dummydecoy
Member
Aw man, I was excited for the PS4 port.
Just like Mass Effect, entire upcoming PS4 sequels will be a no-buy then.
Just like Mass Effect, entire upcoming PS4 sequels will be a no-buy then.
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Respawn: EA made Titanfall deal, only for one game, will work on PS4 later
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baxter2231
Member
Unfortunately battefront is in the hands of EA, im already accepting the fact it wont be a real battlefront game, and yet it will sell millions and be even more successful then before despite being a less game. Sigh
EA earning their reputation here
EA earning their reputation here
silver.tongue
Member
All I know is that the "sadface" is going to get him into trouble...
Who wants to play a years old MP title? Just get it for PC or wait for Titfall 2...
Officerrob
Banned
So Battlefield 2013, Titanfall 2014, Battlefront 2015, Battlefield 2016, Titanfall 2 2017? Fuck, that is a LONG time
EA will try their best but since Respawn isn't owned by them they can't do shit. Seriously though, Zampella is fucking cursed, I might not be a fan of his games but I really feel sorry for the guy, he's always getting screwed by these dipshit publishers.
Well I guess that means we should be happy that they're not buying talent
Pop
Member
Why yes it it. Just think how much money Respawn is missing out on not being on Ps4.
How does this move harm him tho?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
There's a good chance, which is partly why it's a risky move on EA's part to piss them off. Respawn could go running to Take Two for the sequel if they wanted. This is unless EA have tied them into a two game deal or have first refusal on a sequel, which is definitely a possibility.
but iirc EA Partners games can be on Steam (Kingdoms of Amalur, Alice MR) I guess it's up to the developers?
Beer Monkey
Member
This is kind of funny after so many people said that it had to come to PS4 specficially because EA is publisher.
Ironic, somewhat, even.
I seriously, seriously doubt that their deal with EA is for a single title.
Ironic, somewhat, even.
I seriously, seriously doubt that their deal with EA is for a single title.
Sad to think about it. The bigger the franchise gets, the safer the sequels seem to become.
oconnomiyaki
Member
It's a harsh lesson about the world, really. You might be creative and have some wonderful ideas (as a team or as an individual) but you can't make it a reality without taking someone else's money to do it.
I'll leave the dramatics of capitalism out of this. Most of us know the score there. The idea is just that eventually, people come for their pound of flesh in one way or another. Facebook didn't really want to go public, for example.
I guess Vince just has to work out at what point are his personal values compromised.
EatinOlives
Member
Respawn didn't go to MS, Sony, or Nintendo for an exclusivity deal. They went to EA, a third party publisher, for a multiplatform deal. EA's pulling the rug from under them because MS is looking to moneyhat an exclusive at the last minute because they have to save their trainwreck of a launch. If Respawn weren't getting screwed on this deal Vince wouldn't be lamenting it on twitter.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I agree with that. That is why you see companies like Insomniac trying to secure their own ip's now. They can make a game like Sunset Overdrive on the XBox One but they are not confined to making Ratchet games on the Playstation. I imagine that's why Bungie left, they got sick of being a slave to Halo.
Even studios like Quantic Dream don't have total freedom as we found out with Heavy Rain and the DLC all of the sudden put on hold in favor of the Playstation Move support. Some studios need someone like Sony though to fund the project and market it.
What is apparent is Microsoft likes to try and partner with less risky projects (as opposed to someone like Sony who have a more marketable game brand worldwide) and they know a game like TitanFall can not only help sell systems but also XBox Live memberships.
FranXico
Member
DeejayKnight
Member
Wooooooow, this is hilarious, especially right after all the hooplah that the other thread was discussing. This gen is starting out with battles.
I wonder what EA has planned with Sony to balance this out since Peter Moore was so focused on discussing balance and love for both platforms a few months back?
I wonder what EA has planned with Sony to balance this out since Peter Moore was so focused on discussing balance and love for both platforms a few months back?
NullPointer
Member
Is there an emoticon for insubordinate?
Yeah we don't know the details but Respawn definitely owns the IP.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Probably not since that was down to EA who probably actually wanted it to come over to the PS3 but Biowares contract with Microsoft was still running. In this casr it's EA's contract with Microsoft which clearly they agreed to and wanted to it's less likely they'll go out of their way to find loop holes,
EA only think of short term like morons.
It's a shitty situation, but let's not go too far. He's exceptionally wealthy, and is the head of the team that defined multiplayer for the generation, and is producing the most critically hyped next-gen release. He's not sucking dick for crack.
Aretak
Member
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man. Personally, I haven't bought a single EA game since Mass Effect 3 (and I massively regretted handing over money for that in hindsight).
Well they originally agreed to it being a timed exclusive in the first place. So it's hard to say if they really feel screwed over or just disappointed. He might even just feel bad since he originally did say that it is likely timed only and has now let people down. There's a pretty big difference between disappointment and anger at being screwed over. I don't really see Microsoft or EA screwing Respawn here. They're in a really damn good position to be in and I'm guessing they have had creative freedom with the title. It's entirely possible he's just sad that he has let people down.
