Bobby Roberts
Banned
Well, shit, I'm still lost, and he's probably not going to answer any of my direct questions, so try to explain it to me just for the sake of my own edification
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Nintendo is removing games from my Wii U & 3DS
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Well, shit, I'm still lost, and he's probably not going to answer any of my direct questions, so try to explain it to me just for the sake of my own edification
So the OP has a FYGM outlook on life, that explains everything.
The main issues are setting up multiple accounts to amass Club Nintendo points, to maximize the rewards, and using Nintendo to ship out the rewards to the whoever purchases the items from TTH.
Both are TOS violations and resulted in Nintendo doing what they did.
I honestly don't see the issue with the former, but since Nintendo does use this as a reference point, it makes sense why they would want to limit it.
However, using Nintendo as a personal courier is wrong. If you wanna try and recoup some of your losses, you do that on your own.
It's the latter which alerted Nintendo in the first place. TTH was doing ok with having multiple accounts for years.
Everything else are assumptions from other posters, which I honestly think is unwarranted.
The TOS is like two pages for Club Nintendo, and Top Hat refused to read it. Everything can be laid at his own feet.
Team Top Hat
Banned
All codes were obtained legally from buying the games brand new. The said games were not returned or traded. They were kept by myself, family, and friends.
That's cold, don't think I could do that to other people especially if it's just because they're slower than me at a job.
It's a risk that could backfire, I guess like this Nintendo thing.
Awful. But I guess he needed the money to buy games for his niece's hamster to get those precious coins.
n64coder
Member
You said that you gave proof to Nintendo. Where is this proof? It shouldn't be a big deal to post it here. All we have are your statements which contradict each other.
This is part of the story that is curious to me. Seems like it would be a major pain in the ass and a lot of legwork for the OP to gather hundreds of games receipts from over time. But apparently was able to scan and send them as requested in no time flat, like it wasn't even a chore? If so, he's pretty well organized, I toss my receipts out.
Team Top Hat
Banned
Proof was sent to Nintendo. It's none of yours or anyone elses business otherwise. Or do we have to have every user here post receipts of games they are playing to make sure it's legally obtained?
That's the coolest thing I read all week. I want to know more.
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Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't think this is an "every user" sort of scenario, as not very many users have called to attention their peculiar behavior regarding the rewards program like you have.
Are you going to cease buying your friends & family their video games going forward in response to this action? Or will you simply shift your purchasing habits towards another company's offerings? Will that shift be dependent on the company offering rewards in return for the purchases?
That's brutal, particularly if those co-workers have families/bills etc to pay.
Also, it would be interesting to hear if OP will stop purchasing Nintendo games for his niece and nephew.
Team Top Hat
Banned
Yes. As pointed in the thread earlier; I stopped going to Exxon, BP, Hobby Lobby, and Chik Fila. When it comes to corporations or people for that matter, who I don't agree with, I cut them out of my life.
The route I may take is to buy them used so Nintendo doesn't get a dime.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I think you're absolutely right about that.
But you've also said that you never returned or traded any of these games. Care to share a picture of your collection (both physical and digital), at least? I'd be curious to see exactly what kind of library would build up over the course of a 12000+ coin acquisition in two years.
Sounds about right
Personal issues aside, you have clearly violated CN terms of service, as shown earlier in the thread, so any sort of action they take against you is completely justified. It says so right there in the TOS that they can delete your account and games. They don't even have to tell you.
This only works if you're 100% right all the time. Otherwise, you're limiting yourself from receiving opposing view points that may show how your own views should be changed.
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Reminds me of IDIC. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.
you're safe.
Redeeming MK8 on the main and sub-account of a family account was fine, if I recall correctly.
Then he shouldn't have made a topic if he didn't wanted unwated attention.
We're on a public forum, not in a private chat here.
That's fine.
What you can't do is create an entirely separate account to redeem those coins.
TTH did not know that these were against the TOS (which is TTH's fault for not reading it), but now it's been cleared up.
