moltonasty
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Sorry to break it to you but Street pass is confirmed dead just like miiverse.
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Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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Sorry to break it to you but Street pass is confirmed dead just like miiverse.
Twenty7KVN
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It might be fine for you but it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. It's Nintendo trying to be different in their typical backwards way. This app could be great and i know i said i would hold judgement,but the more i think about it the more stupid it sounds.
What's stopping Nintendo from only allowing you to receive your game for free if you purchase it through the app, as you initially implied they may only allow all matchmaking through the app after the full version releases? And what's the functional difference between "grant" and "enforce" with respect to your argument.
My point is that you suggested the app may be required for something you know is not stated on the online services web site, and is in fact contradicted.
Street pass is dead.
Miiverse too.
Now pay me for this quality online service while we kill some more features.
That would assume that app has also an eshop component. Sure, it's possible, but Nintendo already has a dedicated service for rewards, My Nintendo.
Guess what: Sony HAS an app for smartphones that does exactly this! The difference is that it's an option, I can voice chat THROUGH THE PS4 and view my messages on my phone.
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Dark Cloud
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Who is this really going to impact in the end? This isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things (especially since we don't know the full details). Yes, it will impact some, but I want to see how it plays out.
That's not coming til the end of the year anyways. Nintendo needs to explain it, but focus on selling systems which should be easy the first month. After that they want it to turn into a demand for casuals to want to buy it so they have a nice install base to attract some more western third party devs.
That's not coming til the end of the year anyways. Nintendo needs to explain it, but focus on selling systems which should be easy the first month. After that they want it to turn into a demand for casuals to want to buy it so they have a nice install base to attract some more western third party devs.
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And even if the rewards would be handled also through the smartphone app, where's the contradiction? How does this invalidate the matchmaking?
And games will already have their own matchmaking services.
Agreed, and I do use it. I was just pointing out that I can see it working, it's not a be-all-end-all situation for me like it seems to be for others.
sir_bumble_bee
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This is where I stand too. But still, gotta love GAF meltdowns on Nintendo news
The matchmaking is per game basis. That's why I said that maybe the future games after the app is out could use it for everything.
Dark Cloud
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We don't know if we can't voice chat through the Switch. It has a input for headset and mic.
In the end it won't be a big deal. Either people will hate it and don't purchase it or some will. If I have to pay for online then well what can I do? Everybody else does that and I can't blame them for it.
All I care about is the amount of games and quality of games.
Bro do you need a hug? Cause I can give you one...
1. My Xbox One has a Kinect, which does this as an actual accessory.
2. I can snap apps on the X1 so I don't even need my phone to do those things.
3. I don't need a battery to chat or do anything else with the X1.
4. I don't even need a headset with the X1 (with Kinect). Without Kinect the X1 controller is a wireless chat receiver...no extra hardware.
Nintendo is doing all this backwards, this whole phone to chat/lobby up thing is crazy, lol. It's should be an option ONLY.
Having said that...I'll just be using the Switch as a mobile system anyway...and don't care about chat/multiplayer on the go. Heh
Okami Haundo
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This seems to be the main argument that's been going in circles for quite some time now. We have two main facts that people keep falling back to:
- Nintendo/Reggie have stated that voice chat/matchmaking work through the dedicated app.
- Nintendo/Reggie have not given us any details about built in OS functions besides a brief glimpse of the "home" screen.
Based on point number 1, it seems highly likely that the OS itself won't allow for voice chat. This isn't confirmed, but we have enough information to make an assumption (right or wrong).
My bet is that we'll have a Direct soon that details the OS for day one. It doesn't seem likely at this point that they'll say the Switch can do voice chat without the app, but it's on them to clarify that either way. Either way, you can't really blame people for assuming that voice chat can only be done via the app.
Hopefully it's just ONE app and not three like PlayStation.
I agree that it's best if it were optional.
You were suggesting it would be required, and that that was an example of the app enforcing the subscription. I'm not sure how else I'm supposed to interpret that than you suggesting that I have to have the subscription to use the app, and I have to use the app to utilize the subscription, such as play online as before the app.
Mass Appeal
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Wouldn't be a meltdown if Nintendo was more clear about their hardware like Sony/MS usually are. We new about their OS 6 months before launch yet we sit here 5 weeks before launch of Switch and none of their features for their system are clearly explained.
Edit: I know Nintendo defense force thinks this is not a big deal but for a lot of us who are used to seamless online interaction with our friends, this is a huge deal. It's tough for me to get my friends together anymore on the same couch Playing smash bros, Mario kart, splatoon and some of their awesome multiplayer games because we're all in our 30's married with kids and live away from each other. For my friends and I who all have ps4, we finally thought switch would get Nintendo up with the times and actually support a good online OS. It's a big deal breaker for us.
The MOST elegant solution is to have this functionality on the system. The Switch is such a beautiful piece of hardware. A self contained console and handheld. Forcing users to pull out of that box sounds like a misstep. I say forcing because if the app is functional, I might actually use it.
I posted this earlier, but my dream scenario is this:
1) Get a text from a friend "Getting on Splatoon in 5min". This is how 95% of my sessions with friends on Xbox happen. They start in text when nobody is on their system yet.
2) Tap the app and build the party chat. Boom, we are talking.
3) Power the console out of sleep mode and launch the game from the app so it is ready and waiting as I walk into my living room.
I would use this... but to omit this functionality from the system entirely seems so odd.
I posted this earlier, but my dream scenario is this:
1) Get a text from a friend "Getting on Splatoon in 5min". This is how 95% of my sessions with friends on Xbox happen. They start in text when nobody is on their system yet.
2) Tap the app and build the party chat. Boom, we are talking.
3) Power the console out of sleep mode and launch the game from the app so it is ready and waiting as I walk into my living room.
I would use this... but to omit this functionality from the system entirely seems so odd.
Markitron
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It's zero apps on the playstation, it's built into the OS.
Random dude : "So can we expect voice chat"
Reggie : "Yes, through the app"
Reggie really likes to push the app and make it seem very important. If Nintendo goes that route, they may force people to sign on the app to unlock VC on the Switch, for example. For me, this is more of an attempt to put that new solution in the foreground than an explanation of the details.
He is basically repeating himself throughout all interviews.
Random dude : "So can we expect voice chat"
Reggie : "Yes, through the app"
OMG I died
Pay me 50$ a year for me to do absolutely nothing of worth and I will be fine.
I'll be waiting.
ErrorMacro
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I dunno why all the defensiveness. As it was explained, the whole thing sounds pretty bad, period. The only way Nintendo actually changes it (or at least explain it better, if it is not as bad as it sounds), is by voicing the discontent.
As a Nintendo fan, I`m not giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. They`ve failed one too many times when it comes to online functionality to be given the beneift of the doubt.
As a Nintendo fan, I`m not giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one. They`ve failed one too many times when it comes to online functionality to be given the beneift of the doubt.
PseudoViper
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I thought this was already established...
Yeah, people like to overreact on the internet. Story of our lives.
RebornYeti
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If this is true, then I guess it's just Nintendo being different for the sake of it, which hasn't always been a good thing for them.
Hopefully they give us detailed info soon.
Hopefully they give us detailed info soon.
iPhone 6S Plus - starts at $649
Battery pack - lets say $30
AirPods - $160
Total: $840
You just mentioned three separate products totalling $840 in order to play your brand new $300 console online. You can't see how this is a shitty solution for most people? Maybe in your case you already owned those products, but that is certainly not the case for everyone.
March of the Crabs
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I can play the Switch online just fine without any of those things.
Soulscribe
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I'm reeeeeaally curious about what this will look like in practice. The Switch can't just suspend itself while it waits for you to dig out your phone for any multiplayer functionality. It has to be an optional thing but with expanded features, etc.
Orrrrrrr maybe they're just that tone deaf
Orrrrrrr maybe they're just that tone deaf
ViolentP
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It's a shitty solution even for those who can afford it.
Markitron
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They were a bit vague about it, most couldn't believe it on account how stupid and backwards it was. Now we have confirmation.
Okami Haundo
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The online trial starts in March, not summer. Which will be really damn confusing and annoying if there really is no form of voice chat until the app comes out. That's not me saying that I think there will be voice chat without the app, just that it's insane to wait that long.
Poor ARMS/MK8 Deluxe...
Why don't you just use the Playstation app?
BrownWalrus
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Only Nintendo apologists would defend this.. seriously. This is a great option (as has been mentioned already), but silly as the ONLY option. Is Nintendo that desperate to capture users on their mobile app? Were the additional costs that great that they couldn't implement built in voice chat? Jesus.
1. Don't be dumb, the vita can do this. The switch is weak hardware but it can at least handle a list and voice chat.
2, 3, 4. You just listed almost $1000 worth of stuff to play your $300 console. Do you need see how nuts that is?
moltonasty
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Not if you want voice chat, lobbies, and matchmaking. You know, basic components of online play since the 90s...
Pancakes R Us
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Exactly. Otherwise all of the negativity surrounding this is completely unnecessary. The thing is, I suspect it IS necessary. That's the problem. And Nintendo is doing a SHIT job of communicating it with this 'bulky gamer headset' rhetoric. In fact, they're alienating the gamers that they claim they want.
Fuck you, Nintendo. Fuck you. And screw you, Reggie. You don't have a say in shit. NCL is calling all the shots and you're just a puppet. How do you even defend this shit with a straight face? Bet you got an A* in chatting shit at school, hah.
That's right, I was wrong, it starts in March.
I'm pretty sure it can't do all the things Nintendo is saying theirs will do (like manage party chat)
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