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[captscience]

I know. That's my point. The userbase size is dictating sales, not brand loyalty.

Yes but the tie ratio for DMC4 on the PS3 versus the ratio on 360 is far better than on previous mp titles.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Updated my post. Sorry that took a minute - I uploaded one that I thought was launch aligned but it wasn't.

Thanks, much appreciated.

 

[Iksenpets]

There is a little game called Super Smash Bros that came out this month that's going to crush everything, everywhere

How did I forget that?? :lol

All those all night sessions of Smash Bros must be getting to my brain.

 

[titiklabingapat]

What are Wii owners buying? Top selling console should have a better showing in the top 10.

There was no significant release during then whole month of February. Smash was in March.

 

[SnowDog]

If DMC sells better on the PS3 than the 360 in any country, it'll be because the 360 has a smaller audience. Not because of "brand loyalty". It outsold the PS3 version in the UK, and we used to such Sony's cock and beg for a money shot.

It was advantaged by the fact that the 360 version was priced $20 cheaper than the PS3 version in the UK

 

[MobiusPigeon]

I love 360 fans can't comprehend how much smaller the NA user base is. Did you fail math? How about you divide all the 360 software sales by 3 and post a new top ten list?

that never mattered in the ps2/xbox days. xbox still kept up in software sales. arguement failed. :lol

 

[Dante]

All any of us can do is comment on the information provided to us. That shows the 360 as a software selling beast. Selling nearing 5 times the PS3 software numbers.

Didn't you make a ban bet last month?

 

[gofreak]

The small gap for DMC4 is surprising. I guess it's safe to say it's sold better on PS3 overall worldwide so far? Shock, horror, etc..

As for other software, it'd be nice to have some insight on how PS3 stuff has been selling, proportionately. Judging by sonycowboy's comments I'm guessing it's been another fairly good month in that regard, but any specifics would be nice

 

[GremlinInTheMachine]

I'm going to guess that you're crazy.

With publishers saying they need to sell at least a million copies of a high end game to turn a profit, you think I'm crazy? Okay. Cognitive balancing is an interesting thing.

 

[Insane Metal]

How´s the PS3 doing in the US compared to other consoles? (PS2, GC, XB?)

 

[Narag]

It's cute when people think I'm a fanboy because I have an interest in numbers and want to discuss them objectively. Shows how pathetic the state of discourse is in NPD threads.

heh, i felt for you in the Ted Price thread. What a wreck.

 

[Mrbob]

Maybe NPD could indulge us and give us a top 11 then?

 

[RBH]

Lost Odyssey didn't sell well. It's sold ~200k in America, ~100k in Japan, and for argument's sake say it sells ~200k in Europe and then another ~100k across all three markets for the rest of its sales life.

That's still only 600k. That has to be a big financial loss when you add in the game's marketing budget.

Only 600k? :lol

I'm pretty sure that Microsoft and Mistwalker are very happy with Lost Odyssey's sales given how Blue Dragon bombed outside of Japan.

For an RPG not named Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey has sold pretty well.

 

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

Not in hardware sales. In software sales, only just given the LTD differences.

wait are you saying the ps3 has more HW sold in the UK than the 360?

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Is it possible to get numbers for Dragon Quest: Swords, Galaxy and Halo 3?

And No More Heroes.

 

[Zzoram]

Lost Odyssey didn't sell well. It's sold ~200k in America, ~100k in Japan, and for argument's sake say it sells ~200k in Europe and then another ~100k across all three markets for the rest of its sales life.

That's still only 600k. That has to be a big financial loss when you add in the game's marketing budget.

I think GAF overestimates the cost of making and marketing video games. Not every game has to be a million seller to profit (and the vast majority of games don't break a million).

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

For a Japanese RPG that doesn't have "Final fantasy" or "Dragon Quest" in the name, that's really good for initial sales. Square's sales numbers on their larger games skew perceptions of the entire genre as a whole as far as what we should expect from JRPG retail numbers

And more importantly, it exceeded expectations, I believe...which means...

!!!GROWN UP MACK AND COOKE SIDE PROJECT!!!

YES!! GOOD GUYS WIN, BAD GUYS DIE!!!!!

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

And No More Heroes.

you blind?

!!!GROWN UP MACK AND COOKE SIDE PROJECT!!!


DIE!!!!!

 

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

With publishers saying they need to sell at least a million copies of a high end game to turn a profit, you think I'm crazy? Okay. Cognitive balancing is an interesting thing.

publishers are also giving a % of game sales to the console makers. since this game is from MS they keep that money.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Uh, no.

The Wii beat the 360 for software last month and the month before. The DS demolishes its only competition by triple-digit factors, even taking into account install base differences. There's more to software than the top 10.

The PS3's software is poor, inside and outside the top 10. Not PSP level poor by any means, but certainly still fairly weak.

Really? Could you quote the source please?

 

[Oblivion]

How the heck did we get NMH numbers and not Galaxy's yet?

 

[Chinner]

still need mass effect nuimbers

 

[Xisiqomelir]

It's cute when people think I'm a fanboy because I have an interest in numbers and want to discuss them objectively. Shows how pathetic the state of discourse is in NPD threads.

Fanboys can only think in fanboy terms, why bother about it? :lol

 

[gtj1092]

OR, it could mean people bought other games on the 360. I do see a few of them on the top 10, is that just me?