If they're used, it means Nintendo already got the dime for those games, no? You're just buying used games for your niece and nephew to spite Nintendo instead of new games for your relatives...that kinda sucks.
nah, buying used means Nintendo doesn't get the money.
in pubs' eyes, it's ideal everyone buys new.
So you have a pretty hefty collection of physical 3DS and Wii U games as well as digital versions of all those games installed on their respective consoles? I'd sure like to see that.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Me too. Must be a hell of a collection.
So it turns out the OP was in the wrong, dun dun why am I not surprised?
Indeed the guy was annoying in those thread.
Suddenly his name and avatar makes a lot of sense.
Indeed the guy was annoying in those thread.
Suddenly his name and avatar makes a lot of sense.
TheBaldEmperor
Member
Add me to the list of people who would like to see this.
Orniletter
Banned
I just picturing you coming home, broken window, being scared someone may be still in the house only to find two of your 3DS gone and a note:
"Dear hwy_61,
You were in violation of our ToS so I have deleted your 3DS hardware.
With love,
Mario"
no man, that's what used to happen before Nintendo discovered the internet
I heard from one of my mates at school that he was using exploiting club nintendo back in 2000, and Nintendo sent Waluigi round to smash his consoles and beat up his mum
Lol OK OK, that might've been a dumb question
Just for the record, I was maybe thinking more like they'd take points away from me for multiple 3DS systems registered.
I can imagine a Nintendo hit squad in Mario costumes.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Guys. Character attacks are unwarranted. If you wish to rake him over the coals, try to do it for things like his total disregard for TOS's and then subsequent surprise that said TOS was enforced.
I don't get this... if you had enough money to spend money to get all these games containing club Nintendo Coins... why would the games you lost matter that much to you? Why not just buy them again? If you really spent that kinda money on games, what problem would it be to buy these games. I'm so confused about all this, and it seems fishy that you would buy all these games just for points.
Also take some pics of your collection, would be nice to see
Also take some pics of your collection, would be nice to see
You made it everyone's business when you posted a public topic on the internet. You could always stop posting in said topic if you don't want people to ask you questions about your crazy number of coins/games, especially directly to said people.
coffeehofi
Member
n64coder
Member
I wasn't asking to send all of your receipts to us. I think you should be able to post some of them though. Where do you typically buy your games new? Do you put all of the receipts in a folder or shoebox? I could definitely use some tips to improve my record keeping at tax time.
To clarify, I wasn't saying others haven't had an issue with Nintendo. I was saying others haven't had a moral issue with it.
Seriously? :-/
Yeah this is the part that gets me. What is the overall purpose?
flatearthpandas
Member
This thread is getting a little wild. My initial opinion hasn't changed: OP broke the ToS to game the system, got caught, got banned.
Is it a bummer that you're not allowed to buy and register multiple copies of games? Sure, but if the coins are rewarded for surveys it makes sense Nintendo doesn't want to reward duplicates and it is common practice for companies to limit the rewards that can be earned, regardless of how much money you spend.
It seems strange that the OP is railing against this pretty cut and dry situation. At the same time, I don't see that it's necessary to accuse the OP of any wrongdoing and there's certainly no reason to call for pictures of literally anything from him. It's irrelevant to this thread. Whether he has the dosh to toss at multiple copies of games or is stealing codes, it's already clear why his account was banned and there's no harm in giving him the benefit of the doubt about irrelevant details.
Is it a bummer that you're not allowed to buy and register multiple copies of games? Sure, but if the coins are rewarded for surveys it makes sense Nintendo doesn't want to reward duplicates and it is common practice for companies to limit the rewards that can be earned, regardless of how much money you spend.
It seems strange that the OP is railing against this pretty cut and dry situation. At the same time, I don't see that it's necessary to accuse the OP of any wrongdoing and there's certainly no reason to call for pictures of literally anything from him. It's irrelevant to this thread. Whether he has the dosh to toss at multiple copies of games or is stealing codes, it's already clear why his account was banned and there's no harm in giving him the benefit of the doubt about irrelevant details.
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