because it's convenient for me.
Two similar cases here.
But I cant stand not sourcing other peoples hard work (critical thinking and connections in the case of Soulsborne), outright lore speculation, and on top if that using Patreon like Vaati does.
NoobFromUA does good work for the community. I dont have time to sit in Twitch all day to watch pros play a frigging video game. Highlight videos allow me to be apart of the community without the excessive time commitment. I think it helps the DOTA 2 community grow beyond the hardcore.
Hahaha. I see where you're coming from, but I think what really bothers you is that people take his word (and anyone else that publishes something on lore) as ultimate truth. The lore isn't what is in the game, it's what Vaati says lore is. This isn't as much his fault as it is people appealing to authority.
To use a recent example, when Bloodborne came out, Vaati thought the Cleric Beast was Ludwig. He says it as fact in his video, but that's just because that's the kind of video he makes, he doesn't do a normal playthrough offering his thoughts, he tells a story. I thought it was absurd the moment I first watched the video, and even joked about it here and there. But that's it, it's ok to be wrong, the real issue was when I was discussing lore with some dudes, and one of them says "Ludwig is the Cleric Beast", I jokingly reply with "I see someone watched Vaati's recent video", and he says "yeah, but I could figure it out by myself if I wanted to, I just don't have the time". See, that's where the real problem lies. People are just too lazy and accept someone else's interpretation as fact instead of experiencing the game themselves and forming their own opinions, using then other people's content to compare ideas and maybe change their mind about a few points.
I disagree with a lot of stuff Redgrave says, for example, but I still think he's the best lore-related content creator for Bloodborne. Didn't read his Paleblood Hunt yet (either version), but I adore his youtube stuff. It's up to people to know how these games work and filter this content, comparing with their own interpretation. And Redgrave himself keeps saying this every chance he has, which is why I always use his channel as an example, he claims people not to appeal to authority, that it's not just fine, but great, to disagree with content creators.
Coming back to Vaati, a lot of people flipped their shit in the Bloodborne retranslation thread, but I saw it as a very informative video, one of the best I've seen for the game. I didn't get the impression that the objective was to say that we can't trust the official localizations, just to explore the original text in order to see if there's any doubt that could be cleared by a different choice of words. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Frognation going with Vacuous for Rom, for example, but the original text gives us the exact meaning of Vacuous we should be looking at, since it's a word that can be interpreted in various ways. I would never want (and I think Vaati wouldn't as well) her name to be Rom, the Stupid Spider, but it's nice to know for sure that this is the meaning of Vacuous we should take into consideration when discussing her title.
I can definitely identify myself in your frustrations, but once I stopped faulting him for his fans' actions, I saw nothing but wonderfully produced videos, that are almost always worth my time, even if I don't actually learn anything, or agree with anything.
I still think his (very controversial) Bloodborne Lore video (where he goes throught most the main story) is the best of its kind. Even showing the items and their descriptions every time he's referencing something, it's truly great.
I think I have a very unpopular opinion on the whole "stealing" thing.
Redgrave's case in particular was different, because what was in question comes down to specific word choice and presentation, so I'm not defending that, but what could he steal from "random fans on Reddit"? The discoveries? I don't think it belongs to them in the first place. The only one he's maaaybe stealing when he makes videos showing stuff he found out through the community is From Software. The credit for the stuff people found out is From's, you didn't create it, you were just the first to notice something that was created by someone else. I don't think that deserves credit.
Again, I'm aware that's not a very popular opinion at all, but I think this has to do with this mentality that the lore in Souls games is something to get "from youtube", or "from reading wikis", instead of part of the game. When you see this specific piece of lore as something that only exists through someone's post on Reddit, then it's natural to give them credit for it.
Yeah, I know what you mean. But you have to wonder, if you did, would you really capture the same people? If you go in-depth into the thought process of interpreting the game, you'll most likely attract people who are already interested in that. ENB's From the Dark playthrough probably won't capture much of the same audience as Vaati's more quick and concise videos on Dark Souls' story.
It's also important to keep in mind that, to a lot of people, his style of video is the gateway to actually investing into the lore yourself. It's not uncommon to see people who played through the game and think it doesn't even have a story. It's one thing to ask that people who are interested in the lore already try to interpret the game themselves instead of just waiting for youtubers, but how can you ask that to someone who has no idea there even is a story? The kind of video he makes is more likely to bring more people into this side of the community, and it's already great for that reason.
Can you really blame people for wanting it all compiled into one video rather than having to search through "multiple sources"?
That's what I'm talking about, there are not "many sources", the source is the game. If people don't want to find it out themselves in the game, it doesn't matter where they find it from.
We still have people saying you need to look on a wiki to get to Cainhurst, when the summons straight up tells you where to go, same for the DLC, when there's a prompt telling you where to go when you pick up the Eye.
People are lazy, if you try to remove these compilations, they just won't ever know, they're not suddenly going through hundreds of stupid dank meme threads on Reddit (nothing against those, I actually laugh at some, I love /r/Bloodborne) to find some speculation here and a somewhat hidden detail there.
Hopefully uncapped.
Dark Souls III |OT| Probably uncapped