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NFL votes to move the St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles for the 2016 season
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perfectchaos007
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That Simpsons scene with Ned Flanders being told LA doesn't have an NFL team will never be the same.
hipsterpants
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Rams will only be THE team if they're actually good. Kroenke is not a good owner, so that is unlikely to happen. The La Canfora tweet about giving Fisher an extension is funny but it actually has like an 80% chance of happening.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I kinda expected the Chargers to go first, to be honest.
Razgriz-Specter
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This is a pretty insane outcome. It was looking like the Chargers had all the support going in while the Raiders were bottom of the barrel. And it turns out that the Raiders might be the biggest winner here.
Good to have the Rams back although I'm a Broncos fan. Not sure I want the Chargers here but the 1 game a year would be nice.
Good to have the Rams back although I'm a Broncos fan. Not sure I want the Chargers here but the 1 game a year would be nice.
Same here. I hopped on the superbowl bandwagon anyways.
Officerrob
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Simply from a financial point of view, the Raiders/Oakland are the furthest away from getting a stadium deal done
Mostly right on with everything you've said, however apparently Kroenke will allow the Chargers (or Raiders if Spanos declines) to buy into partial ownership of the Inglewood stadium, along with profits from that partnership. The catch is that the partnership extends only to football games, so if Kroenke orchestrates leasing the stadium for, say, soccer games, then Spanos (or Davis) would get nothing:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...second-team-at-his-la-site-less-than-enticing
Apparently Kroenke has already gone about buying up real estate around the stadium as well, so there are no slick real estate opportunities for Spanos/Davis either. Which is why Spanos was so set on the Carson city deal with Davis. He would have had full control of the stadium and real estate, unlike Inglewood.
I think a deal will be made in Oakland. The only other possibility for them is St. Louis, and since the Rams are leaving, I doubt they're going to want to bring in ANOTHER team to replace them. The Raiders are at the bottom of the pile here, so they have the least amount of leverage.
You'll know when you watch them play. I've tried cheering two teams and I can never get too invested in the second team. I'm a Broncos fan and will cheer the LA Rams, but I can't see myself becoming a diehard Rams fan.
According to Dr.Dre , Inglewood is always up to no good.
Livingskeletons
If I pulled that off, would you die?
Now all we need is the Supersonics to go back to Seattle and balance will be restored.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's the problem: the extra valuation that makes moving worth it isn't there for the Chargers if they don't get anything other than football. This seems more like a way to threaten Oakland and San Diego into giving them sweetheart deals than a serious attempt to put the Chargers or Raiders into LA. There's no reason they wouldn't have negotiated all of this ahead of time if the end-game was Chargers + Rams in Kroenke's stadium.
The problem is that moving the team is mostly valuable because you increase your market valuation on the team itself and incomes, but you also have to eat a $550,000,000 fee which is totally worth it if you're the only team moving to that market. Losing $100,000,000 in home market stadium money PLUS paying $550,000,000.00 is steep as fuck. The Chargers are only worth $920,000,000.00. The reason the Rams can afford that is because they are instantly worth a fuckload more as the sole team in the LA market.
I'm expecting another 1-year lease for the Raiders to remain in Oakland in the meantime.
DrForester
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So when should we expect the Chargers to announce where they will be next year?
I agree, for the most part. Two NFL teams in one stadium makes no sense. Sports teams are about territory, media and merchandising. How do you have the Chargers and Rams playing in the same stadium, attempting to sell what is, fundamentally, a competing product to the same customer?
But it makes a lot of sense to incentivize the cities and franchises to come to, or at least try to come to, a stadium agreement.
Basileus777
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It can work if the right terms are met, see the Jets/Giants whose partnership has worked out fine.
Ninja Scooter
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The Giants/Jets and to some extent, Lakers and Clippers have had no problem doing it. You aren't really competing against each other. They are going to be in different conferences. And there each team has 8 home games and 8 away games, so really all it will mean is the stadium will get more use.
This. Two-faced. St. Louis is still paying on the original dome, offered another 400 million in public funding and got shot down because they asked for the NFL to kick in another 100 million. After letting Kroenke move, NFL immediately offers the 100 million to the Chargers and Raiders.
After using LA to extort money from cities around the nation then ignoring the league's own guidelines to pull the Rams from StL when they didn't need them anymore, we should be looking at all the special legal protections and tax breaks the NFL gets. When the A's left KC in the 60's, a Missouri senator threatened legislation to remove baseball's antitrust exemption. They were almost immediately granted an expansion team. Might be time to revisit that strategy.
Basileus777
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If you're in the LA market, you won't get any other games at the same time as a Rams home game. Or a Chargers home game if they end up moving too.
I suppose, given one NFC one AFC team. Still seems weird to me. I guess I'm still not used to the Jets/Giants sharing a stadium.
fudgey_lumpkins
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I say be bold and use this golden opportunity to go international.
Send the Chargers to Tijuana, the Raiders to Vancouver, B.C., and while everyone is distracted, send the Jags to London.
Send the Chargers to Tijuana, the Raiders to Vancouver, B.C., and while everyone is distracted, send the Jags to London.
I mean, if I was that guy I would've waited until after the last game of the season was played, but not to save anybody's feelings or anything.
Basileus777
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It's been over 30 years!
What a day to be a football fan in Los Angeles!!
To everyone shedding tears for St. Louis, you shouldn't. They shouldn't have taken our team in the first place. I consider them lucky to have had a couple decades and a couple Super Bowl appearances along with a win.
Can't wait to get my season tickets!!
To everyone shedding tears for St. Louis, you shouldn't. They shouldn't have taken our team in the first place. I consider them lucky to have had a couple decades and a couple Super Bowl appearances along with a win.
Can't wait to get my season tickets!!
timetokill
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St. Louis lost their team because the city is too racist. 
L.A. did nothing to try keep the team. St. Louis offered to build a second stadium in 20 years, with a total of almost a billion dollar of public funding between the two. No market has put forth as much for the NFL. Also keep in mind that St. Louis already lost the Cardinals and got tricked into thinking they were getting an expansion team that ended up going to Jacksonville of all places.
St.louis has plenty of reason to complain.
This is why we need to get public money out of stadiums. The NFL is a business and goes wherever the fuck it wants, tax money being flushed down the toilet.
Raiders in Toronto? Three hours away... I would be a season ticket holder for sure.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Taxpayers won.
Exactly. Like I bet even some Americans would love to cross the border and catch a game sometimes. You just know a lot of Canadians would support their only team too. It's the 4th largest sports and media market. Toronto Raiders, make it happen lol.
JetForceGemini
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