AceBandage
Banned
Trurl said:
If he wasn't a loud mouth kid in commercials that have poorly written scripts and horrible supporting actors, it might be decent.
As it is, it just screams last minute desperation to try and grab the Kevin Butler fans.
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NPD Sales Results for May 2010
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If he wasn't a loud mouth kid in commercials that have poorly written scripts and horrible supporting actors, it might be decent.
As it is, it just screams last minute desperation to try and grab the Kevin Butler fans.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
TruePrime said:
While it was obvious troll bait, it would make more sense if he would have said the opposite due to Marcus being a cardboard cutout stereotypical character.
Which even then it wouldn't have made much sense.
AceBandage
Banned
Boney said:
Eh, I doubt Western devs will give handhelds full support.
At least, not any time soon.
It's weird, as much as people blast Japanese devs for sticking to tradition, they're always the first to try and support something new.
Valkyr Junkie said:
On the company's quarterly results call to investors, chief operating officer Paul Raines said that in its stores, PS3s have been out of stock a surprising 80 percent of the time during the company's February-April quarter
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28636/GameStop_PS3_Out_Of_Stock_80_Percent_Of_The_Time.php
This doesn't cover May, but with Sony releasing statements saying that they're 'focusing on getting production to meet demand' in the near future, I'd imagine shortages are still an issue.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Trurl said:
- Because it's stupid
- It's milking dry SONY's only decent marketing campaign in years
- As I said up above Marcus is a boring stereotypical character we've seen a thousand times before. The wisecrackin'-street smart-black-male-child archetype is old as hell and way over done.
Trurl said:
I don't have nothing against a teenager doing the marketing, what I have a problem with is a teenager who is made to say shit that makes him look like a god damn tool that has no brain and is saying really dumb shit that no one outside of hardcore fanboys would say.
That and I am sure that kid is intellegent and everything, please for the love of god let him show it instead of this hip shit. It isn't hip, it is fucking stupid.
Hellsing321
Member
Not on the glorious master race PCs they aren't!Draft said:
I have no idea if they can run at 60fps on a decent rig, and probably won't until I can buy them for $5 on Steam during this years holiday sale.
AceBandage said:
Some context from the article
"I actually thought the ModNation number was respectable, since the game came out only on May 25, Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pacther told IGN. "Blur came out the same day, so also not much time, but a lot more hype and advertising, so the numbers are pretty disappointing."
"Split/Second came out a week earlier, and sold around the same as ModNation on two platforms, so that's pretty sad," he added.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
AceBandage said:
Aren't we learning that while massively popular among the already existing fanbase of hardcore gamers, the Kevin Butler ads actually aren't that effective? PS3 sales have not shown any signs of their effect, unless shortages are still a factor.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
So what have we learned?
As I said last month (or whenever the last NPD thread was) UFC isn't like Madden where incremental additions and changes will sell. I'd stop the yearly releases if I were them.
Also, SURPRISE! Racers are dead. There can only be so many realistic racers before the cream of the crop start eating the contenders. Blur's commercial was cute, but it had no chance; no one wants to shoot fireballs from an Audi TT.
As I said last month (or whenever the last NPD thread was) UFC isn't like Madden where incremental additions and changes will sell. I'd stop the yearly releases if I were them.
Also, SURPRISE! Racers are dead. There can only be so many realistic racers before the cream of the crop start eating the contenders. Blur's commercial was cute, but it had no chance; no one wants to shoot fireballs from an Audi TT.
AceBandage
Banned
BenjaminBirdie said:
That's probably a fair point.
But, if they're going to be ineffective (which all Sony ads have been this gen so far), they should at least be fun to watch.
MinnesotaFatz
Member
I hope it has more to do with these retarded ass backwards online passes. Hey THQ, you hurt the used games market. There isn't enough new inventory to trade in.Averon said:
DeaconKnowledge
Member
AceBandage said:
Commercials only go so far. He's talking about the games, and he's memorable. That's what people often forget about advertising - the goal is to get you to remember their products.
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
HEADON! Apply directly to the forehead!