Is anyone reading into it the way I am?
It's like MS had a timed deal... then GAF and others completely rip apart anything MS has done (deservedly so on some parts)... and XB1 has all this negative buzz going into launch... which MS sees and causes them to shore up and lock in TItanfall as an exclusive.
Nonetheless, a great coup for the XB1, title looks amazing.
It's like MS had a timed deal... then GAF and others completely rip apart anything MS has done (deservedly so on some parts)... and XB1 has all this negative buzz going into launch... which MS sees and causes them to shore up and lock in TItanfall as an exclusive.
Nonetheless, a great coup for the XB1, title looks amazing.
I didn't see anyone post this last week:
IGN News - PS4: EA Has Unannounced 'Tactical Programmes With Sony'
I wonder how EA is gonna make it up to Sony for all the exclusives their giving MS.
IGN News - PS4: EA Has Unannounced 'Tactical Programmes With Sony'
With who?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I just hope third parties and even Sony try to cash in with mech games of their own. Titanfall will be big enough to spawn a mech game craze across all systems, I'm sure. Mechs will be the new Nazi's/Zombies in my opinion.
SeventhSon
Member
The game in question wouldn't exist if not for the platform holder's investment. That's different from buying a monopoly on a game that was being developed for multiple competing platforms.
Imagine if Platinum was making Bayonetta 2 for Sega for all platforms, then Nintendo bought exclusivity for the Wii U.
NullPointer
Member
OOOH that'll work.(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Well, there you go. Everybody wins. Won't have the first Titanfall, but PS4 owners won't miss out on Titanfall altogether as a result, and if you absolutely can't stand to miss the first, there's PC.
*Group hug*
*Group hug*
FranXico
Member
I didn't see anyone post this last week:
IGN News - PS4: EA Has Unannounced 'Tactical Programmes With Sony'
I wonder how EA is gonna make it up to Sony for all the exclusives their giving MS.
That smells like BS.
Like their "unprecedented partnership" with Nintendo.
PuppetMaster
Member
MS is the one getting screwed here when you think objectively about this. The are spending 10s of millions marketing promoting and hyping up this new franchise. All for what? They are never going to make thier money back if only the first game is exclusive.
If all of this true exclusivity happened without Respawn knowing, who's to say Respawn can choose the platforms for the sequel?
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The function is that the games might not exist in the first place without investment by Sony (or Microsoft or Nintendo), while other titles become exclusive for reasons other than initial financing. This isn't a situation where Titanfall wouldn't exist without Microsoft, while that wouldn't be true of Deep Down for example, or Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U.
Obviously those lines can be muddled in some instances, but that's the gist of where I'd say there's a difference.
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The function is that the games might not exist in the first place without investment by Sony (or Microsoft or Nintendo), while other titles become exclusive for reasons other than initial financing. This isn't a situation where Titanfall wouldn't exist without Microsoft, while that wouldn't be true of Deep Down for example, or Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U.
Obviously those lines can be muddled in some instances, but that's the gist of where I'd say there's a difference.
Well, in my opinion it's good for XBone fans which fully identify with MS. They possibly believe that prospective PS4 clients may jump to the XBox One.
No offence, I'm just dwelling on thoughts.
PanicFreak
Member
Respawn will be fine in this deal. They will release TitanFall 2 in a couple of years and double their next gen sales. It's also a great deal for Microsoft because the Xbox One will be the only next gen console where you can play it. Further, they will be able to say things like, "Xbox One is the only place where you can play TitanFall, Halo, Call of Duty, Battlefield and Halo."
Officerrob
Banned
I didn't see anyone post this last week:
IGN News - PS4: EA Has Unannounced 'Tactical Programmes With Sony'
I wonder how EA is gonna make it up to Sony for all the exclusives their giving MS.
Do you really think EA gave MS exclusives? MS paid out the ass for this
Not always. The first Gears of War was a classic. The sequels not so much.
theviolenthero
Member
What do you mean "why"?
Have you not seen all the exclusive deals signed by 3rd parties over the past year?
Sonic wii u exclusive 3 game deal
Wonderful 101 & Bayonetta 2 wii u
Lego city undercover wii u
Deep Down Ps4
TON'S of exclusive indies like Rime on the PS4
etc,etc,etc....
If anyone hates EA for this deal then they pretty much hate the entire industry since everyone does it.
I guess we're kind of just arguing semantics. I wouldn't consider paying EA to renegotiate is having say since that would imply MS could dictate platforms without EA at all. I'm just going to drop it. Not worth arguing about it since we're saying similar things just in a different way.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Yes, but that doesn't mean anything if they have sold first refusal on a sequel to EA as well. I'm not sure they would have, especially in the strong bargaining position they had when they went to EA. I am sure that EA will have demanded it, but who really knows what happened. That he is voicing his displeasure at this moves indicates that they have a good chance of getting away from EA, but EA making this move indicates they are sure they will be publishing at least one more entry into the franchise.