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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm wondering the same thing about creamhackered.
Edit : Nevermind. Just saw the post quoted above.
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[RUMOR] Paul Thurrott: Xbox 720 is expensive: $500 or $300 for sub model, 5/21 Unveil
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Edit : Nevermind. Just saw the post quoted above.
always on
Verge guy, I guess.
What I'm interested in is the effect that GTA V will have on the new consoles. Can a game be bigger than a console launch? Will people buy a new console when they can buy GTA, FIFA, COD and Battlefield on their old system?
Randolph Freelander
Member
And the verge is....
Yeah, anyone who was expecting Sony and MS to cake-walk their way to dominance this gen was kidding themselves that they wouldn't get bad press for SOMETHING that would kill their hype. We're just waiting for Sony's turn, at this point.
You do realize that the mass market aren't early adopters, right? The Wii was the ONLY time that's ever been true, and the Wii U shows that it isn't easily sustainable.
The hardcore are going to be the only ones interested at launch, and if it flounders at launch, the mass market is going to ask why and have PLENTY of evidence to assist them.
As for mass market messaging, here's some sites that MS shouldn't want this story reaching if it wants to control the mass market message:
NBC News
TIME
Huffington Post (twice)
Forbes
The Consumerist
Canada.com (which is part of Postmedia Network, whose articles are printed in multiple newspapers across Canada)
Just to name a few.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
Puppet Shadow
Member
You don't owe us an explanation, but you may want to PM a mod as to why you have inside info if you value your account here.
Edit: Saw the above just now.
Anton668
Member
this.
I always thought with the PS2/PS3, that sonys biggest competitor was themselves.
I was just kidding around (well I do want him to say more lol). He has insider's knowledge and stuff.
LowParry
Member
I wonder how a retailer would sell the NextBox with the whole aspect of always online with a positive spin. Would if they said nothing and the consumer takes it home only to find out. It's been a while since I've worked retail and I've bought my gaming purchases mostly through Amazon these last few years.
BlazingDarkness
Member
So, internet connection required, yay or nay?
CouldBeWorse
Member
He knows NPD stuff
I would assume atleast in my area northern minnesota they would have to let people know to avoid returns.
GoofsterStud
Member
Oh man.. I can just imagine Amazon dropping 720 support like they did with the 3DS over returns.
No way they will be that stupid. >.> I hope.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Yep, similarly to how the DS is still cannibalizing 3DS sales in the west.
Glorified G
Member
He also reported on ms working on a 7 inch gaming tablet and says this leaked doc is accurate:
May 21 will be interesting indeed.
It is really not obvious.
Delusibeta
Banned
Tech site, same company as Polygon, actually regarded as decent (unlike Polygon) due to largely being staffed by ex-Engadget folk.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I have to agree with what some others said in this thread--I can't possibly believe the market can handle two $500 consoles. I have my doubts as to whether even one $500 console can be successful.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
Member
the touch of a " SCSI 10K rpm as storage 250GB 2.5"" is indeed a classy touch
Ploid 3.0
Member
People keep bringing up online required, but never bring up the fact that used games will probably not work. So much is bad about this. Man Microsoft, come on! Crap, I don't want the system to do good if they do all this, but I don't want sony to go without big competition. If next box does well with all this sony will have no choice but to start dipping it's finger in the honey.
Sammy Samusu
Member
He seems to have an awful lot of info.
Fake.
Fake.
famousmortimer
Banned
Or PSP to Vita in the east.
I don't know any microsoft guys, but everything that's outlined in the OP is exactly what Sony folks are hearing about the system through friends at third parties. Take that for what it's worth.
At this point, it's just a matter of which one wants to fight harder for the honor of getting pushed out of the market first.
It can't as history has shown not even the PS3 that was much more advanced for its time could be successful at 500+. That is why I expect MS and Sony to have a 399.99 SKU.
Sweet Billy
I'm out of the loop who is this & why are people posting gifs because of this post?
PS: if you work at Microsoft remember Sweet Billy & be careful what you post on the internet we got the screen cap ready for anything that can make a story lol.
Pricing too?
That a console that wont work when disconnected from live will be DOA? It's pretty obvious, considering a lot of people don't have stable internet connections and some just don't connect their xbox 360s to the internet period.
Jacksonlee
Member
soooo.....
anybody disagree that this is anti-consumer act?
anybody disagree that this is anti-consumer act?
Noticed a similar trend over the last week... paranoia?
Why remind him of that lol? We need all the leaks and goss we can get!
RustyNails
Member
So, does this mean xbox 720 will have 8 gb ddr ram? If not, why is the cost so high?
Beermeister
Banned
No 720 for me.
Mr. Harker knows things.
Impeccable
Member
Why can't Microsoft just confirm May 21st then?
Seems that's the date in question. Investor thing?
Seems that's the date in question. Investor thing?
It's not anti-consumer if consumers like being treated like the dirt they think they are.
Anton668
Member
If somebody gets a perma ban from Live do MS come take their xbox away? do they have to pay the difference back for breach of contract? If you have a subbed xbox and you stop paying, what happens? you now own a brick?
I ask simply because at one point I had lost my job and due to that lost internet for about 3 months, not to mention other "things and stuff". If someone were to end up in such a situation with a subbed xbox, what would happen to them?
Because things can change.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
As sensational as that sounds, I think it might end up being true. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Big 3 bowed out this gen. Or perhaps launching their next-next-gen console in a few years as a last ditch effort after failing next gen, and then bowing out.
BlazingDarkness
Member
I imagine they'll do a marketing blitz and teaser like Sony did leading up to it, so they'll reveal the date when that kicks in, and not before.
creamhackered
Member
As for the always online / always on stuff. It has been rumored a crazy number of times from dev doc sources, Kotaku, Edge, etc etc. There's no doubt that Durango will support always online and always on modes with Connected Standby. Durango is built from the core of Windows 8, which provides instant on and Connected Standby support. It's essentially an x86 machine that's optimized for gaming.
Whether or not Microsoft requires this connection for features, like the rumored activation for blocking used games, is another question. Nobody seems to know this, but if we look at last week then it starts to shown signs that something related to "always online" is happening. Microsoft issued a rare comment on an employee talking about it on Twitter. They want to manage the message carefully for the next Xbox, and employees got a gentle internal reminder after those comments that details of the next console must remain confidential. If those details weren't accurate, Microsoft wouldn't have gone to the effort of releasing a statement and reminding employees internally. It's just a question of how the always online feature works.
Whether or not Microsoft requires this connection for features, like the rumored activation for blocking used games, is another question. Nobody seems to know this, but if we look at last week then it starts to shown signs that something related to "always online" is happening. Microsoft issued a rare comment on an employee talking about it on Twitter. They want to manage the message carefully for the next Xbox, and employees got a gentle internal reminder after those comments that details of the next console must remain confidential. If those details weren't accurate, Microsoft wouldn't have gone to the effort of releasing a statement and reminding employees internally. It's just a question of how the always online feature works.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
They may do another Colony thing
He also reported on ms working on a 7 inch gaming tablet and says this leaked doc is accurate:
May 21 will be interesting indeed.
Think this will also have remote play to allow Durango to played in any room
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
Microsoft Fiscal Year 2013 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call is on the 18th of April. The conference call for the fourth quarter is on the 18th of July. They would be smart to say at least something by the 18th of April. Hopefully someone asks about this always online business in the Q&A session.
It seems strange though that they haven't even acknowledged the existence of the system.
demosthenes
Member
:lol