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[JoeM86]

JOOOOOEEE

 

[Starwolf_UK]

And now we can forget anyone ever came up with Robingroot, Panthster, and Entermaid...

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Though probably not like Smugleaf still sees occasional use

So Alolan Persian now with an official entry shows it is still the Classy Cat Pokémon (so is probably still Siamese Pokemon in Japan) and is 4 inches taller and 2.3lbs heavier than it's normal counterpart.

holy shit that was an awesome trailer

except what happened to Red????? yuck~!

I was expecting him to have acne to go with the rest his awkward teenage look.

Primarina's move is a waste of everyone's time.

Everyone has been harsh on that evolution line even down to it's signature move. I expect it'll do more damage to burned Pokemon and there is a water type move that burns Pokemon pretty consistently...hmm, now there's a combo. So it's a case of base power and see but will probably end up in the same place as wake-up slap and smelling salts.

Jesus, the guardians can form a Yellow Devil?

Being able to battle some of the old characters like that is pretty rad tho. Wondering if it's just the champions and special NPC's or every past gym leader again.

Old stern faced Red is cool

The datamine text section for trainer classes did have

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...186...

entries (all scrubbed bar ones used in the demo). So it's a possibility.

We don't even know if they deal damage, though.

I hope they do, otherwise Rowlett's move is basically just mean look.

Frankly I love all the starters, I'm pretty impressed. Overall the line up as a whole is pretty strong I think.

You hear the super effective sound effect (at least in the Japanese trailer). You only get that from damage.

 

[Aaronrules380]

I just thought of something.

DOES THAT MEAN N IS IN THE GAME ?
DOES THAT MEAN I CAN SEE HIM AGAIN ?

It's possible, but I could see him being skipped for lore reasons since this doesn't seem like the type of thing N would actually do (Plus N doesn't really have his own Pokemon)

 

[Betty]

they all look way better in motion and I actually like the fire mon's final evolution now

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

Tiger Mask is a Fire/Dark type which is cool. Really is a Wrestling Heel.

Owliver Queen I wasn't expecting a sudden Ghost-typing. That means it should have a pretty wide movepool hopefully.

 

[Aaronrules380]

We don't even know if they deal damage, though.

I hope they do, otherwise Rowlett's move is basically just mean look.

Frankly I love all the starters, I'm pretty impressed. Overall the line up as a whole is pretty strong I think.

It one shots an alolan raichu with that move in the japanese trailer

Also the website specifically points out it is a physical attack

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Older Red/Blue is awesome. I wonder if Red will have dialogue?

Also, he looks way different compared to Blue.

 

[WrenchNinja]

I just thought of something.

DOES THAT MEAN N IS IN THE GAME ?
DOES THAT MEAN I CAN SEE HIM AGAIN ?

I would think they'd use him, Alder or Iris to represent Gen 5

 

[ffdgh]

I just thought of something.

DOES THAT MEAN N IS IN THE GAME ?
DOES THAT MEAN I CAN SEE HIM AGAIN ?

It's certainly a possibility since we have gen 5 backpackers. Stolen from /vp/

 

[Seven Force]

Holy shit, Grass/Ghost. I'm actually going to pick a Grass starter for once.

 

[Juni_]

Maybe Ash will be one of the famous trainers we can fight.

 

[Aleh]

You hear the super effective sound effect (at least in the Japanese trailer). You only get that from damage.

You can actually see all 3 moves dealing damage in the Japanese trailer

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Mandatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttndwyst-Xo

Incineroar would have been a fantastic name, in a vacuum, where there aren't already several third stage fire types sporting the "fire thing + action word" naming convention. It just feels super generic to me, like it's a name that communicates that he's a big mean fire type and not much else, and I've seen that shit before, because that's how all the Fire types that aren't lame or as old as I am are named

I like Incineroar a lot more as a Pokemon than I expected to from the leak. an unhinged heel wrestler that secretly just loves to entertain, lol. I can dig it. but that name fuckin sucks idk

Since it doesn't matter how many times it's been done before, it's a fantastic name then.

 

[WrenchNinja]

It's certainly a possibility since we have gen 5 backpackers. Stolen from /vp/

Haha, that's an awesome touch. it would be funny if some of them had the same name, then they'd be backpacking all the way from Unova to Alola

 

[ionitron]

It one shots an alolan raichu with that move in the japanese trailer

Also the website specifically points out it is a physical attack

You hear the super effective sound effect (at least in the Japanese trailer). You only get that from damage.

Thanks, I love it then. Sorry, no headphones in a public area and I didn't see the HP bar in the english trailer so I wasn't sure.

 

[R0ckman]

Maybe Ash will be one of the famous trainers we can fight.

Easy mode variant of Red?

 

[Daemul]

Easy mode variant of Red?

Red is already easy mode(he was an utter joke in PWT), so I'm not sure how they can make Ash even easier than him.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Saw this on Smogon forums

Uhhh...So our TV Tropes translator noticed something....dark.... in one of the Tapu's descriptions.

The English version reads:

"There is a legend which says that long ago Tapu Lele once brought an end to war between the islands of Alola by scattering its scales and soothing the tired warriors."

The Japanese version has this as well, but this next part was cut out from the English site:
"In truth, it's said that the war ended because the warriors, empowered by the scales, fought until every one of them was dead."

O_O ... D-Dont mess with Tapu Lele, people....

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Damn.

I mean the owl is nice, but I'm actually growing to like the seal dog

 

[Puruzi]

Wow Lele is a maniac. I want it.

