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Oculus CEO: The headset and computer to run it will cost you ~$1,500

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NullPointer

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Seanspeed said:
Mainstream uses. Non-gaming applications, in other words.
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You're working off of more context than that tiny article provides. What you're saying sounds completely reasonable though.

Seanspeed said:
Yes, 'at most' really means the complete opposite. Makes total sense! lol
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How many times have early recommended specs become the bare minimum in reality? I remember at least that much from my PC gaming days ;)
 
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EmptySpace

Banned
YuShtink said:
Medium end PC gaming is niche? The fuck?
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check bestbuy and all the other retailers who sell prebuilt pcs i.e. where most real people in the real world buy their pcs.

the expensive ones don't even come close to the recommended specs. most people also don't go for the expensive prebuilt ones.


i mean, this should be obvious. most aren't going to replace their pcs with expensive ones just to buy another expensive accessory.
 
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YuShtink

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In the end Morpheus won't even have the most important feature for VR: PORN. How anyone can argue an add in, closed walls console peripheral is going to have a bigger impact than VR on an open platform like PC is out of their minds.
 
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skLaFarebear

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Sounds about right. Need a high end PC and I doubt my 900 dollar Asus laptop can run it lol.

When VR gets cheap (or the morpheus itself is already cheap) then I'll definitely hop on the train.
 
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Chairmanchuck

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I always find it kinda stupid to say that you need a PC with "at least this specs" to run OR. Thats bullshit and I think Oculus and other VR devs know it.

I think even with a good resolution the Tuscanny Demo will run on cheap PCs or smaller games/Apps that dont use too much graphical details.
Of course you will need at least a 970 for more graphical impressive games though.

In the end it comes down to what you want to use the headset for.
 
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Seanspeed

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NullPointer said:
You're working off of more context than that tiny article provides. What you're saying sounds completely reasonable though.


How many times have early recommended specs become the bare minimum in reality? I remember at least that much from my PC gaming days ;)
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It's not about recommended vs minimum here. The point is that $1500 is about the ceiling that you'd need to pay to get to the specs they outlined(plus the Rift included in the price). Not the exact amount, not the minimum amount, but 'at most', $1500. In other words, you'd have to try very hard to spend more than that amount to reach the specs they mentioned.
 
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ChronotriggerJM

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YuShtink said:
In the end Morpheus won't even have the most important feature for VR: PORN. How anyone can argue an add in, closed walls console peripheral is going to have a bigger impact than VR on an open platform like PC is out of their minds.
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I imagine the PS4 ecosystem for VR will be comparable to how functional a console is versus a computer nowadays lol. There will probably be a TON of VR content that the PS4 will never see. But I imagine it'll be a good place for games :p
 
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InaudibleWhispa

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King Gilga said:
Wow. RiP VR, over before it could really even begin again.

Maybe in a decade or two...
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Apart from for the tens of millions of people who will be able to buy an Oculus headset for $200 this year with no extra hardware cost. Expand that to hundreds of millions next year and likely everyone who owns a smartphone the year after. Decades indeed...
 
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Azriell

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I was excited for Oculus, but this neuters my excitement considerably. My PC is a few years old now and I'm sure I'll need to sink more money into to bring it to to speed. To top it off, my current PC setup is not very conducive to gaming.

I wish them well but I'm more interested in Morpheus now. It also helps that most of my friends are on PS4 abs XB1.
 
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Seanspeed

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Chairmanchuck said:
I always find it kinda stupid to say that you need a PC with "at least this specs" to run OR. Thats bullshit and I think Oculus and other VR devs know it.
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That would be stupid, and thankfully they didn't say that.

They are giving a spec recommendation to cover a wide range of uses, which would include more demanding games. They are trying to avoid people buying the Rift, trying it out and then puking because a game was only running 20fps on their rig.
 
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safichan

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Morpheus will going to appeal the mass market across the globe. Sony will bundle it with PS4, and lower the console price. People need to realise...this is business. The more money manufacture can get from the sold product, they will have more budget to invest for the content in the future for the said product.

Personally Sony is the right choice for mass market at the moment. Majority of the consumer dont care about high end VR. They just want to experince it at the right price. Majority of them are casual gamers.
 
Shpeshal Nick

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
Looks like Oculus won't be taking VR to the masses. Assuming it even ever gets to mass market level.

safichan said:
Morpheus will going to appeal the mass market across the globe. Sony will bundle it with PS4, and lower the console price. People need to realise...this is business. The more money manufacture can get from the sold product, they will have more budget to invest for the content in the future for the said product.

Personally Sony is the right choice for mass market at the moment. Majority of the consumer dont care about high end VR. They just want to experince it at the right price.
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That's a big assumption to make.
 
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Ferrio

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You can watch VR porn on a POS computer, rift will still have buyers who don't have top of the line machines. Not to mention anything else that isn't using cutting edge graphics.
 
baphomet

baphomet

Member
King Gilga said:
Wow. RiP VR, over before it could really even begin again.

Maybe in a decade or two...
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Statements like these are amazingly ignorant.

The people who have and will purchase these things likely already have the equipment to use them to their full capacity. Nearly 10 million on steam alone already have the rig to do this. Those are the people that this was always aimed at.
 
