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Pokemon Ultra Moon and Ultra Sun for Nintendo 3DS
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lvl99 Pixel
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Make them entirely skippable then. Even with animations off you have to watch the trainer dancing.
NightwingRebirth
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I genuinely liked the "Mega Evolution is bad, how could you, trainer?" entries, tbh. Pokedex entries have always been filled up with untrue things anyways, so it was just a bunch of cool bits talking about how crazy Megas would be if they could exist outside of battles, too.
And while I also do like Z-Moves, I agree that this franchise is getting a little too convoluted, or at least it will a generation or two from now. But that happens to every long running series.
whynotboth.bmp
Though i never minded Z-Moves. Never used them either (the long ass animations were annoying) but i don't think they ruin the flow of the game like megas or UBs did. In fact most of them were all bark and no bite, taking a super effective z-powered move that barely took half of your life never got old.
Make it a normal evolution. you know, that stuff every pokemon had before gen VI
It's not like Mawile have tons of evolutions to spare
I keep telling people those new Pokedex entries are likely their subtle way of not wanting to make anymore Mega Pokemon. At least I hope it is lmao
Frankly, Alolan Forms is what they should've done all along, hope they keep at it.
At least UBs can become something interesting. Megas are just boring though.
lvl99 Pixel
Member
its just awful world building going from:
Mega is when trainer and pokemon are super in tune with each other
to
Mega is the devil incarnate
Hey i'm not against this at all. If gamefreak made megas become normal evolutions I would love it.
Not if you always thought it was the devil incarnate
Mega Lucario and Charizard look cool tho
NightwingRebirth
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I highly doubt new UBs will ever show up after Ultra SM, but I really do hope we get more regional variants. It's a cool idea that actually makes sense, too. I expect we'll get a few new ones in this game, betting on like 5 new Johto ones (to coincide with GS VC).
I would support this idea if it meant getting 4-stage evolution lines. Because I need Mega Swampert.
Have you considered that trainers, who collect slaves to fight the slaves of other collectors, might already be the devil incarnate? /s
I don't really care if they don't make another Ultra Beast, or some other storyline involving them after Gen 7. I'm just saying, that if I had to decide between them and Mega Evolutions, it's gonna be Ultra Beasts easily, because they have far more potential, and don't look nearly as lazy to boot.
But yes, regional variants do make the most sense, and that's what I'm actually excited for.
AlexFlame116
Member
I want Mega Typhlosion and Mega Ho-Oh...
The UBs are just a denonym for some rare and strong Pokémon(not really unique on their own realm, the Ultra Space) kind of like you had the legendary birds, the legendary dogs, etc.
The problem is that they seemed to completely try to hide one gimmick under the rug in favor of another, what was wrong in adding say a few more megas while keeping Z moves in the spotlight? Maybe it also might have to do with regional biases within the game's lore, probably in Alola people have that perception of mega Pokémon but doesn't mean it's entirely the case.
NightwingRebirth
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don't give up hope, fam. GS VC means Johto Pokemon will finally be relevant in time for a mainline game, if we were ever going to get these, it'd be now.
I wonder what an Alolan Typhlosion would look like, tho.
Everything.
We need less, not more
And knowing gamefreak and their complete lack of common sense they would probably just add a mega megasalamence anyway
You can make the game more fun through regional variants as opposing to make Megas imo
I don't really have much of an opinion of Z-Moves, although I guess did avoid them for a reason during my playthrough...
You know what was fun? Gen 1 and 2
Yeah right im one of those gosh darn it genwunners. Sue me.
Real talk though gen 5 is still the best gen and had none of this gimmick fiesta. you don't need them to make a pokemon game fun.
Probably the 5 minute long animations
I'd gladly take both. Variety is fun, killing off a mechanic isn't
Of course they don't need them explicitly, doesn't mean that they don't make the game a hell of a lot more interesting and add to team variety. They don't take away anything that wasn't already there so I don't see an actual reason for people to get so hung up over them.
Hey, you can keep the Megas we have now. Just... don't make more. ;D
Or just use regular evolutions.
Eh, you can actually catch the GSC starters on the wild on SM using the QR scanner, they come with one egg move even. For example, on Mondays you can catch a Totodile with Metal Claw on Seaward Cave.
On the contrary, I don't think they should ditch, but I fear it'll also happen to Z moves come next generation.
lvl99 Pixel
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all the time I consider the franchise to be kind of fucked up morally lol
but its been so cartoony (until recently with trash like origins/generations that took itself so seriously) that it hasnt mattered really
Yeah, you're right. I was in some other thread earlier (Pokémon Direct?) and it seemed like everyone was calling it garbage.
