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New DriveClub video shows day/night transition
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Vire
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I played religiously FM3 and 4, I don't need to prove anything. The lightning is still the same.
Since when expressing an opinion is trolling?
Someone posted a gif. I said what I had to say, period.
You have the right to disagree of course, but not to insult or accusing of trolling.
It took me 4 or 5 close looks before I saw what you were talking about. If it has to be pointed out to me and it still takes that many looks, I think that's pretty good for me.
I'll give you on the idea that the lighting may be similar, given that it's still largely baked environmentally speaking, but I do still see some improvements even in that regard. There's a lot more to graphics than just lighting though.
For example, geometry, amount of stuff going on in the background, draw distance, vehicle poly's and detail, textures, reflections and more.
That's what I said but people are going to see what they want. I mean, people say some comments are trolling but then others say Forza's car models are a generation ahead of DC's based off of two entirely different cars with one's design having a lot more detail in the back compared to the other that is much sleeker and standard? I don't get it.
That's all I needed to hear. It's not a secret that many players complained over the years about the lightning in the series.
We are about to play next-gen racing games. Allow me to be a little upset when I see things like this. To me lightning comes first when judging on realism, then polycount, anti-aliasing etc...
EmptySpace
Banned
wrong. salvor.hardin can clearly see the light from the sun at the side of the car (next to rightside rear lights) disappearing and then reappearing at the front of the car as the car turned.
the light inside the car even goes out.
Quick question, for those who pour over the most minute of stuff. I think this might unconfuse a few people, including myself.
When you're complaining (pointing out things) about AA and shadows and other stuff you might not be able to see if you're not comparing and looking for them, you're not saying the game looks ugly right? You're just saying that it could look better?
When you're complaining (pointing out things) about AA and shadows and other stuff you might not be able to see if you're not comparing and looking for them, you're not saying the game looks ugly right? You're just saying that it could look better?
shiftplusone
Member
Both cars are very accurately modelled.
idk what that bottom car is but it looks like a damn FZero car
edit: and I want it
BeekleMatter
Member
I want this game now ugh.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Watching the vid made me want to play a racing game so I started NFS:Most Wanted. What was Criterion smoking when they made this game? The controls are atrocious and it feels like I'm driving on an ice rink. And it's an open world game on top of that.
bigboss370
Member
man I can't stop staring at that DC gif! Can't believe I'll be getting it for free with PS+ 
idrinkalone
Banned
looks amazing! cant wait to play it!
haZethew0rld
Member
It's come a long way since that E3 demo, good job Evolution!
Input lag, on pc at least. I don`t know about consoles. Friend of mine bought it on Origin and played it for 1 hour. He still has hopes for that patch. :/
People are comparing models in those two gifs but isn't it more a problem of reflection ? To me the DC car looks kinda "simple" cause there is not a lot happening on its surface.
I think the real overkill there is the interior of the car. They should have simpler model for that and more details on the outside. That would probably be more rewarding.
I think the real overkill there is the interior of the car. They should have simpler model for that and more details on the outside. That would probably be more rewarding.
uncharted86
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This is what they had to say yesterday:
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/09/13/new-driveclub-video-shows-daynight-transition/#comment-422445
metareferential
Member
There's no way they'll get this to run at 60 fps.
It was never intended to.
It was never intended to.
Dragon1893
Member
Game is looking good. I'll be very impressed if it's 60fps. Not getting my hopes up though.
Psycho_Mantis
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I don't know how anyone can say one game's car model is better than the others when the gifs have too different cars.
Cyborg
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Cause some guys like to bitch about details! They should wait for the final game!
The video looks amazing, keep up the good work EVO
Red Chocobo
Banned
That's what I was thinking when I read some of the comments lol.
"The Forza car looks more detailed"
No shit, it's car with more details *Facepalms*
Reading that it seems more and more unlikely that it's going to happen given the time they have probably left.
LeeRoyBrown
Banned
^^
From some random Xbot on youtube, my god comments like that are amazing, I just love lapping up their tears it's delicious.
That being said, both this and Forza 5 look good, may not buy either. I'll wait for reviews on DriveClub, loved this shit out of Motorstorm Pacific Rift. I'd have to say that was my favourite racer of the gen.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
One has door handles modeled, the other doesn't.
I really wish they would have went like motorstorm . With mud flying around , multiple paths with cars on top side and freaking total chaos.
I will already be getting gt6, and I get ps4 needs a racer to compete with Forza . So this is a nice compromise / solution . But I really wished for some whacky ness
I will already be getting gt6, and I get ps4 needs a racer to compete with Forza . So this is a nice compromise / solution . But I really wished for some whacky ness
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Surely this is a joke, yes?
Yeah, how exactly are we suppose to compare modelling cars if it's still not even the same car?
Lighting doesn't really look much better in the DC shot. The clear difference is the horrible 2D trees in the Forza shot
They both look good to me.I made a forza gif if anyone wants to compare. Surprisingly Fallons footage is the only direct feed outside chase cam i could find lol.
I'm surprised by how much of a difference real lighting makes when you compare them side by side though. It really ties the car and environment together in DriveClub whereas the car could almost be cut and pasted from another game in Forza. It just seems to add far more life to DriveClub.
I still like how Forza looks but I really do prefer DriveClub.
ricen-beans
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I suspect they didnt go with motorstorm again cause MS apocalypse didnt sell well, at all. So they figured they'd try something new.
And if MS:RC is anything to go by, driveclub is gonna have some awesome social interactions.
It's obvious he wasn't looking at the car or the amazing lighting. Let me look for anything to cry about on the roadside [which is already explained in the op by the way]. Tears are always good to wash down a good crow meal.
Rushy I dont know if you guys read this; there`s one thing that bothers me as is.
In cockpit view, the steering wheel animation; the amount of wheel turn relative to speed seems off?
I know that the physics/control is mix of arcade/real, but it would help hugely if it LOOKS correct/real in cockpit view.
In cockpit view, the steering wheel animation; the amount of wheel turn relative to speed seems off?
I know that the physics/control is mix of arcade/real, but it would help hugely if it LOOKS correct/real in cockpit view.
Insane Metal
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What?? They look great, man...
Also, I must say IQ in Forza is better right now. But all the rest looks better in DC, honestly. I guess that's mainly because of the lighting.
Edit: Forza still has some of those 'X' trees yet. Eww.
I agree. It makes it much easier to discuss the footage too when you know the devs are aware of the issues. It also provides more insight into development, which I love.
mangochutney
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That for me is the biggest difference between the two games.
Forza has those 'X' trees and the buildings look like cardboard façades in places, they have decent detail but look flat.
DC on the other hand has tremendous detail for those things.
That coupled with the lighting shows that whilst Forza does look good, DC is doing so much more, and is why it is kind of hard sometimes to suggest to people that we're seeing the PS4's difference in power at work.
I think what Turn 10 have done is just made a 1080p60 version of their last game, using the same way of making things as on current gen with a few new things, whereas Evolution are actually trying to make that next-gen leap in technology with the lighting, the 3D trees and vistas.
Man, Sony fans are like cheerleaders... one start saying bullshit and the troop quickly follow repeating those bullshits to make GAF believe. Sad thing is that GAF believe. lol.
This really shows people's age or comprehension of basic laws of physics. oh and lol
mangochutney
Member
Why is it bullshit? The 'x' trees are visible. That is the truth.
According to what you're saying, anyone who says anything has to have a unique statement that no one can agree with.
Have you ever considered more than one person might be of the same opinion?
I've seen some good trees in Forza, but there's a good deal of the cheap trees, too.