SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Framerate looks rough. Dont see how they are able to 60 fps on next gen consoles like RE8.
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Resident Evil 4 Remake - New Details and Pictures Revealed
Framerate looks rough. Dont see how they are able to 60 fps on next gen consoles like RE8.
Nickolaidas
Member
I saw DuskGolem's tweets and the scrapped enemies from the original. Holy shit, some ideas were fucking awesome. I'd really love it if they implemented more scrapped monsters for the remake.
Nickolaidas
Member
RE8 ran like shit at first. Plus, we're looking at a compressed YT video. It will be optimized by the end of development.
Meltdowns are still a thing, I see
Actually shadows were very unique. Variable penumbra shadows are very rare even today. Back then only RE4 and Onimusha 3 had them:
Right, newer technology can only make a game look better:
"Darker" he says:
Bonus: bloom looks like crap and it lacks the smoke diffusion effect from the original:
The fixed aiming reticle alone makes this remake inferior.
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Weapons sound so bad....
StylishMGTOW
Member
Well, one thing's for certain: Japanese character designs trump Western garbage!
Leon is looking hot!
Leon is looking hot!
Nickolaidas
Member
Did you just use a lighting mod as an argument?"Darker" he says:
StylishMGTOW
Member
One would argue that those remakes in themselves are flawed compared to the original, despite having better graphics. Demon's Souls 2009 had an atmosphere that felt missing in the remake, and them tampering with the original soundtrack had a lot to do with that.
Compare the Maneater OST from 2009:
To the remake's attempt at creating atmosphere:
My god, it's like they missed the damn point of what made the original so moody! Just another bombastic souls-borne soundtrack catered to the common denominator!
The users pointing out these flaws have a good point, but that shouldn't deter you from potentially enjoying the game when it releases.
StylishMGTOW
Member
I don't understand some users here: we can't point out flaws in games without having our opinions shot down? It's all subjective, but some of you act like we're attacking your personality.
It's a game. Some of you take it's criticism too personally.
It's a game. Some of you take it's criticism too personally.
deeptech
Member
people like to identify with products, brands, etc.. that's why there's console "wars", "if i like it it's part of me"
Nickolaidas
Member
To each his own. I consider the Adjudicator and Flamelurker's themes to be vastly superior to the original version. Though I still think Maiden Astraea's and Tower Knight's/Penetrator's is still better in the original.
Despite that, I consider the remake's soundtrack to be superior because it's more fitting to a boss battle, while the original's music (the majority at least) felt sleepy, drowsy, slow and unbecoming for a battle of life and death between you and outworldy demonic behemoths.
Pointing out flaws is one thing. Claiming that the remake looks like dogshit is an eye-rolling hyperbole which shouldn't be taken seriously.
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StylishMGTOW
Member
I agree, but I just shrug it off, laugh, and disengage.
It's all just fun and games at the end of the day.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
There's people who would kill their families to get this upcoming 6/10 so don't be shocked.
I'm getting mad Bayonetta 3 vibes from this game.
Interview: Resident Evil 4 - IGN
More than a month ago at a Capcom-held Gamers Day event in Las Vegas the company showed off the first footage of the new Resident Evil 4 -- a game completely re-worked and different from all previous footage shown. The publisher surprised press on hand by also unveiling a playable one-level demo...
"Lighting mod"
DonJorginho
Banned
I'm not too worried, framerate also looked a bit touch and go leading up to launch for RE8 if I remember correctly.
Honestly, apart from the obvious tehnical differences, i think original Ashely has more unique features. The chin, the nose, the ears, are all very distinctive.By the way, for comparison...just in case the Nostalgia goggles are on
The remaked one, looks like every anime 20 something girl ever, almost like a placeholder. Could it be that they haven't already put the final character assets in place?
Nickolaidas
Member
This screenshot is from a YouTuber who plays the game on his GameCube. Same level.
Call me crazy, but it looks nowhere near the pic IGN posted back in that interview. Any chance we're having another Dark Souls II situation where the lighting was severely nerfed in the final product because they couldn't make it work back then?
Caaaaaaause ... this ain't it, chief.