Nah, we should get more. Really goofy shit too. Megas allow more of a power jump than regular evos because you can only have one, and they aren't gonna start handing out 4 stages and split evos to stuff like starters anyway so why not
GiantBreadbug
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Continue to add all of the following to every Pokémon game pls:
- Megas
- Z Moves
- "Alien Pokémon" a la UBs
- Regional Variants
"Pokémon is getting too convoluted" is a non-statement that conveniently dodges explaining exactly what is so bad about expanding battle and design variety. If you don't like the shit, then don't use it. Not hard.
- Megas
- Z Moves
- "Alien Pokémon" a la UBs
- Regional Variants
"Pokémon is getting too convoluted" is a non-statement that conveniently dodges explaining exactly what is so bad about expanding battle and design variety. If you don't like the shit, then don't use it. Not hard.
AlexFlame116
Member
Yeah, you're right. I was in some other thread earlier (Pokémon Direct?) and it seemed like everyone was calling it garbage.
People were (are still) salty back then.
Found it!
It got the release date wrong by a week, though.
Oh, this is interesting!
lvl99 Pixel
Member
it really isnt. The game used to be more kind of quaint and funny like Earthbound in a way before all the weird melodrama, ultra beasts, Z moves megas and putting pokemon death front and center.
You can add options without constantly retconning and adding stuff that feels right out of really bad fanfiction
NightwingRebirth
Member
I know, I have them all, lol. I just don't consider that being relevant the way, say, Charizard is because it's in everything. GS VC at least means there's a reason to bank on Johto nostalgia, and I'm hoping it results in more than just catching the Starters in the wild.
Also, yeah, good point about Z-Moves. I kinda feel like they'll be ditched, too. Honestly, they feel less marketable than Megas, and that basically tells me they'll be left behind for whatever new mechanic they come up with.
This, 100%.
so Lavender Town
I actually have never played all of Gen. 1, only the last bits of Red leading up to and including the Elite Four and all of Yellow up to Lt. Surge, so playing through FireRed was my first time seeing the ghost. I was thoroughly shook as a child. I wonder if new games have an effect on kids on the same level as that? Maybe Floette or Lusamine, idk...
lvl99 Pixel
Member
I meant as violent animals, not people celebrating their Pokemon with a graveyard.
It doesn't work when your world revolves around a sport where they fight each other.
If they can insta kill each other in the wild, you're doing hospital visits every few minutes after getting them to fight.
im like this close to just giving up on the games because of that aspect these days since the last thing in the world I want to see is cute creatures being hurt.
HawthorneKitty
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Nah, no more UBs, I fear they'll accidentally make one too powerful.
Found it!
It got the release date wrong by a week, though.
Hype restored.
Save me from this mediocre direct, E3
Lmao at people wanting less features.
Have you ever seen a kid's face after you tell them you can get a Kyurem and fusing it with the Zekrom they just caught?
Or when you tell them how to get a Zygarde that transforms into a Megazord?
That alone tells you how different it is for the actual target audience who's not into serebii.netting their way into a full dex.
Hopefully GF won't ever take features from a Pokemon generation again.
Have you ever seen a kid's face after you tell them you can get a Kyurem and fusing it with the Zekrom they just caught?
Or when you tell them how to get a Zygarde that transforms into a Megazord?
That alone tells you how different it is for the actual target audience who's not into serebii.netting their way into a full dex.
Hopefully GF won't ever take features from a Pokemon generation again.
I mean, it's not like they're all cute. And it's not like we haven't been breeding genetically superior super babies and releasing/giving away the bad ones for over a decade
lvl99 Pixel
Member
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
you know, people were burned because of a leak
are people seriously still going for it?
are people seriously still going for it?
Might not be the franchise for you then lol
Heh, also you just reminded me of Little Cup
lvl99 Pixel
Member
depends how the next game treats these things
I mean they "tried" with putting them on an island instead of being stored on a PC
It aint going to happen. If they didn't announce it today, it doesn't exist. Honestly I think Ultra SM was just a somewhat lucky guess. Could of just gotten it from Ultra beasts.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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That leak is most likely going to turn out fake because it feels like it is really reaching at this point.
You mean like Lavender Town in the original? Also, I don't really see the Earthbound comparison.
I'd sacrifice all of these for some actual new evolutions tbh.
Found it!
It got the release date wrong by a week, though.
GAF dont do this to me, my heart cant take the hype and disappointment
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