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[RUMOR] Paul Thurrott: Xbox 720 is expensive: $500 or $300 for sub model, 5/21 Unveil
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H_Prestige
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What makes those types of comments even more funny is the implication that MS is this current champion being threatened by these young upstarts called Apple or Google. When in reality it's the latter that control the market in question and MS is a complete non-factor. Similar to all the "Nintendo is no longer interested in small fry like Sony and MS, Apple is the new target" statements that were commonplace not long ago.
RockmanWhore
Member
500$
always online
no second hand games
Rumors are pretty bad for the next XBox, Microsoft should drop some info, it can't be as bad as these news. That said, after the success of the 360, it wouldn't surprised me if Microsoft would become so arrogant, it happened to Nintendo after the success of the SNES, and to Sony after the PS2.
always online
no second hand games
Rumors are pretty bad for the next XBox, Microsoft should drop some info, it can't be as bad as these news. That said, after the success of the 360, it wouldn't surprised me if Microsoft would become so arrogant, it happened to Nintendo after the success of the SNES, and to Sony after the PS2.
Or... maybe the fact that we've heard these things from multiple sources at different layers within the industry, combined with the fact that it's not difficult to see this being true considering the players involved?
The Xbox 3 is going to be considerably less cutting edge than the X360 was, and will be appropriately smaller/cooler/cheaper to manufacture. Theres the Kinect 2 to consider but its meant to be cheaper to produce than Kinect 1 due to no tilt motor.
there are around 30 other countries in Europe besides UK.
in Sweden we do have Netflix, though I have set my AppleTV to access US Netflix since their content is much better.
MS' board is supposedly sick of taking massive losses from gaming off the bat of each launch. Paul's figures may come from that idea.
Yes yes sure. Name 5 of them if there so many! I bet you can't!
The branding on this is stupid. But the product is a good idea. Continue to strengthen SmartGlass and Surface instead of doing what Nintendo is doing or giving up on stuff like Zune prematurely. Surface and Xbox should be here to stay and should work in tandem while still allowing stuff like SmartGlass on every product they can possibly make it reach.He also reported on ms working on a 7 inch gaming tablet and says this leaked doc is accurate:
May 21 will be interesting indeed.
I was thinking they'd save this for BUILD Windows, but now that I think about it, we'll probably see this on the 21st too.
They probably are not happy but what exactly can they do?
Last time one of them shared concerns about durango and always online, their shares took a big nose dive.
Germany, France, Brazil, South Africa, Australia.
Just caught up with the thread and am shocked so many people think these leaks were intentional to gauge a reaction and respond accordingly. This is a company who still does not allow any developers to acknowledge the fact that their next console even exists in any form. Sure, there is a chance they may get rid of the requirement because of negative reactions as long as they don't write it off as whiny nerds on the internet but they definitely didn't put out a ton of negative info just to see what would happen.
Can Crusher
Banned
So:
Expensive
Underpowered compared to direct competition
Online Required
Kinect Required
Sounds brilliant.
Expensive
Underpowered compared to direct competition
Online Required
Kinect Required
Sounds brilliant.
Are Germany and France in Europe?
Sounds like a marketing team's wet dream
metalslimer
Member
Forced Kinect will do that....this thing is going to flop so hard. There hasn't been a single positive which must be a record for a console with no reveal
famousmortimer
Banned
What I've heard is that Sony is targeting $300-$400. And as such, that camera they spent a whole bunch of time showing off, isn't in the box anymore.
I think microsoft, with a kinect in the box, needs to be $400. Maybe like $429.99 or something. That is... if Sony hits their goal. But that's also why I'm skeptical of price talk yet, because from what I understand about the PS4 they have targets they are going for but even at this stage they can't exactly project a price.
They've done such a good job with Surface and Windows 8, they're on a roll now
Well...eh, creamhackered, were you referring to Stringray too talking about pricing or to Durango as I believed?
Yeah all five that I named are in Europe afaik.
slade
Member
Yes.
BlazingDarkness
Member
How would that work for publishers though? Customers pay MS a sub fee to access all these games, what's in it for the publishers? When they could be making around $50 per new release at retail.