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Activision will probably blame the failure of Blur on the fact that it didn't have the COD license attached to it.
AceBandage
Banned
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
Or that it was on the Wii.
Y2Kev said:
I agree with you, after the record growth in 2007-09 publishers got too big and were able to secure too much financing to expand. The market can only support so many blockbusters, this month it was RDR and yet there were what, 7 games trying to compete to be that blockbuster with good sized budgets.
I invest in several gaming companies and I think I am pulling out entirely in the near term. Too much competition for them to deliver any profit margins.
Thank you!Bizzyb said:
Come to think of it, the real reason I like Marcus might be because he gives me fond memories of a kid I knew from Anchorage, Alaska. Also, I'm a Nintendo fan with no real interest in the success of the PSP. I'm not going to hate on some kid because he's not doing what's probably impossible. :lol
AceBandage
Banned
TruePrime said:
"Obviously, out target audience for Blur bought Super Mario Galaxy 2, instead. We are going to, therefore, ramp up production on all PS3/360 games and make less games for the Wii."
MinnesotaFatz
Member
Dear Plinko:Plinko said:
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Yours Truly
Bobby K
Anyone else starting to think that the industry has backed itself into a really nasty corner? The 360 is in its 5th year, the PS3 in its 4th. This is typically the period when things start ramping up for the next generation. The 'core' gaming community starts winding down at this point in the cycle, because they are getting bored with the rehashes of the same stuff that they've already been playing for a few years now, and they are getting antsy for some new experiences on new and improved hardware.
But the industry is in no position whatsoever to stick with the traditional cycle. MS and Sony have no interest at all in taking on billions of losses upfront again to try to bring bleeding-edge tech to the masses. And even if they scaled back their ambitions and went with a more typical upgrade path, the publishers don't have a chance in hell of taking on even bigger budgets than the ones they are already losing fortunes trying to maintain.
Which leaves the status-quo for several more years. But which runs the real risk of more and more gamers sitting on the sidelines in boredom until the next gen finally does come around. There will certainly still be many very successful titles released. The Halos, Call of Dutys, Gran Turismos, should all be fine. But with the status-quo, we will see A WHOLE LOT of lesser titles struggle mightily.
Kinect and Move are the temporary solutions that MS and Sony have come up with to try to alleviate the problem. Those products may or may not find their own success, but they certainly won't do much of anything to help boost the traditional 'core' portion of the industry.
THQ doesn't have a big stable of blockbusters. This is going to sting!
And Capcom is thanking their lucky stars that they have MHP3 coming this year to save their asses. They have been churning out one high-budget mega-flop after another lately. Bionic Commando and Dark Void. Now Lost Planet 2, which was initially expected to sell 3.7 million units, and was likely budgeted with those expectations in mind. And they still have Dead Rising coming as well. Ugly.
But the industry is in no position whatsoever to stick with the traditional cycle. MS and Sony have no interest at all in taking on billions of losses upfront again to try to bring bleeding-edge tech to the masses. And even if they scaled back their ambitions and went with a more typical upgrade path, the publishers don't have a chance in hell of taking on even bigger budgets than the ones they are already losing fortunes trying to maintain.
Which leaves the status-quo for several more years. But which runs the real risk of more and more gamers sitting on the sidelines in boredom until the next gen finally does come around. There will certainly still be many very successful titles released. The Halos, Call of Dutys, Gran Turismos, should all be fine. But with the status-quo, we will see A WHOLE LOT of lesser titles struggle mightily.
Kinect and Move are the temporary solutions that MS and Sony have come up with to try to alleviate the problem. Those products may or may not find their own success, but they certainly won't do much of anything to help boost the traditional 'core' portion of the industry.
DMczaf said:
THQ doesn't have a big stable of blockbusters. This is going to sting!
And Capcom is thanking their lucky stars that they have MHP3 coming this year to save their asses. They have been churning out one high-budget mega-flop after another lately. Bionic Commando and Dark Void. Now Lost Planet 2, which was initially expected to sell 3.7 million units, and was likely budgeted with those expectations in mind. And they still have Dead Rising coming as well. Ugly.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
BenjaminBirdie said:
Well PS3 sales are still up YoY.
