Exactly. That's why Sony was targeted for this campaign. If one folded, the others would hopefully fall in line.#PS4NoDRM is confirmed explicitly by Sony to have influenced Sony's decisions on the DRM front and helped codify the message within the company, and also led to hundreds of news stories which increased awareness with consumers (leading to massively one-sided public perception like with the Amazon poll). That reassurance from consumers led to the confident Sony E3 press conference and Jack Tretton's crowd-pleaser, which fueled even more DRM awareness and pressure on Microsoft.
You're not framing it accurately.
Let's fix the HDD being locked into the Xbox!
Has this been posted? Online play for PS4 won't work outside supported regions?
http://www.gamesreviews.com/news/06/ps4-online-blocked-for-countries-without-a-store/
Don't know if I should start a thread for that or maybe someone already made one, but that's a big problem for Sony users.
#PS4NoDRM is confirmed explicitly by Sony to have influenced Sony's decisions on the DRM front and helped codify the message within the company, and also led to hundreds of news stories which increased awareness with consumers (leading to massively one-sided public perception like with the Amazon poll). That reassurance from consumers led to the confident Sony E3 press conference and Jack Tretton's crowd-pleaser, which fueled even more DRM awareness and pressure on Microsoft.
You're not framing it accurately.
GAF deserves credit.
In this instance, the noise GAF made helped media and press pick up on the situation. They, in turn, escalated the issue even further. Sony deliberately used the media and consumer noise on DRM at the E3 conference to make it seem like a huge deal, and it ended up growing further and ended all over the mainstream. Even if Sony didn't intend on implementing any DRM like MS, they weren't aware that it would cause this huge of a fuss, and they took advantage of that. I guarantee you that. I've seen the E3 script before it was finalised. I know their notes.
The credit for this change and mass attention comes back to this campaign. This is where it began. So, no, whilst MS didn't solely change policies thanks to this, this effort was incredible and lovely to see. It started that domino effect that escalated this to an issue which could not be ignored. Everyone played their part, but GAF was there at the beginning to start that ripple effect.
The positive light on Sony has led to demand being very favourable for the PS4. The recent pre-order data, combined with the rest, likely made Microsoft think they need to back out now or it's going to be game over before the console even gets a serious chance.
Quoted for truth.#PS4NoDRM is confirmed explicitly by Sony to have influenced Sony's decisions on the DRM front and helped codify the message within the company, and also led to hundreds of news stories which increased awareness with consumers (leading to massively one-sided public perception like with the Amazon poll). That reassurance from consumers led to the confident Sony E3 press conference and Jack Tretton's crowd-pleaser, which fueled even more DRM awareness and pressure on Microsoft.
You're not framing it accurately.
Has this been posted? Online play for PS4 won't work outside supported regions?
http://www.gamesreviews.com/news/06/ps4-online-blocked-for-countries-without-a-store/
Don't know if I should start a thread for that or maybe someone already made one, but that's a big problem for Sony users.
You're trying way too hard. If you want to thread shit, at least do it clearly. Of course, you can continue your stint in trolling if you like, but doing it in this thread probably isn't the wisest choice.
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I'm not trolling. I mean it. I hate the no-used games policies and the AAA games market (as it is now). BOTH are something that's just bound to fail. No-used policies are the first step, but hopefully the AAA market will follow.
Because you cannot create AAA multi-million dollar games that due to their high budgets NEED to play it EXTREMLY save and thus have such a low replay value that people just don't want them to keep and rather sell them to finance the next, focus-tested, pseudo-cinematic shootbang shitfest --- AND, at the same time, expect people to NOT trade them in like there is no tomorrow.
It's a vicious circle that the big publishers tried to get out off - but they just can't - as we have seen now. People will NEVER accept NO-USED policies.
So I couldn't be happier. Soon I hope the big AAA games will fall and the variety come back!!
There was already a thread about it.
All they were saying apparently was that countries without a PS Store won't be able to get PS+ to access multiplayer... but most people who live in those countries just get PS+ from the US/UK/Japan/etc and may just get their online multiplayer that way.
However, we don't have 100% confirmation that it will work. We just know that all the services work when you sign up for another region's PS+ now, so the assumption is that it'll be the same for the PS4.
This is possibly the biggest, most successful coordinated consumer action ever undertaken.
It's literally for the history books. People will read about it in marketing classes from here to eternity. It's two of the biggest fucking conglomerates in the world changing their entire delivery system because of the backlash.
It's bigger than New Coke.
Holy fuck famous mortimer. Holy fuck Neogaf.
The slogan for this gaming forum has never been so accurate/relevant and probably would never be this relevant again.
Finally, Whitten could not give any reassurance that Microsoft will not change its policies in the future.
I get what you're saying, but GAF did get the ball rolling. It is sad that it had to snowball into a mammoth to get MS to change though. However the important thing is: they 180'd, and have begun to climb out of the massive hole they dug.
#salute
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GAF >>>>>Sony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money > MS.