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Ready at Dawn responds to "concern" over The Order: 1886 campaign length
- Thread starter DarkLordMalik
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lol, please tell me that was sarcasm.
bananafactory
Banned
I disagree I had never played Fez or Spelunky and am happy they were brought to PS4.
You needed a PC every gen before last if you wanted to play big FPS titles. You were lucky if they got a console port a year late. What are you even talking about, really?
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
It's still a business trying to maximize profits before opinions begin to flood the Internet. Lifting the embargo has a substantiallly greater impact on sales than some early reviews by early releases. The way I see it, if I'm RAD: "I think our product is great but will be quite divisive. Let us try to gain exposure before people decide the game isn't for them before even playing it."
You can see it as deceit, and in many cases it is if the game is a technical mess, but I don't think RAD released a bad product. The reactions on this forum tell the whole story.
bananafactory
Banned
Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I don't know if The Order is good or bad because I haven't played it, but embargos are in place for a variety of reasons, not all of which are due to quality of the game.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
They must have took 25+ minute share button breaks for almost every chapter.
Nailed it.
I dont think RAD has been acting dickish at all like some other devs, quite on the contrary. If I do purchase the game at this point it will be more to support them so they can grow and deliver more than anything else.
But the emargo is the day before, not the day of... Or do people not know this?
Or are people just trying to justify throwing more shit around?
Ah ha ha ha!!! These GAF The Order threads sure are something. This game is hate-bait for sure...
Dragonborn
Member
You realize embargoes are set by sony, not RaD, right?
Miles Quaritch
Member
This is a mild. For real hate, you should check out Ryse threads prior to release.
KennyLinder
Member
Can't stop watching that Spanish video. His fucking laugh man, hahaha!
It should be done for every game coming out from now on :-D
It should be done for every game coming out from now on :-D
Yup, and if the game get's bad scores. You know the people whove been hating on it will be all "We told ya so!"
:/
His Majesty
Banned
From a publisher point of view it makes sense; keep the consumer as long as possible in the dark about possible shortcomings or controversial aspects of the game. But of course this opens up your game for (unfounded) rumours. Developer & publisher shouldn't complain about the 5 hour length rumour because it wouldn't exist if the embargo was set earlier.
Ubisoft tried it and got massacred in the press for setting the embargo past the release date. No sane publisher will try that again. But 16 hours before release is still way too close.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
Eh...
Something about a video with audio of people speaking a well known language being used to pretend they're saying something else doesn't strike me as funny. If it was in gif. form and I didn't know exactly what they were saying, that'd be one thing, but this is pretty stupid.
I think we should put way more weight to numbers we can indeed check instead of numbers someone is stating.
Omnistalgic
Member
It took ND 4 games to get to TlOU. I will offer R&D the same courtesy and suoport their first efforts.
That's great to hear. IMO this whole 5 hour thing has been waaay overblown.
Does anyone know if pre load on PSN is up? My net connection is terrible and I'll probably need 2 days of downloading to get the game haha
Yeah but Ryse was pure horse sh*t though... (I kid)
Enosh
Member
reviewers no, but I'd trust full gameplay videos over random gaf post
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
1: length is not most important to everyone
2: basing the length on a YouTube playthrough I think at this point has been shown to be not indicative of any game's length. Certainly not for me.
So why so many posts about the length for this game? What is it about this game that generates so much discussion?
2: basing the length on a YouTube playthrough I think at this point has been shown to be not indicative of any game's length. Certainly not for me.
So why so many posts about the length for this game? What is it about this game that generates so much discussion?
Posted?
http://www.vg247.com/2015/02/18/the-order-1886-attracts-uncanny-haterade-says-director/
You have to realise most of the post are from people adding on to the hate who never wanted to buy the game anyway.
http://www.vg247.com/2015/02/18/the-order-1886-attracts-uncanny-haterade-says-director/
You have to realise most of the post are from people adding on to the hate who never wanted to buy the game anyway.
wanderingprostheyltite
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I think because people are starved for new exclusive IPs, and really want this to be a meaty experience. Some people want this to be the next TLOU, and that ain't gonna happen. As others have said, give RAD some time. They just might release their equivalent down the road, but this here's only the beginning.
Shadow_FFVI
Member
Maybe it took them actually wanting to make that kind of game. Divorcing themselves from the cinematic formula provided in the Uncharted series, for a while.
Ready at Dawn will have to deliver one of the games of the generation on their next try (Naughty Dog made Uncharted 2).