The slim, price drop, rebranding, and new marketing push created a surge of good will for the console and helped Sony to one of their better fiscal quarters in a while, iirc. Removing any one part of that equation and you'd probably dull the sales from Sept 09 on, they needed every bit of it. The Butler ads represent the "new" PS3 which is fun and hip and actually sells first party games.
That being said, the PS3 obviously isn't going to outsell the 360 in North America, for any significant amount of time, barring Move being a Wii-like success. They've achieved price parity and it gave them temporary sales parity - now that MS is spit-shining the 360, they've lost that until at least the holiday season. Even if Kinect falls flat on its face they're going to have a hard time overcoming the Halo/Gears/CoD trio that will arguably be the biggest console movers on the HD side this Christmas.
If shortages have been a huge factor in PS3 sales the first half of the f'n year as Sony tells it, they've missed a hell of an opportunity to capitalize on their newly found good will, at least in North America. I'm actually pretty surprised that the sales ratio for RDR is almost the same as it was for GTAIV two years ago.
HK-47 said:
The front-loaded nature of GTAIV is overstated, it sold 6 million at launch and has moved an additional 11 million copies since then, even with a supposedly toxic word of mouth.
RDR is holding strong at the top of the Euro charts with almost nothing to challenge it for months.
jamesinclair
Banned
Curufinwe said:
"Split/Second was published by Disney Interactive Studios for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360."
"Blur: Platform(s) Microsoft Windows, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3"
"ModNation Racers is an kart racing game developed by United Front Games for the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable"
What does Mario Kart have that these games dont? I cant quite put my finger on it.....
Hint: N64 had much better success with arcade racers than the Playstation did. By a long shot. GC had like 3 racers, total.
Nice to see Alan Wake in the Top 10..at least.
Thought Super Mario Galaxy 2 was going to be with a higher number; the first Galaxy did twice that amount (1.1 million) though it was on November; then did 1.4 million the following month (December)...but Mario games has grazy legs; so guess Galaxy 2 will be in the Top 10 for a long time.
Thought Super Mario Galaxy 2 was going to be with a higher number; the first Galaxy did twice that amount (1.1 million) though it was on November; then did 1.4 million the following month (December)...but Mario games has grazy legs; so guess Galaxy 2 will be in the Top 10 for a long time.
jamesinclair
Banned
Plinko said:
Fair point. By this point in their respective lifetimes, all first party sony games were 39.99 on PS2 (vs 49 at launch) and 29.99 on PSX (versus 39.99 at launch).
AceBandage
Banned
jamesinclair said:
Two things.
1. Brand. Both in Mario himself and in Mario Kart (a long standing franchise known for quality).
2. Brilliant marketing that makes the games appeal to a huge variety of gamers (something that Modnation almost got, but that S/S and Blur actually shunned).
Dalthien said:
Sure, if sales start to slow down. That's the assumption your analysis is predicated upon, is it not? Except neither the PS3 or 360 seem to be slowing down very significantly. Software is still doing quite well, and both the PS3 and 360 sold more hardware this May than they did last may, without price drops.
That bodes very well for both of them (particularly the PS3, as its also up worldwide, not just in the US).
Now, if these systems actually do start slowing down (in hardware, and particularly in software), then all of this may change. I just don't see significant evidence of that yet -- again, the 360 is now the top revenue earner in the US this year, indicating that the Wii has slowed down while the 360 (a system one year older than the Wii, mind you) largely has not. If the evidence starts showing up -- sure, that's a bind.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
pixelbox said:
It's true though. Along with "You da squirrel!" and "White is coming", Sony's PSP advertisements continually scrape the bottom of the barrel. Marcus is appallingly bad, he's a pint sized Chad Warden.
MinnesotaFatz
Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but PS3 sales were so abysmal prior to the Slim that they had no place to go but up. All these 25%+ YOY sales only really tell you how far in the gutter the PS3 was last year. Once we get past the Slims birthday, PS3 sales won't have quite the luster.Sho_Nuff82 said: