starchild excalibur
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[RUMOR] Paul Thurrott: Xbox 720 is expensive: $500 or $300 for sub model, 5/21 Unveil
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GoofsterStud
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Yet every other recent rumor also suggest no Backwards Compatibility.
The only rumor that supported backwards compatibility also said the next Xbox would continue to use IBN chipset to do so.
This did not happen. The new chipset isn't compatible or strong enough to run a fully software mode version.
Granted who knows, maybe more expensive model would? I doubt it more things to go wrong.
Ol No Bones
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Whoa there buddy. I shouldn't have made the blanket statement about gamers when i meant some gamers. No need to be up in arms. But yes you would probably be one of the overly dramatic ones. That is just my speculation based on your posts.
grimshawish
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Rumours suggest they both probably have a 'similar' target cost.
MS put Kinect in there and needed 8GB of RAM; this was at a time when Sony were aiming for 4GB or so.
I thought that was the trade off; more RAM (as background functions take up more space) and less speed.
Now? I just don't know. Kinect 2.0 can't be cheap and Sony seem to have raised their target cost with 8GB shift - betting on a fall in RAM prices over the next few years. Few conversations here and there on gaf make me feel the target price has not changed and thats all locked down.
Sony just decided to take a bigger hit; they're aiming to take it all and are putting a lot on it.
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$500 does surprise me though; I don't entirely understand it. Maybe its arrogance, the old 'well they'll pay more for our brand'; or maybe that camera is that expensive.
Everything else is very similar just Sony has far superior RAM; maybe MS have upgraded theres too or they really are betting on Kinect which personally I just think is a baffling business decision.
If its one they've made, they better hope they're not getting WiiU like launch articles of 'issues' with multiplatform titles.
grimshawish
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Mirror Mirror on the Wall whose the most dramatic of them all?
Why gorgeous Grimshawish, I think it may be Ol No Bones.
GoofsterStud
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Iacobellis
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What makes those franchises special?
Ol No Bones
Banned
Haha. Alright.
You can't get them on other consoles.
Puppet Shadow
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What I really don't get with the $500 price tags being tossed around is that the PS3 was screwed over with $599 in 2006. Back in 2006 the economy was booming. We have yet to recover from it tanking in 2008.
Iacobellis
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I can play them on my Xbox and 360.
Come on, you know why we are talking about their importance.
Wickerbasket
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You can get pretty similar stuff though.
For me, personally, Halo and Fable aren't as big a draw as they used to be. I feel like there last few games have declined in quality. Instead I'd be more interested in MS attempting to push new IPs and gameplay.
However, if Microsoft's system is always online, there's pretty much nothing they could release that would convince me to buy it. I just don't want to be supporting anti consumer practices like that.
Puppet Shadow
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I'm starting to think that 1st party games will play a smaller role next gen. All the big ones seem to be played out, or selling worse than their previous versions (or both). At least it's a good time to be a PC gamer.
GoofsterStud
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Well Fable 1 was great.
I'm not the right guy to ask... I don't like FPS or Simulation Racers.
I am just saying that those franchises are important to some people and they take that into account when deciding which console to purchase.
Personally I don't care for the three franchises listed anymore (was burned on Fable, don't like racing games all that much, and Halo just kinda fizzled for me).
Eh...I am waiting to see. Hopefully both Sony and MS are working on new IPs and creative sequels to their major hitters already (I know Sony is).
Iacobellis
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I'm joking. But honestly, MS needs more than ten year old franchises for the 720. You saw Sony whip up IP after IP this generation.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Puppet Shadow
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In Microsoft's defense, wait for E3!
GoofsterStud
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For games I completely agree. Microsoft and Sony will have some killer games. I bet Sony is still keeping their top cards close to their chest! So hopefully E3 titles blow us away on both consoles.
Eh, it's not like they won't create new first party franchises.
Louis Cyphre
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Kinect in every box because you know, we all want one. Plus a demo of Project Milo.
Sony would likely be trying to get a sub-$400 model out there but that might be hard. I wouldn't be at all surprised that after E3 we still don't have price figures for either system. Each may be waiting for the other to reveal their pricing strategy first and delay it as long as possible.
bigboss370
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they...already do?
The problem for me is I'm not into Fable or Forza. The MS franchises that had/have me hooked are Halo and Gears. The other things that made the difference for me were the Live interface, the controller difference (hate dualshock), and ESPN3 being on Xbox.
Now, I'm not that hooked on Gears and Halo, the draw of their exclusivity isn't as strong as it once was. Hopefully PS4 is better in the online interface experience, the controller is changing slightly, and ESPN3 will just have to be watched on my laptop.
At this point I'm pretty much on team Sony, MS has some serious work to do.
Because I can play for Free on my PC and PlayStation Vita/PS3
People been saying that for the past several E3. We are still waiting
Lucent
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$99 360 model? That'd actually be pretty nice. Then I could finally play my copies of Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia. =D
Yep.
Yep.
but lots of people already pay for XBL Gold, or am I totally missing your point?
and 2008/9/10 was the year of the PS3
soulassssns
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Your screen name is fitting
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
There over 50 countries including the UK
Russia, Italy, Spain, Greece, Sweden, Germany, Portugal, France, Norway, Iceland, Ireland, Finland, Switzerland, Hungary, Poland, Belgium etc
Why did you think someone couldn't name 5?
Wow
But they don't pay $50 per month for it
Social media sharing. And boom goes the dynamite. People don't even have to click the links on Facebook, they just have to read the byline someone posting it gives to it.
Take 50K and times that by the hundreds of sites that have likely covered it, then factor in how many shares each page got and multiply that by a factor of 5. And then factor in people who discuss it outside of the internet.
It's kind of funny how you're working so hard to belittle the reach of internet news.
The day that a console does even half of what an iPad is capable of doing, we can talk. They have different value propositions and are not equal.
Not sure how difficult it is to understand. Why should I PAY TO PLAY ONLINE, when I can play for FREEon my PC, Vita, and PlayStation 3.
Sounds like you are offended. Many people, including me, have been disappointed with MS E3 Press Conference the past few years. Last year both Sony and MS E3 sucked
SolarPowered
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Too bad they messed up on important parts like having an LCD model and SD support across all models.
What. The. Fuck.
It is pretty damn easy to name 5 European coutnries other than the UK. Is this a joke? Because I don't see the funny.
soulassssns
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Nope, just pointing out what I see.
DirtyManos
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Would the way always online is rumored to work affect bandwidth caps at all?
I don't think so, but just wanted to be sure if anyone knew.
I don't think so, but just wanted to be sure if anyone knew.
Dreams-Visions
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Well if it is $500, it better be worth $500. Or, it better be very impressive.
Well I, as well as other, don't want to pay to play online. Not commenting on the always online thing because I'm stilling hope it is not true.
Syphon Filter
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akachan ningen
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Lastbox is more like it
Given that we don't really know how the actual always online in the Next Xbox is supposed to work, it's probably a hard guess. My take is that if you're not paying attention to your data usage, it does have the potential to affect it. I mean, just think about it...if the console is supposed to be "always on", pushing new game updates, OS updates, and god knows what else, on top of communicating with the servers(which granted shouldn't be much, but it can add up), then it'll be downloading stuff even when you're not aware of it.
Don't get it. Aren't both of them Sony guys?
Four_Chamber
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These threads have just become parodies at this point. Now people predicting that Microsoft will drop out of console production? I know thats what most of GAF wants but guess what, it ain't gonna happen. I'll check in again in November when the Durango is outselling the PS4 in the US. And once again, we'll learn that rumors about a product 7 months in advance don't mean jack.
TryHardShounen
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So I was wondering, why are people freaking out over potential $500-$600 consoles that you only need to buy once for an entire generation yet people seem to have no problem purchasing new iPads, iPhones, iWhatever, etc every year for the same price or more?
you feeling ok?