I strongly suggest, and only because I care about you and all your future ambitions, that you use the PS5pro as an opportunity to improve your leaks through teasing game.For now but by the time I can people won’t care
GTA VI is the only reason I'll be getting a PS5 Pro. Otherwise, I'm plenty happy with my 6700 XT.
That's an oversimplification of the math though.
Only if sony start to taking their first party titles out of their ass.. this launch strategy will be interesting... because right now they have fucking nothing to justify it.
After the PS4 Pro came out, they were something like 20% of units sold. I would expect a lower number from PS5 Pro, honestly. I dont think this one has the selling point that the PS4 Pro did.
I had a PS4 Pro at launch, and you basically went from like 1080p to 1800p with CBR, so not quite.
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I expect the PS5pro to sell better than the PS4pro did. I don't know why people are so fixated on the resolution thing, The PS5pro doesn't need some sort of resolution sticker to sell well. It just has to be the best console hardware on the market or the best way to experience any console game. That will be enough. Especially if you need to spend over $1000 to get an equivalent PC.
here's the thing. Nobody cares about graphics settings and ray tracing performance and upscaling algorithms all that shit except for the types who post on forums like this. If they did, then the 4090 would have sold like the Switch. But all that nerd shit is the only thing the PS5 Pro has to sell itself on. Resolution is actually the one thing that normies understand, and the PS4 Pro's sales pitch was "get this if you want the best looking games on your new 4K TV". Very simple.
Thats what I’m thinking as well. How do they even market this to the masses. Most people probably dont even know what ray tracing is or PSRR or whatever else. What are they putting on the box to market this.
Why do people ask this question? The people this is targeted for are not casuals/"normies", its for people who want the best performance in a console. Simple, plays the same games with better performance/resolution. This is not for average Joe. There are more and more PS5 games with performance modes hitting 1080p and sometimes lower, this can fix that, especially with the "bespoke" upscaling solution.
It’s targeted for everyone. Believe it or not there are still alot of gamers to sell a PS5 too that haven’t bought one yet. They will still need some marketing to market this and I’m not sure what that is.
Casuals aren't paying $600 for the Pro version of a console. The marketing is no different than Nvidia/AMD announcing a new lineup of GPUs. People just expect better performance. You don't need some big sales pitch. Just explain the benefits clearly and the people who care about having the best experience on a console will pay for it.
All consoles are closed platforms, meaning if u got fidelity and performance modes u give up on something.
Yups, especially for ppl who prefer/play 60fps modes we wanna have that bump in IQ which is in many demanding current gen only games goes down to switch like resolutions and mind u, resolution below 1080p native looks extremly blurry on 4k screen, additional cpu power for smoothing out those dips below 60 is most welcome too
You would need a 4070 minimum and to spend at least $1200 total on the entire PC to match the Pro. So not only would be the Pro be cheaper but not everyone games on PC or consoles. So no, low spec won’t be enough to match the Pro.
The Pro would have a newer GPU architecture which would allow for better raytracing and a ML based upscaler (PSSR). Take the 7800XT out and replace with a 4070 and you have something that should be equal or better in every metric. You would need to drop to a 1TB to keep the price roughly the same.
That would be superior in raster agreed and especially in cpu limited games but in raytracing benchmarks it will get comprehensively beaten, especially complex ones such as cyberpunk etc. That being said its double the price of the pro so the pro retains its value proposition.
Ofc, still if some1 is looking for what u can place ps5pr0 vs modern pc's that is where price/perf wise, i could get cheaper cpu to only be on pair, 1tb ssd and different gpu but the parts i have chosen look like biggest bang for ur buck so im stick to this.
The have a hate boner for anything playstation does
It's not hard. Just compare FF7 Rebirth side by side between performance mode and 60FPS quality mode. The former looks like a turd while 30FPS quality mode is unplayable
FF16 and Rebirth getting Pro patches would be a dream come true. Forbidden West 60 FPS mode is good but not perfect, I also think that would benefit heavily from the Pro
The Pro isn't for the masses, like the PSVR2 it'll be a niche product marketed to Gamers who want the best and have the disposable income to just go out and buy it, same way Nvidia make obscenely priced and quite ludicrous 4090 cards, there is a market, whilst not huge it's still a profitable market that will keep Sony in the headlines
You can trade your base model with a PRO, not so so expensive. It's up to you.
Thats perfectly fine too, myself on the other hand didnt buy ps5 as soon as we knew how weak it is, now in few months pr0 will be perfect opportunity to jump in, there is many current gen games/exclusives, and even more incoming, including gta6, so it will be money well spent and will last me at the very least till holiday 2028.I'll be saving my money for Playstation 6. It's an endless ratrace if you always need the top of the line. I'm perfectly fine with my PS5 as there are barely any exclusives(I want) on it.
But I know many here have been waiting eagerly for it so good for them that it finally materializes.
Ok if we want to nitpick - it was 1440p/1.8x (which also turned out to be the most common PS4Pro upgrade) - but majority of those titles also ran better than original or had other enhancements.
See above regarding GPU scaling - it's not linear the way people think it is (and it gets even messier if we dive into details of resolution invariable parts of the frame - of which there are plenty, but I don't want to get lost in the weeds).
Regular PS5 already ran at higher native res than 1800cbr in performance mode - so that'd be arguing Pro can't even keep up with the base console.
Let's see - personally I think people grossly overestimate CPU impact on world-detail (and especially pop-in) in console games, mainly on account of 2+ decades of PC market being a shit-show in that respect. But to be fair - it's highly variable with the software stack, so it's possible it lands on either side of bottlenecks and we don't have any console benchmarks for this engine.
So much wrong here... where does one even start.
Bro, we know exactly how ps5pr0 gpu gonna look, its downclocked 7800xt https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839
Do the PS guys not know you're in spencers private discord lol.For now but by the time I can people won’t care
This. $500 with AI upscaling and decent RT will look like great deal compared to Nvidia prices.
So devs who got devkits are saying exactly what DF is saying and u telling me sony somehow gets apu that is much more advanced? Why would devs get much weaker devkits then? Silicon for ps5pr0 is already set in stone, for months, we wont get better one.
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I doubt there is any big difference in performance between RDNA3 and RDNA4 outside of raytracing and AI capabilities. Just like RDNA1/2/3 are very similar in regular rasterization. Seems rather likely the 7800XT will outperform the Pro when RT is not involved.
I will. Sony doesn't need most to upgrade. That's not the point.