 

[MANUELF]

I though the starters last evolution was kept secret everytime until the game released

 

[AnkiRendan]

Saw this on Smogon forums

Wow, I wonder if there are any other censored entries.

 

[Rush_Khan]

The years have not been kind to Red.

This is my first time seeing the final evos but I change my mind and I'll go with Fire instead of Grass.

 

[Kyuur]

Thank god its not Fire/Fighting. Grass/Ghost is a cool typing too.

I'm kind of regretting watching all these videos, feels like nothing will be new when I play. Especially the Red/Blue reveal.. that would have been a helluva surprise!

 

[perfectchaos007]

I thought for sure Inceneroar would be fire/fighting. So glad its fire/dark!

 

[Aaronrules380]

I though the starters last evolution was kept secretaría everytime until the game released

I think this is the first time we've seen all the starters final evos before launch, last time we saw even one was blaziken before ruby and sapphire

 

[Aleh]

The years have not been kind to Red.

Haha i don't see why people see it like this. I think he looks handsome, and I'm a guy

 

[Boss Doggie]

I think this is the first time we've seen all the starters final evos before launch, last time we saw even one was blaziken before ruby and sapphire

iirc the evos in XY were revealed just a few days before XY's release

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I though the starters last evolution was kept secretaría everytime until the game released

These leaked several different ways (including by the Pokemon Company), it was pretty pointless to keep them secret.

 

[Already Torn]

Haha i don't see why people see it like this. I think he looks handsome, and I'm a guy

He stopped wearing weirdo clothes too

 

[Aaronrules380]

iirc the evos in XY were revealed just a few days before XY's release

I meant officially.

 

[perfectchaos007]

The years have not been kind to Red.

This is my first time seeing the final evos but I change my mind and I'll go with Fire instead of Grass.

Pokemon Trainer Red sure is looking good

 

[Aaronrules380]

These leaked several different ways (including by the Pokemon Company), it was pretty pointless to keep them secret.

Yep. We even had that one guy who got Junichi Masuda to sign a fanart picture of them even before the data mines so it's not like it wasn't known that they were leaked either

 

[victreeb3l]

Litten

The owl looks awesome but not a fan of the other two.

 

[Fallout Phoenix]

iirc the evos in XY were revealed just a few days before XY's release

I'm pretty sure that was a leak because I remember looking at the leaks for XY specifically because I wanted to see the starter final evos.

 

[Tacorona72]

Uggh I need this game now. These next couple weeks are going to be torture.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Personally love Decidueye and as someone who has always chosen grass at the start of a generation, I can't see that changing. Incineroar is also fantastic and full of personality, so I might use it in my secondary version if I end up getting both versions which is something I've been considering. Primarina is good, but not quite to my personal tastes.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

So triples and rotation battles are confirmed to be gone

Where'd you get that from Ninja?

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Where'd you get that from Ninja?

If they're even gone from offline modes then that's absolute horse shit. Actually it's horse shit for online too. My bf loved sweeping legend teams in triples ((

Triples is secretly my favorite non serious format because it's just so silly. And Battle Royale is fun but doesn't scratch the itch of commanding three Pokémon simultaneously.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Where'd you get that from Ninja?

They're at the very least not featured at all online anymore, which is pretty damning

 

[Urban Scholar]

A full grown Blue(Green) & Red? Oh buddy. I'm nerding out.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Maybe Ash will be one of the famous trainers we can fight.

Well he might visit. He did send the demo player off with his greninja, so he exists.

 

[Infinite]

Tiger Mask is a Fire/Dark type which is cool. Really is a Wrestling Heel.

Owliver Queen I wasn't expecting a sudden Ghost-typing. That means it should have a pretty wide movepool hopefully.

Needs a decent fighting imo

 

[RampagingSoul]

I figured that they would release a trailer of the starters's final forms at some point. Definitely going with Rowlet still and Grass/Ghost is a lot better than the Grass/Flying typing that I think some people said previously with the data-mining and leaks.

 

[Garnox]

Grass/Ghost is pretty cool, but I wonder if they'd still allow flying type moves to be learned?

Not a fan of the toucan so I was going to make Rowlet my defacto flying type.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

So how come the leak that got the types of the other two starters right, got Desidueye wrong?

Maybe Ghost/Grass was a last minute change? It also doesn't make sense for them to add Flying to the first two forms and then just suddenly take it away. What was even the point of adding the Flying type to start with?

 

[Infinite]

So how come the leak that got the types of the other two starters right, got Desidueye wrong?

Maybe Ghost/Grass was a last minute change? It also doesn't make sense for them to add Flying to the first two forms and then just suddenly take it away. What was even the point of adding the Flying type to start with?

Masquerine and Trapinch say what's good.

 

[ash_ag]

So if Blue is Green in Japan, does that mean this girl is Blue over there?

She and Silver don't have official names, though game data suggest their names are Leaf and Silver respectively. I really hope they appear in Battle Tree!

 

[lotufo]

So how come the leak that got the types of the other two starters right, got Desidueye wrong?

Maybe Ghost/Grass was a last minute change? It also doesn't make sense for them to add Flying to the first two forms and then just suddenly take it away. What was even the point of adding the Flying type to start with?

I definitely don't think it was a last minute change. I think they just wanted a bait-and-switch on the fan base.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Needs a decent fighting imo

I doubt it'll get fighting coverage tbh. But I could see rock or ground (Earthquake has been on every grass starter barring Serperior) which would pair really nicely with it's existing STAB coverage, not to mention flying is pretty much a given,