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Soi-Fong

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InaudibleWhispa said:
Apart from for the tens of millions of people who will be able to buy an Oculus headset for $200 this year with no extra hardware cost. Expand that to hundreds of millions next year and likely everyone who owns a smartphone the year after.
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Woah there... I think you're several million off.
 
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YuShtink

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EmptySpace said:
check bestbuy and all the other retailers who sell prebuilt pcs i.e. where most real people in the real world buy their pcs.

the expensive ones don't even come close to the recommended specs. most people also don't go for the expensive prebuilt ones.


i mean, this should be obvious. most aren't going to replace their pcs with expensive ones just to buy another expensive accessory.
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There are millions of people out there with competent PCs. And in the next year millions more will be buying new ones as they always have.

These VR headsets aren't just another expensive accessory. They fundamentally shift the experience of interacting with computers. It opens up an entirely new medium for people to do all kinds of stuff. And the place where you can freely experiment and do anything you want is on PC. The Morpheus will be a second rate, extremely limited experience in comparison.
 
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badb0y

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What is so shocking about this? They announced a while back the specs you would need to run this thing, did people not look up the prices of the parts required?

Most people who game on PC should have at least the minimum specs to run Oculus anyways.
 
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Soi-Fong

Member
badb0y said:
What is so shocking about this? They announced a while back the specs you would need to run this thing, did people not look up the prices of the parts required?

Most people who game on PC should have at least the minimum specs to run Oculus anyways.
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I think you guys overestimate the amount of users who have "high-end" parts in their rig.

I know a lot of PC gamers who are still gaming on GTX 560s and the sort and using dated processors.
 
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Man-is-Obsolete

Member
Was listening to a podcast (believe it was DLC) and they raised a good point that maybe we could see public places and stores and theme parks and gaming cafes spring up that will be places to pay to experience and use OR. Just like you can own pinball tables and arcade cabinets in home so too could you own OR. Otherwise the barrier of entry is quite high.
 
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therapist

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thats gonna be hard for most people to swallow.

I was interested , but thats simply too much.

Ill wait

i would need to upgrade my entire pc and buy this sooo ya....not for a while thats for sure
 
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Nyoro SF

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I don't understand how you could be shocked that VR requires firepower.

When I demoed the unit at PAX, the fuzzies and jaggies were unreal on the 3D battle title I was playing; and that was done with a generic prebuilt desktop.
 
lmimmfn

lmimmfn

Member
epmode said:
GAF is primarily a console-focused forum so you'll typically find uninformed people in threads that invite comparisons of PC and console hardware.
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Thanks, I just thought it was obvious from their recent requirements ststement
 
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King_Moc

Banned
Well, they said a 970 was the recommended graphics card. Not a shocking figure at all. They did say they would be targeting higher end consumers for the first few years.
 
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EmptySpace

Banned
YuShtink said:
There are millions of people out there with competent PCs. And in the next year millions more will be buying new ones as they always have.

These VR headsets aren't just another expensive accessory. They fundamentally shift the experience of interacting with computers. It opens up an entirely new medium for people to do all kinds of stuff. And the place where you can freely experiment and do anything you want is on PC. The Morpheus will be a second rate, extremely limited experience in comparison.
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as i've said, most will not give a shit that oculus can display more pixels as they won't value it that much higher than the morpheus. this is going to be ps1 and saturn all over again.
 
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ChronotriggerJM

Member
EmptySpace said:
as i've said, most will not give a shit that oculus can display more pixels as they won't value it that much higher than the morpheus. this is going to be ps1 and saturn all over again.
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I imagine if the HMD's are priced well enough, adoption even on PC could be surprisingly good. Rudimentary rigs will be able to run 360 movies and on rail media, laptops included I'd imagine. I think VR as a whole will do just fine
 
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MUnited83

For you.
TI82 said:
What, aren't people on youtube using it with midrange rigs?
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at lower resolutions than the consumer version. And with worse framerate. framerate is very important for VR.
Many of the tech demos people on youtube use it on are also quite limited graphically.
 
weevles

weevles

Member
This sounds about right. I hate to say it, but the thing that will drive sales of this (or any similar kind of product) is going to be Adult VR and p0rn and PC can go hand in hand in this regard.
 
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Dreamwriter

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King_Moc said:
Well, they said a 970 was the recommended graphics card. Not a shocking figure at all. They did say they would be targeting higher end consumers for the first few years.
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Not "recommended", minimum. You must have a 970 or better to use the Rift. Those specs were what Oculus was telling developers to design their apps around, to expect all computers to have. Oculus wants the Rift to be a "plug and play" experience, like a game console, and to do that they want to make sure all people have the same minimum experience (and 90fps, at the Rift resolution, in 3D, requires a beefy system).
 
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crinale

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Sony being electronics company by itself already gives a big cost advantage to morpheus . That being said we'd have to wait and see if either of those will be attractive product.
 
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Darryl M R

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The Witcher 3 has been the first game that made me think, "VR would be cool with this." Especially if there was first person. I'm going to keep an eye out on any news about Cyberpunk (there will be 1st and 3rd person) from CDPR and see if I will get a VR headset since by the time one is buyable Cyberpunk will be nearing release.

Has there been any reporting on motion sickness with VR headsets?
 
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