HYDE
Banned
Don’t engage with junior looking for attention, and encouraging a ban.
You could also try being less of a triggered shithead over opinions. Nevermind your own hyperbolic butthurt response over the smallest criticism of this remake or praise for the original.
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Nickolaidas
Member
I'll try. Can you try to have an opinion which amounts to little more than 'the sky is red'?
Cause that's not an opinion. It's a false statement.
You can say you prefer the original because it looks less cluttered, looks simpler, you prefer the art design, you love tank controls, all that is fine. Those are opinions, and those are fine.
But if you (not you specifically) call a 25-year old game 'flawless perfection' and call its remake which comes after 25 years of gaming evolution 'dogshit', how much weight does an opinion have?
Sorry if I came out as an asshole. It's just that people trash talk those new games for completely superficial reasons that it just tiresome to read at some point. I mean, some poster complained about Ashley's ears in the remake, as if Ashley in the Gamecube is the freakin Mona Lisa.
Acting like the remake is flawless and perfect in every way as if it's the "freaking Mona Lisa", which you've been doing, and fighting anyone who thinks otherwise, is also annoying. You've also done nothing but shit on the original and flaming anyone who prefers it over the remake, so you may not want call others out for hyperbole/negativity.
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Nickolaidas
Member
I honestly believe the remake looks to be a lot better than its 25-year-old predecessor. Not sure if I called it 'perfect', I don't think I did. Anyway, where is the hyperbole?
I don't shit on the original, I just think it'll be inferior to a game coming 25 years later. Is this me attacking the original?
At any rate, I'll try and be less provocative.
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I kind of find it funny how people were saying on this board that Dead Space remake looks unremarkable visually and yet there is so much praise for RE4R graphics and presentation. Dead Space looks a whole generation ahead of this game on a technical level bar facial animations and detail. Expected far more from Capcom for what probably is their biggest game.
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Signal Rockets
Banned
I fancy pre-ordering the game, just to get the special handgun ammo creation thingy.
You also get a gold attaché case.
You also get a gold attaché case.
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Direct feed screenshots > blurry screencaps from a random youtube video.This screenshot is from a YouTuber who plays the game on his GameCube. Same level.
Call me crazy, but it looks nowhere near the pic IGN posted back in that interview. Any chance we're having another Dark Souls II situation where the lighting was severely nerfed in the final product because they couldn't make it work back then?
Caaaaaaause ... this ain't it, chief.
Nickolaidas
Member
I'm talking about lighting, genius. The way the shadows work on that screenshot you posted are completely different from those in the final product. This is clearly not the lighting the final game ended up having, since your screenshot was taken from a pre-release version of the game (like in Dark Souls II which had awesome lighting pre-release, and they nerfed it to hell in the final product because they couldn't make it work due to time restraints and performance issues).Direct feed screenshots > blurry screencaps from a random youtube video.
What's next? Are you going to claim that Skyrim has better-looking character models than RE4make and then post Bijin mods as proof?
Nickolaidas
Member
Those fog/smoke effects at 5:35 look really good.
I have to admit the outer walls of the castle lack the splendor of the Dimitrescu castle in RE8.
Ristifer
Member
People always say this fluff on these boards. Then the game is actually visible on screens and they change their tune.
It'll be the same with this one, most likely.
VeganElduderino
Member
cinnamonandgravy
Member
eh we'll see
Stuart360
Member
For some reason i was under the assumption this wasnt a cross gen game, i guess i was wrong judging from this footage.
Man this is a tricky one for Capcom isnt it, with how beloved the orig game is.
I think for that reason i feel this will be much more of a graphical update, with not too much changes to gameplay, compared to the other remakes so far.
Rain looks awful, on 4.23 it looks more like GPU artifacts than rain. Also crushed black, ffs really?
"The way the shadows work" There aren't even any shadows in the screenshot. The enemies are just outside of the range of Leon's belt flashlight.
Thank you for proving once again you haven't even played the original game once
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GymWolf
Member
Boy leon and ashley looks really strange in the face, not sure why.
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GymWolf
Member
DS remake is nextgen only and it looks like a good ps4 game.
forspoken other than nice particles looks like a ps4 launch title.
