What about Wii U?
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What about Wii U?
I have the impression that MS is always very fast when it comes to communicating a win, while Sony is much slower.
On the other hand, as sales numbers are not important for MS any more - why bother.
The problem is: WHY MS don't care any more?
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Rise of the Tomb Raider couldn't even rank in the Top 20 but a 2 year old Need For Speed Rivals did? That is hilariously sad.
I have no idea what you mean...
It's from a list from users of their software and from those users only ones who shared their receipts. It's another data point, it's not inaccurate but shows what infoscout users bought.
The only company that really has released more market oriented news for BF is Adobe.
Oh, I know. But there's no way that list is representative for the whole market.
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About the PR; even when MS dominated last year Black Friday, they didn't release any PR about it. So not PR from them this year doesn't necessarily mean they lost.
About the PR; even when MS dominated last year Black Friday, they didn't release any PR about it. So not PR from them this year doesn't necessarily mean they lost.
Sarcasm? If not:
MS doesn't release numbers anymore because they pale in comparison to Sony's worldwide. Hence why they switched to talking about XBL subscriptions and Halo 5 revenue.
Was there any doubt?So both consoles are back to $349.99.
So both consoles are back to $349.99.
why do you doubt sony winning? They were the same price.Oh, I know. But there's no way that list is representative for the whole market.
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About the PR; even when MS dominated last year Black Friday, they didn't release any PR about it. So not PR from them this year doesn't necessarily mean they lost.
why do you doubt sony winning? They were the same price.
Worth noting that black Friday deals, uncharted ps4 looks to have outsold 299 xbone by about 3 to 1.
There is a LOT of MS stock sitting in warehouses but it looks like nobody is really buying the more expensive 1tb skus.
Keep in mind this is from one retailer and one subset of this retailers stores. So this might not be indicative of any trend country-wide.
Worth noting that black Friday deals, uncharted ps4 looks to have outsold 299 xbone by about 3 to 1.
There is a LOT of MS stock sitting in warehouses but it looks like nobody is really buying the more expensive 1tb skus.
Keep in mind this is from one retailer and one subset of this retailers stores. So this might not be indicative of any trend country-wide.
Well, we do know Microsoft over ships XB1 since ever.
Yeah. There's a few thousand of the 1tb holiday bundle sitting in a local warehouse. Looks like that's the one MS is hedging their bets on.
How many stores and what region? Are you allowed to state your retailer?
So both consoles are back to $349.99.
Sony just announced $299 for Uncharted and Battlefront bundles between december 06 and 19.
Microsoft will have to respond or Xbox One will be crushed in december.
Sony just announced $299 for Uncharted and Battlefront bundles between december 06 and 19.
Microsoft will have to respond or Xbox One will be crushed in december.
Sony just announced $299 for Uncharted and Battlefront bundles between december 06 and 19.
Microsoft will have to respond or Xbox One will be crushed in december.
I don't get it. Why stores are ordering so much Xbox One? Can you return them to Microsoft?
*ifThe problem with this Sony move is discourage people to buy the console at $349 when the price go back, the same thing that happened when MS tried to sell Xbox One for $399 after temporary price drop.
Are less days at lower price, but still there's a risk.
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I am thinking Sony was planning a $100 price drop all along. They just managed to take advantage of the $350 price point because it was their first official price drop.
After the amazing holiday sales, they can just say, "Due to the incredible reception of the $299 bundles, we are happy to announce the 500GB PS4 will remain at $299. With games like Uncharted 4, Street Fighter 5 and *insert relevant third party title* on the way, now is a great time to join the Playstation community" or something of that nature.
Damn, Battlefront bundles as well? Great timing. Star Wars Episode VII is coming out around that time, right? The Battlefront bundles will be flying off shelves at $299 during that time. PS4 is going to have an incredible December.Sony just announced $299 for Uncharted and Battlefront bundles between december 06 and 19.
Microsoft will have to respond or Xbox One will be crushed in december.
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I am thinking Sony was planning a $100 price drop all along. They just managed to take advantage of the $350 price point because it was their first official price drop.
After the amazing holiday sales, they can just say, "Due to the incredible reception of the $299 bundles, we are happy to announce the 500GB PS4 will remain at $299. With games like Uncharted 4, Street Fighter 5 and *insert relevant third party title* on the way, now is a great time to join the Playstation community" or something of that nature.
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I am thinking Sony was planning a $100 price drop all along. They just managed to take advantage of the $350 price point because it was their first official price drop.
After the amazing holiday sales, they can just say, "Due to the incredible reception of the $299 bundles, we are happy to announce the 500GB PS4 will remain at $299. With games like Uncharted 4, Street Fighter 5 and *insert relevant third party title* on the way, now is a great time to join the Playstation community" or something of that nature.
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I am thinking Sony was planning a $100 price drop all along. They just managed to take advantage of the $350 price point because it was their first official price drop.
After the amazing holiday sales, they can just say, "Due to the incredible reception of the $299 bundles, we are happy to announce the 500GB PS4 will remain at $299. With games like Uncharted 4, Street Fighter 5 and *insert relevant third party title* on the way, now is a great time to join the Playstation community" or something of that nature.
MS did the same last year... works really well.Right, making the price drop sound promotional raises purchase urgency. Good strategy actually, if true.
2 price drops in the span of 3 months? Not happening.
It is technically two price drops but I am more saying Sony really had a $100 price drop for the public but split it up to get as much profit out of the $350 price point before going to the actual price of $299.It's strange drop the price in october and in january again. Not sure that's the Sony's plan.
Also in the christmas week (a huge week for sales) the price will go back, so this sounds a strategy to maximise december sales selling more pre christmas and not a future permanent price drop
MS did the same last year... works really well.
Just wanted to say that. They ruthlessly copied the superior strategy from MS's textbook.
Shame on them. Desperate Sony in defense.
2 price drops in the span of 3 months? Not happening.
Not only that, but when the PS4 crushes the XB1 in December, Sony is going to get complacent again. They will charge $499 for an Uncharted 4 bundle and you know people will still buy it. How do they get away with it?Just wanted to say that. They ruthlessly copied the superior strategy from MS's textbook.
Shame on them. Desperate Sony in defense.
Just wanted to say that. They ruthlessly copied the superior strategy from MS's textbook.
Shame on them. Desperate Sony in defense.
Not only that, but when the PS4 crushes the XB1 in December, Sony is going to get complacent again. They will charge $499 for an Uncharted 4 bundle and you know people will still buy it. How do they get away with it?
Yep, not even the veterans. Then, Sony will claim the bundle sold 90% digitally in their PR. Arrogant Sony must be brought down!They will even sell Uncharted 4 bundles with Uncharted 2 in it and noone will notice!
Oh, I know. But there's no way that list is representative for the whole market.
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About the PR; even when MS dominated last year Black Friday, they didn't release any PR about it. So not PR from them this year doesn't necessarily mean they lost.
It's strange drop the price in october and in january again. Not sure that's the Sony's plan.
Also in the christmas week (a huge week for sales) the price will go back, so this sounds a strategy to maximise december sales selling more pre christmas and not a future permanent price drop
Sony has been at the $399 price point for nearly two years. I just think they are able to go with a full $100 cut by now.I really don't think that Sony is planning to make the 299$ price permanent before Uncharted 4 hits at the earliest.
People are overreacting, this is just two weeks of promotion to maximize sales and cash in on Star Wars.
Promotions like this are commonly done in Europe by Sony as well.
MS last year kept the lower price for two full months and the system was not moving at all at the higher price so the outcome was obvious.
This is a different situation.