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[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Why are people acting like MP3 did poorly? It's outperforming MP1, which was the first new Metroid game in like 8 years, had totally fresh gameplay, and launched in November instead of September.

Unless MP1 did better than I'm thinking in December, which could simply be chalked up to it being December.

MP3 is exceeding my expectations (or fears?)

Really ? I thought that Metroid Prime sold in USA alone more then 1.3 millions and 500k in its first month....

 

[Y2Kev]

What Factor 4.5 isnt enough? Have pitty on Julian

Factor 4.5 and 97K is currently being crunched by my photoshop machine right now.

 

[Innotech]

Mario Galaxy will sell in epic quantities. Epic quantities.



But Mario Party is 1m+ LTD good?

actually, yes. It deserves the sales it gets because as a party game, it is one of the best and definitely one of the most fun. It sells to a wide demographic. Having played it with my roommate many itmes already I can tell you the board layouts are pretty good on this one.
I enjoy it.

 

[Grecco]

Why are people acting like MP3 did poorly? ?)

Because it didnt sell 3.3 Million?

Which is stupid anyways.

 

[Christine]

also surprised no one is talking about NDS doing .5 mil, isn't that pretty huge?

We're used to that shit from the DS at this point.

 

[WingM@n]

Wow @ halo 3 sales.
I am shocked to see the ps2 still outselling the ps3.

 

[Jonsoncao]

wuts the NPD for halo2 first month? 2700k?

wuts for San Andreas?

 

[gcfan2k5]

also surprised no one is talking about NDS doing .5 mil, isn't that pretty huge?

Nobody is talking about DS doing half a million because they are too busy being surprised by how low PS3 sales are, and surprised that wii sales increased with no releases and in the face of the biggest game 360 will ever have, ever. If nintendo has the supply, and they most certainly do, nothing will stop them this holiday in the US, or worldwide.

 

[VultureDude]

Poor old Prime

Sent to die on a console made for casuals

Shame good game n'all,

well, it is doing as good as Bioshock, and the 360 is a hardcore platform, so that it telling.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

What IS the PS3 userbase buying? 139,000 for Heavenly Sword (about 4 weeks of sales) is pathetic. It'd be lucky to hit 400,000 LTD.

A lot of them bought Halo 3, obviously. Some bought Halo 3 and a 360 to play it on.

This ain't rocket science folks...

PS3 early adopters at $599 and $499 are, for the most part, hardcores. A lot of hardcore gamers (like me) aren't system bots who have some farcical loyalty to only one system, forsaking all others and other system's blockbuster signature titles. They want to play the big game. For a lot of PS3 gamers, the time to finally get a 360 or buy a new 360 game was when Halo 3 came out.

Again, this ain't a shocker...

Why was it that for months we have been talking about games launching during the Halo NPD and labeling them as "sent to die" or suggesting that games get pushed back to avoid the Halo splashdown, and now, suddenly, everyone is acting shocked that Heavenly Sword's sales were low in the same NPD when people were planning on spending between $60 and $120 on Halo 3, or even picking up a 360? Did everyone get amnesia all at once?

Hey, I bought Heavenly Sword and Halo 3 on day one. You expect to buy a bunch of games at holiday season, but that kinda hurt the pocketbook in Sept. A lot of people couldn't buy both and had to make a choice this month, I'm sure, especially if they had to also make a hardware purchase to play Halo 3.

I'm actually kinda shocked that Heavenly Sword did as well as it did when this month was clearly all about Halo 3.

I'm not so surprised about Wii's success, as people who bought it have been waiting, and they are clearly not the same kind of consumer, as evidenced by the Metroid sales. Clearly, people are buying that system for Wii Sports, ect.

I look at the fact that Metroid only sold 28K more than Heavenly Sword, with Nintendo selling 4x more hardware than PS3, and that tells you all you need to know about what type of person is buying the Wii, and what kind of games/experiences the Wii consumer wants.

 

[Frillen]

for having an opinion on the trend in wii software sells.

all i can say is wow

if i am wrong i am wrong. but begging for a ban over it seems more like 1984 than a open forum.

Trend? MP3 is on track to sell more than MP2. Mario Party 8 has sold more than any of the Gamecube iterations. Twilight Princess has already sold more than what Wind Waker did. Super Paper Mario has already sold more than what Paper Mario 2 TTYD did. Wario Ware Wii has sold WAY more than what the Gamecube version did.

I'm not sure what you're smoking but is must be some pretty hard stuff.

 

[jj984jj]

Factor 4.5 and 97K is currently being crunched by my photoshop machine right now.

Again, it sold 58k.

 

[Kodiak]

We're used to that shit from the DS at this point.

oh i thought it had been hanging down at .3-.4 but i don't pay enough attention to NPD-age.

 

[schuelma]

BTW PS3 owners should be happy by this strong 360 performance.

MS just officially saved next gen from the onus of waggle.

Better hardware sales, better software sales. 3rd parties won't be jumping ship to wii anytime soon. The side effect is there is always a PS3 port for 3rd party titles, so the PS3 benefits even though it is getting beat down.