Very. His focus is on Microsoft products (Windows, Surface, Windows Phone, Xbox, etc.) rather than video games, but his track record is very good.
If people seriously believe that Microsoft is just now fishing for reactions on design philosophies integral to a new system they have been designing for years, I have a bridge to sell them.
Let's be honest here. Either some of these rumours are total BS (I'm guessing this price one) or we are missing something major. MS is known to "miss" every now and then but they aren't idiots.
Grinchy
Banned
Man, I hope not. As much as I like seeing Sony get their act together, if Nintendo and MS both flop hard, Sony will inevitably go back to the arrogant assholes they became in the past. I always welcome competition to keep things even. The competition from the 360 is the only reason the PS3 became as great as it did IMO.
jetsetfluken
Member
Really hope the no BC rumor isn't true. XBLA compatibility is higher priority than retail, since they can strengthen the Next Xbox digital ecosystem greatly.
Not having any PS3 BC, retail or digital, was a big enough blow. The digital library there built up since 2006 was essentially a wasted effort, soon to be all forgotten in the past.
Not having any PS3 BC, retail or digital, was a big enough blow. The digital library there built up since 2006 was essentially a wasted effort, soon to be all forgotten in the past.
I'm not sure that what you've heard of the ps4 is accurate.
CouldBeWorse
Member
There's no way Sony hits $300. $400 minimum with those specs.
Can Crusher
Banned
Aren't most of their hardware products failures? At least in comparison to the competition?
Sounds about right. Xbox 360 was the odd one.
I share these thoughts, the only reason I care about BC is my XBLA purchases...
WHAT?? SOUTH AFRICA? --- AFRICA
BRAZIL --- SOUTH AMERICA
Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Italy, Greece among others...
Sorry, I've been quietly reading this discussion since I have very little to add, but this, I just couldn't stand..
ON TOPIC - Could it be that some games will be Always-on as requested by developper and some games won't?
Hence the new xbox will clearly state "Some game(s) and function(s) require a permanent Internet Conection"....
You can play games offline... some games... that's left up to developer...
And if the console is not online you miss out on most of the features...
Don't know... all seems too strange at this time..
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and, um, Jersey.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Does this mean that I need to start a PS4 savings account?
Anton668
Member
I wouldnt say they are idiots, but it's really starting to look like they are out of touch with the avg consumer
Well, if the solution is that we reward MS for anti-consumer measures out of some fear over a future monopoly, I think we're worse off as gamers because then these features become standardized.
Whiteshirt
Member
Well Microsoft did release the awful, awful device that was the Kin to chase after the trendy social networking boom. They also were dumb enough to put Roz Ho in a position of power and as a result, had the worst datacenter disaster in forever.
I think they have something new for the new Xbox to justify all of this (assuming its true, which is looking quite likely) but they're not really that smart. If they weren't idiots, they wouldn't be getting outmanoeuvred without effort by Apple and Google but look at them today.
Windows 8?
SolarPowered
Member
It happened to Nintendo A LOT more recently than that.
Except if this is really part of a large demographic shift for them, and they have "larger" plans than simply the gaming market.
The most recent rumor is that the always online requirement is an OS level feature and that the console will not function after three minutes without an internet connection.
? It was a try at the tablet market. They gave it a shot, it failed but it was hardly idiotic.
metalslimer
Member
MS aren't idiots? Have you missed almost every new initiative in the last decade? 500 million down the drain on Kin alone is enough
jetsetfluken
Member
Who really cares how arrogant or nice PR speak is? If a situation arises where there is another PS2 "monopoly" scenario, we just might see another more focused and creative output from East and West developers. Maybe even a shift from AAA Western monopoly to shared between the two, or at least resurgence of Japanese AAA. Basically, region markets won't have to be split by console anymore.
Shai-Tan
Banned
wah? are you on flaky dsl or something? most people on cable internet should have 99.99~% uptime unless there's something wrong with your local node
In Canada it isn't about uptime. It's about Internet restrictions and caps that are straight out of the Stone Age
metalslimer
Member
Games will still be multiplat with Durango. There is no PS2 monopoly ever happening again.