HFW looks much better than both and it's crossgen.
We are living in a confused timeline.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
its the ps5 version , everything looks ace apart from the rain
No "ballistics" line. Downgrade.
Nickolaidas
Member
Observe how much light is generated by the torches in the left screenshot, to the point the downpour becomes visible around the flames. Observe how dynamic the shadows are in your screenshot where they obstruct the faces and upper parts of the villagers. There is clearly some very good lighting engine and attention to detail in the game, pre-release.
Yet in the final version, the ultra powerful glow surrounding the torches is all but gone. Leon's aiming at a villager at precisely the same height in both screens (the distance is exactly the same with the distance of the villager in the middle of the screen, right next to the one aimed by Leon), yet in the final release, the shadows are almost non-existent. This proves that whatever lighting engine they were working on never survived development and they scrapped it (probably because both the Gamecube and the PS2 were never strong enough hardware-wise to handle it).
If you want to prove me wrong, post a gameplay video of the Gamecube version at that part of the game which shows the lighting working as in your screenshot of the pre-released version of the game.
Otherwise,, admit you used a picture from a non-existent version of the game, take the L, and move on.
I honestly gave you a lot more attention than you deserved, and if you can't provide gameplay video as proof, I'm done with you.
Keep making laughing emojis, that doesn't make you right. It makes you a clown.
EDIT: Pictures from the PS4 version. Fun fact: Leon's 'flashlight' adds absolutely fuck all to the lighting. The villagers are fully visible both far away and next to him. The shadows do NOT. work. Like in your screenshot.
Have YOU played the game, ever?
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Sera's face is even worse.
All faces are off. And why, oh why do they keep using these exagerrated facial expressions (same as every game praised for their amazing facial capture)?. For fuck's sake, real people don't do that. Keep it more subtle mother fuckers.
For PC community I can see things like these being no problem as Resident Evil games have a huge modding community. GTA DE rain was modded to look decent hours after release, can see same happening here. This of course doesn't excuse Capcom's lame effort in this regard, especially after rain already looked very good in RE2R. Strange downgrade by Capcom, still baffled by this.
Nickolaidas
Member
I agree, though PC gamers aren't the only gamers in the world.
Who knows why they made rain work like this. As you've said, it worked just fine in RE2make. They CAN do it. Either this isn't the final version of the rain, or for some reason they wanted to REALLY make it stand out, but it isn't working.
You don't even realize torches aren't even casting light, much less shadows in the first screenshot and yet you want to appear as an expert in game graphics?
Observe how much light is generated by the torches in the left screenshot, to the point the downpour becomes visible around the flames. Observe how dynamic the shadows are in your screenshot where they obstruct the faces and upper parts of the villagers. There is clearly some very good lighting engine and attention to detail in the game, pre-release.
Yet in the final version, the ultra powerful glow surrounding the torches is all but gone. Leon's aiming at a villager at precisely the same height in both screens (the distance is exactly the same with the distance of the villager in the middle of the screen, right next to the one aimed by Leon), yet in the final release, the shadows are almost non-existent. This proves that whatever lighting engine they were working on never survived development and they scrapped it (probably because both the Gamecube and the PS2 were never strong enough hardware-wise to handle it).
If you want to prove me wrong, post a gameplay video of the Gamecube version at that part of the game which shows the lighting working as in your screenshot of the pre-released version of the game.
Otherwise,, admit you used a picture from a non-existent version of the game, take the L, and move on.
I honestly gave you a lot more attention than you deserved, and if you can't provide gameplay video as proof, I'm done with you.
Keep making laughing emojis, that doesn't make you right. It makes you a clown.
Here's another direct feed shot when the ganados are closer to Leon:
cortadew
Member
Remake 2 is too good to just be "ok"
Nickolaidas
Member
Post. Gameplay. From. The. Final. Version.You don't even realize torches aren't even casting light, much less shadows in the first screenshot and yet you want to appear as an expert in game graphics?
Here's another direct feed shot when the ganados are closer to Leon:
VeganElduderino
Member
Yeah exactly! Far from just being OK, it's one of my favorite games ever!