So Microsoft's 1st party juggernaut proves to 3rd parties that they shouldn't move to the Wii?

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

they should relax. i am Switzerland. i love all 3 consoles.

but i also have [predictions on future sales like anyone else.

I live in Switzerland either. Where exactly ? Ah, I'm hoping you'll vote this weekend.

 

[Kolgar]

That's the point. I need the number. I want to make it my next meme.

I bought Lair last week and actually like it quite a lot. It's one of those "flawed gem" games, I guess, but it helps that I have no problem with the controls.

On topic, travesty about Heavenly Sword sales. Beautiful, gorgeous game; in some ways a landmark title in interactive entertainment, but too short. Still, it belongs in every PS3 owner's collection. (You paid $500-600 for a console, you can afford a great $60 game even if it does only last five hours.)

What the hell are PS3 owners DOING? Playing PS2 games? No WONDER they're taking out the BC! :lol

edit: sorry, Kev, I misread your statement as, "I want to make it my next game."

 

[Hunter D]

Don't be daft. A lot of those copies were sold based off of hype alone. The game certainly didn't sell that many copies because it was huge step up from Halo 2.

Has it ever crossed your mind that H3 is considered to be a great franchise and has a fanbase that is similar to what nintendo has with mario?

 

[MisterHero]

Woo go Wii!

Woo Congratulations go Bungie!!!

 

[Hcoregamer00]

BTW PS3 owners should be happy by this strong 360 performance.

MS just officially saved next gen from the onus of waggle.

Better hardware sales, better software sales. 3rd parties won't be jumping ship to wii anytime soon. The side effect is there is always a PS3 port for 3rd party titles, so the PS3 benefits even though it is getting beat down.

MS saved next gen from waggle. Wait a minute!! I thought that wii wasn't considered "next gen."

 

[titiklabingapat]

BTW PS3 owners should be happy by this strong 360 performance.

MS just officially saved next gen from the onus of waggle.

Better hardware sales, better software sales. 3rd parties won't be jumping ship to wii anytime soon. The side effect is there is always a PS3 port for 3rd party titles, so the PS3 benefits even though it is getting beat down.

When you have $30M bombs, it's not so rosy after all.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Don't be daft. A lot of those copies were sold based off of hype alone. The game certainly didn't sell that many copies because it was huge step up from Halo 2.

But it is a huge step up from Halo 2.

 

[Fatghost]

Wow @ halo 3 sales.
I am shocked to see the ps2 still outselling the ps3.

That's just people getting ready to duct tape them to their new 40 GS PS3s next month.

 

[xS1TH L0RDx]

if i am wrong i am wrong.

i don't think you're right; imo galaxy will sell more than prime, but everyone here is going to be surprised when there is a drop off in sales shortly after release while titles like wii play will continue to soldier on.

 

[Jonsoncao]

well, it is doing as good as Bioshock, and the 360 is a hardcore platform, so that it telling.

dont forget last month BioShock has 500k while MP3 200k

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm sorry, but how do the 360 sales express this either way? Is there something i'm missing? Yes, Halo 3 was only on sale for 11 days, but 250k systems on 3.3 million sales seems a little bit more than disparate to me. Halo 3 is arguably the biggest game of the year, and it could only push 250k? Not to say that's a BAD thing, but I don't necessarily understand how this disproves Reggie's point.

It's hard to say, but Halo 3 is clearly a factor. Over half a million systems sold in September is virtually unprecedented. The PS2 pulled it off - once. And the Wii this month. You could argue it's partly the price cut effect, and partly the Halo 3 SKU, but it's clearly in part Halo 3 as well. A million units were not going to shift instantly; an uptick of over 200k in eleven days is very impressive.

There's clearly a mix of factors here, which will continue into October with the new bundles. But Halo 3 moved systems - that's undeniable. It's likely to continue doing so - and that's enough to disprove Reggie's "point".

 

[slaughterking]

So Zelda PH is selling better in Japan than in the USA.

Zelda sales Japan >>> Zelda sales USA.

A crazy world we live in.

 

[Fuzzy]

wuts the NPD for halo2 first month? 2700k?

wuts for San Andreas?

First month for Halo 2 was 3.3 million.

 

[besada]

also surprised no one is talking about NDS doing .5 mil, isn't that pretty huge?

We've already accepted that the DS is laced with cheese heroin and is our new overlord. DS Domination isn't news

 

[Kodiak]

When you have $30M bombs, it's not so rosy after all.

its not our fault those games weren't worth buying.

 

[Femmeworth]

i don't think you're right; imo galaxy will sell more than prime, but everyone here is going to be surprised when there is a drop off in sales shortly after release while titles like wii play will continue to soldier on.

Don't say scary shit like that.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Really ? I thought that Metroid Prime sold in USA alone more then 1.3 millions and 500k in its first month....

Pretty sure the data posted last month showed otherwise. I do remember MP1 being overshadowed by the first Splinter Cell.