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
If that were the case why was Sunset Overdrive topics so glossed over? A game by the way that has a less than 10 hours to beat in How Long to Beat as well. Are we that forgiving of open world games?
nobodyshero
Banned
I think the underlying issue is a lot of people, whether they admit it or not, just aren't happy that The Order isn't the type of game they want it to be, with it's super linear QTE driven focus.
D1renegade
Member
cool. They compared their game with good steak; I did that the other day as well. The circle is complete.
EightBitNate
Member
Its open world + it had multiplayer. Infamous's runtime was glossed over too since it had the morale system.
nobodyshero
Banned
Infamous took me a solid 8 hours, and could have been more if I wanted to do more of its terrible side content. I wouldn't classify Infamous as an overly short game by any stretch
TheCanisDirus
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Where did you get this information from exactly?
Shadow_FFVI
Member
They must have drown in all that atmosphere.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
If you take the hltb Sunset estimate an the youtube playthough, then it is nearly twice as long as The Order.
EightBitNate
Member
I platinumed it. Each storyline took about 4ish hours. I really enjoyed it, but it's not like there's a whole lot different between good and evil stories.
bananafactory
Banned
God damn what the hell is wrong with me?
My first Infamous play was 12-15 hours and the second one still took me 10.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
I think because this is a cinematic action game with strong focus on narrative, which at this budget level we're not used to seeing all that often. Open world games are a dime a dozen, and while Sunset was an exclusive I think games like that tend to have less impact on collective mind share over a long period than these do. For all I know Order will be a largely forgettable experience long term, but after tlou these are the kinds of games people get more excited for I believe, and have more expectations of.
nobodyshero
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No, I agree. I just think that, in terms of being able to strictly justify replayability, the skill trees/morality/side content makes it more fully featured as a game. Whether or not any of that extra stuff is worthwhile is a whole other story, but it is there.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Yeah... Um. 4 hrs?! That's gotta be a mad dash sprint through everything, know exactly where everything blast the main missions only play through. Lol I was somewhere in the 12ish as well and only completed the hero side.
EightBitNate
Member
Maybe you're remembering wrong? Lol. I don't think it could have taken you 15 hours to get through the story mode. Maybe if you factor in exploring the city and stuff? It's hard to measure the playtimes of open world games, but the campaign itself was definitely really short.
Yeah going back for the collectables was probably like 4 or 5 extra hours.
Stupid sign twirlers
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
And I am sure a YouTube playthrough of Sunset going from point a to b and no side stuff can be found as well that is closer to 6 hours.
Which is to my greater point, why the fuss over how someone else played and beat the game? Unless that person is you then that shouldn't predicate how you will enjoy it and how long it will take for you to finish.
brandonh83
Banned
Games like that and Infamous are mostly gameplay and there's lots to do. You're actually playing those like 99% of the time and the size of the environments are pretty damn big. The reason people are concerned about this game is because its a linear shooter with 2 hours of cutscenes. You can't really just take any games' length and compare it to the reason why people are concerned about The Order. Sunset Ovedrive and Infamous are all about the gameplay and you can spend so much time in them and there's tons of content. The Order is very straightforward and aside from the shooting there doesn't seem to be much else to do. That's why people didn't complain about the length in the games you're exampling.
People are just throwing any game that's less than 10 hours into this context but it's completely and utterly missing the point.
bananafactory
Banned
15 might be a bit long but it was definitely at least 12, I remember it took more than 2 sessions of at least 6 hours each. But I did spend quite a bit of time looking for some of the blast shards, I think I might have spent an hour or two searching for the last one until I realized it was tied to a campaign mission.
4 hours seems totally nuts though, it took me roughly 45 mins to 1 hour to clear out each district of the city.
EightBitNate
Member
Sorry I meant about 4 hours for each campaign, not 4 hours altogether. Not including spray painting and clearing out the city.
nobodyshero
Banned
to be fair, i think the order can only be played this one way haha. there doesn't seem to be a lot of room for expanding the experience, even if you wanted to.
i'm firmly in the camp of not minding the short length of the game, whatever that length may be.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
The youtuber didn't do that, though. Also, where as there is nothing else to do in The Order but follow the story where as SSO has a lot of side content and also multiplayer, this probably isn't a particularly good example.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Ok so the sole reason The Order is so talked about is because a youtuber beat it in 5 and half hours and aside from replaying he game for fun there is no incentive to replay?
Huh, and people wonder why the Ubisoft gameplay model is becoming so prevalent.