Why is brand loyalty dismissed so readily on this forum. There is a such thing as brand loyalty it doesnt equate to fanboy. People are brand loyal to all sorts of products from cars to T.V.s so why wouldnt it equate to videogames.

 

[beef3483]

I wish we could move WiiPlay off the software charts and onto the accessory charts. It is clearly being bought as an extra controller, and since we only get 10 slots a month for software sales it feels like a waste having it on the top 10 list.

It will make up for Wii Fit not being counted as software sales.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

you blind?

Your selective quoting is hurtful to all that is good and charming about being a gamer and gaming with games.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Really? Could you quote the source please?

We know December but January is news to me.

 

[Captain Smoker]

And No More Heroes.

37.000 units ^^

http://www.thesimexchange.com/blogpost.php?post_id=482


102.000 LTD then.

 

[neptunes]

With publishers saying they need to sell at least a million copies of a high end game to turn a profit, you think I'm crazy? Okay. Cognitive balancing is an interesting thing.

a relatively niche genre, selling the numbers you've proposed (on a console not known for many of them) is considered a failure?

I still think it might do a little more than 300K for it entire LTD. I can see this game continuing to sell well after it goes "platinum hits". Just like with FFX on the ps2.

 

[JCreasy]

Wow at PS2 sales. Wonder if xbox 1 sales would still be good if MS were still manufacturing them.

I see what you did there.

 

[Busaiku]

There was no significant release during then whole month of February. Smash was in March.

Also keep in mind, that the top 10 doesn't decide total sales.
It's just a small percentage.
The rest of the list could favor Wii over 360 again.

 

[titiklabingapat]

Maybe NPD could indulge us and give us a top 11 then?

Just substitute Wii Play and Wii Sports, and there's your "true" top ten. And soon, Wii Fit since it counts as an accessory.


edit: beaten.

 

[NeoUltima]

Didn't you make a ban bet last month?

He did...

So Perma ban bet then for Feb. NPD. I say 360 beats the PS3 but I am sure you are saying Sony vs Microsoft. Anyone want to take that bet?

But I don't think anyone took the bet.

 

[Ariexv]

With publishers saying they need to sell at least a million copies of a high end game to turn a profit, you think I'm crazy? Okay. Cognitive balancing is an interesting thing.

Who's really saying that? For a JRPG 600,000 is pretty damn good if it's not tittled FF or Dragon Quest

 

[AceBandage]

And No More Heroes.

37K putting it at 102K LTD in the US alone.

 

[harSon]

Lost Odyssey didn't sell well. It's sold ~200k in America, ~100k in Japan, and for argument's sake say it sells ~200k in Europe and then another ~100k across all three markets for the rest of its sales life.

That's still only 600k. That has to be a big financial loss when you add in the game's marketing budget.

It sold roughly 500,000-600,000 at retail but it most likely shipped a lot more which is all that really matters to publishers/developers. 500,000-600,000 in itself would cover the games development costs.

 

[bishoptl]

y helo thar

 

[Danielsan]

Lost Odyssey didn't sell well. It's sold ~200k in America, ~100k in Japan, and for argument's sake say it sells ~200k in Europe and then another ~100k across all three markets for the rest of its sales life.

That's still only 600k. That has to be a big financial loss when you add in the game's marketing budget.

What are you smoking. 500k is great especially for a Mistwalker jrpg on a primarily western focussed console. Not every game needs to sell over a million to make a profit you know.

Sheesh this is like the people pissing in Suda's cornflakes all over again.

 

[Kitschkraft]

Anyone have any lifetime numbers on my baby, Mass Effect?

 

[HocusPocus]

Looks like the 360 is closing the gap this year with the PS3. They inched closer this month than last. The tide is turning!

 

[schuelma]

Congrats bish

 

[Lince]

PS2 is in legendary status now

 

[Shepherd]

Another benchmark of note is that the 360 passed the 10 Million mark in USA+Japan. Of course the Wii is still crushing everyone.

Wii 13,522,759
360 10,161,730
PS3 5,722,241

 

[titiklabingapat]

Also keep in mind, that the top 10 doesn't decide total sales.
It's just a small percentage.
The rest of the list could favor Wii over 360 again.

Exactly. The nature of the Wii userbase does seem to indicate that this is the case: see December 2007 numbers.

 

[gtj1092]

that never mattered in the ps2/xbox days. xbox still kept up in software sales. arguement failed. :lol

In what world?

 

[besada]

Good to see LO get some love. I continued to be amused by people who think 600K sales is bad on an RPG.

Great numbers for the PS3. Astonishing numbers for the PS2. Wii continues to consume the soul of gamerdom.

Bishoptl, y'all happy with those Turok numbers? We rarely get a devs take on their own numbers. Want to give us one?

 

[jj984jj]

OMG Layton and LO did fantastic!

And :O @ DMC4 360 > DMC4 PS3. This and the way PS2 keeps selling really differentiates NA's gaming market from the rest of the world.

Edit: NMH is doing well too, tSE is just crazy.

 

[Grecco]

Grats Bish

 

[GremlinInTheMachine]

so 600k in the first month for a game isnt good?

It isn't for the first month. It would be for the game's entire sales life.

 

[gtj1092]

It was advantaged by the fact that the 360 version was priced $20 cheaper than the PS3 version in the UK

As well as all the commercials ending in the xbox logo.