 

[test_account]

Your "why" is out of place. You know this answer.

No i dont. Why should you get permbanned for having an opinion?

It's simple : despite being a Nintendo franchise, Metroid always had a particularly niche appeal, which certainly couldn't compare with the monstruously wide appeal of the Mario franchise. Blame the design philosophy of both franchises...

True, but my "why" question was to why he should be permbanned for saying it.

 

[Lefty42o]

Trend? MP3 is on track to sell more than MP2. Mario Party 8 has sold more than any of the Gamecube iterations. Twilight Princess has already sold more than what Wind Waker did. Super Paper Mario has already sold more than what Paper Mario 2 TTYD did. Wario Ware Wii has sold WAY more than what the Gamecube version did.

the trend of nintendo games selling well over a long term vs short term.

take the fanboy glasses off and see i am not bashing anything. i am just predicting we seee slow sales over a log term.

if i ma wrong in a couple months dig this up and make me eat crow. but relax as well.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

It's September dude.

Not sure what you're getting at here.

Are the remaining 3.25 million people waiting until November to buy 360's for Halo 3?

 

[Shepherd]

It continues...

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Don't be daft. A lot of those copies were sold based off of hype alone. The game certainly didn't sell that many copies because it was huge step up from Halo 2.

Good god, shut the hell up. You don't think Halo 3 is as good as a lot of other people do. Big deal. Happens all the time.

 

[bryehn]

well, it is doing as good as Bioshock, and the 360 is a hardcore platform, so that it telling.

LTDs
360 BIOSHOCK TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) ~640k
WII METROID PRIME 3: CORRUPTION NINTENDO OF AMERICA ~385k

Really think it will catch up?

 

[goomba]

Meanwhile here in New Zealand the sales break down like this

Consoles:
PS3
360
Wii

Handhelds:

PSP
DS

Must be the same reason why our toilets flush the other way.

 

[FrankT]

Halo 3 sold in September what Halo 2 did when it launched in November. More publishers need to move their big guns out of the November/December log jam.

So true, they will get the nice bump over the holidays as well just like Shane Kim predicted. Whoever it was, TXB I believe, that wrote that doubting Thomas piece about the launch date has much crow to be eaten.

 

[Grecco]

But Halo 3 moved systems - that's undeniable. It's likely to continue doing so - and that's enough to disprove Reggie's "point".

His point was that "They didnt have to counter it". He was right. They took Microsofts biggest bullet and shrugged it off.

 

[polyh3dron]

What the hell are PS3 owners DOING? Playing PS2 games? No WONDER they're taking out the BC! :lol

They're watching Blu-ray movies. That's what I've been doing the most with mine, I've bought about 65 Blu-ray movies since I got the console and about 7 games.

Sony takes out Blu-ray movie functionality from PS3 CONFIRMED?

 

[Kodiak]

Not sure what you're getting at here.

Are the remaining 3.25 million people waiting until November to buy 360's for Halo 3?

you forget how many Halo 3 players are of the age to get a 360 and Master Chief 3.0 under the christmas tree.

 

[schild]

Meanwhile here in New Zealand the sales break down like this

Consoles:
PS3
360
Wii

Handhelds:

PSP
DS

Must be the same reason why our toilets flush the other way.

It's called good taste. Bravo, home of the little blue penguin.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

also surprised no one is talking about NDS doing .5 mil, isn't that pretty huge?

That is because everyone agrees that the console is selling as much as it deserves.

 

[StevieP]

BTW PS3 owners should be happy by this strong 360 performance.

MS just officially saved next gen from the onus of waggle.

Better hardware sales, better software sales. 3rd parties won't be jumping ship to wii anytime soon. The side effect is there is always a PS3 port for 3rd party titles, so the PS3 benefits even though it is getting beat down.

Microsoft's biggest first party franchise will definately show 3rd parties... hey, wait a minute...

Edit: beaten!
(waggle's here to stay, btw... sorry to say, this will be your last generation of non-waggle)

 

[Prine]

Fuck the hardware

THREE POINT THREE MILLION copies sold.

HALO fucking WASHES AWAY any fucking game IN 1 MONTH REVENUE. Big league boys, big league, now you prick Reggie. Where the fuck are you, you tosser

Its all about the money, and 360 brings the big bucks

 

[GhaleonEB]

wuts the NPD for halo2 first month? 2700k?

3.3m (3.27m technically)

Edit: Fuzzy!

 

[McBradders]

Don't be daft. A lot of those copies were sold based off of hype alone. The game certainly didn't sell that many copies because it was huge step up from Halo 2.

Please troll elsewhere, k thx.

 

[Lefty42o]

I live in Switzerland either. Where exactly ? Ah, I'm hoping you'll vote this weekend.

no sorry man i am in the usa. i meant i am neutral. bad joke i know

 

[Hunter D]

Good god, shut the hell up. You don't think Halo 3 is as good as a lot of other people do. Big deal. Happens all the time.

Apparently he is the final authority on games. His word is law.