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Scalebound Gameplay Demo [extended IGN First demo in OP]
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Jawmuncher
Member
Outside of the weak franerate I'm glad to see a change of pace for platinum games.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
So disappointed
Watched the extended video on ign and it just looks extremly bland. I had high hopes for this but now have 0 interest in this game
Watched the extended video on ign and it just looks extremly bland. I had high hopes for this but now have 0 interest in this game
Looks great. I love the action and the cheesy story, but the frame-rate is iffy. Hopefully they'll have it fixed by launch.
The disappointment of not being able to play this is strong.
EDIT: Also the particles (like when he Sub-Zeroed that dragon) are kind of weird. I'll look past it, it's an ARPG.
The disappointment of not being able to play this is strong.
EDIT: Also the particles (like when he Sub-Zeroed that dragon) are kind of weird. I'll look past it, it's an ARPG.
U need a new dictionary b
Frostinferno
Member
Jesus Christ, could the walking/running animations be any worse? I can't be spending 30+ hours of playing this game looking at that jank.
As a whole, right now this game screams "interesting ideas, disappointing implementation". Thankfully it's still pre-alpha.
As a whole, right now this game screams "interesting ideas, disappointing implementation". Thankfully it's still pre-alpha.
I think PlatinumGames usually have solid framerates (and ass graphics). I'm sure if they are having difficulty maintaining a solid framerate, they won't hesitate to lower the graphics.
dmix90
Member
Oh god, which would mean more.downgrade threads...
Either way, loved what I saw. Glad it's something a bit different for them.
I always wondered if the characters in Japanese RPGs are annoying in the Japanese versions or if it's something that is picked up in the English translation...
Annoying characters is what turns me off of what are otherwise generally great Japanese titles... This looks like it will see the same fate..
Annoying characters is what turns me off of what are otherwise generally great Japanese titles... This looks like it will see the same fate..
Doomshroom
Member
I hope there is a way to shove the headphones up your ass. Would make me like the character more.
ldcommando
Banned
Liked the music
dragonelite
Member
I think the optimization will come from epic and microsoft given its unreal engine 4.0
WickedLaharl
Member
Running/jogging animation is awful and the combat is too slow. I like the concept but it is looking super rough right now.
Them and Itsuno are the only ones who make good games for the genre.
Jawmuncher
Member
Well DMC5 seems to be a lock so I think it'll work out.
The game has potential. It looks like Xenoblade Chronicles X meets Panzer Dragoon Saga with some light hack-n-slash combat.
I'm cool with 30fps for a game of this scale too. Definitely, I'm not disappointed. However, I'm hoping for segments where it's possible to mount the dragon.
I'm cool with 30fps for a game of this scale too. Definitely, I'm not disappointed. However, I'm hoping for segments where it's possible to mount the dragon.
Exploratory
Banned
Ahahahaha.
Ahaha. Haha. Oh man. Fuck me.
Anyway this game looks great I kept yelling oh shit out loud. Especially when he got all /Scalebound/ and turned into a mini dragon.
uncledonnie
Banned
You mean from pre-alpha to release? Of course, it happens all the time.
KazenY2J
Member
So I can't give criticism of a pre-alpha?
Exploratory
Banned
Is there anytime a games frame rate got better 18 months from first being shown? I don't know let me check...
This thread is exactly what I thought it'd be.
As this footage proves, they have tons of optimizing to worry about with this game as well. Looked like the game slowed down to near 15fps or even lower at some points. UE4 might help them, but it still doesn't mean the development will be problem free and that they can just push out what could be their biggest game ever (unless MS forces them to rush out something short) in less time than their less technically demanding games on past consoles. And again, if this will be some kind of Okami x Devil May Cry (i.e. open world(ish), exploration filled character action RPG), then there's still the fact that they need to create tons of content for the game and even with some help from UE4 being such fabulous an engine, they can't skip that part. They really need to make certain that all the different parts of the game mesh well together and that's no easy job and might require a lot of polishing, balancing & just making sure it all works well. Ground combat, dragon combat, aerial traversal, dragon AI etc. are all things that will require a lot of careful adjusting, polish & testing to get them right. I just don't see them getting the game to a content complete stage in ~12-14 months while also going through rigorous testing so that the gameplay would be the best it can be.
HighResTomato
Member
Ether
Who cares how long it's supposed to be until it releases? If they didn't want criticism they should have waited until it was more stable to show off their product. But even alphas need constructive criticism to help improve the product. Game is looking fantastic right now, but I'm not going to sit here and not point out the frame rate issue.
This is the game that will make or break a future Xbox purchase.
I'm left teetering on the brink. I wanted an MH type MP game and I can still get that judging from the end of the video.
Please let it have a good MP component. I'll even buy an Xbox for it, I swear
I'm left teetering on the brink. I wanted an MH type MP game and I can still get that judging from the end of the video.
Massive MH fan obviously
Please let it have a good MP component. I'll even buy an Xbox for it, I swear
Sunset Samurai
Member
Is there anywhere else to watch that extended demo WITHOUT that horrible ign player
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Hey, I'll take any sort of unique looking game in the genre that I can get. I'm fir it, dagnabbit.
Sure can, but seeing as it's pre alpha and we have seen so little of the game and the fact that it's Kamiya and Platinum? I mean for a game a year away surely we should temper our expectations from early pre alpha footage.
If the game is shown again next year closer to the release date having all the same problems then the concern will certainly be justified. For now I prefer to think about the potential this game has rather than be down on the few minutes we have seen.
Of course everybody is different though.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Looks a little rough and slow, but Kamiya has the Midas touch IMO so I'm still excited. Totally expected a slower more large scale adventure, and I'm still on board to see where this goes.
Though I thought they were going to show some seamless mounting/dismounting of the Dragon in combat, so it being used as (basically) an off screen fire attack for most of this demo is a little disappointing. Hopefully there's more to it than that. I have to believe Platinum wouldn't stop there.
Though I thought they were going to show some seamless mounting/dismounting of the Dragon in combat, so it being used as (basically) an off screen fire attack for most of this demo is a little disappointing. Hopefully there's more to it than that. I have to believe Platinum wouldn't stop there.
Chobel
Member
Thank you!
Got bored halfway through with the over there comments. Pretty disappointing reveal but hopefully future videos will convince me. Platinum games always seem to struggle to showcase action clearly. A lot of effects hampering framerate with jarring camera angle changes makes the action hard to follow. Felt 101 also had this problem sometimes. If you want to make hyper kinetic action games the camera needs to be top notch.
Yeah, the demo was probably a realistic showing of the basic combat you can expect at release. The last ~10% of development makes a huge difference to overall polish, though, and that extends to the feel of gameplay. Scalebound is long enough from release that I doubt it's close to that point yet. A lot of the imperfections people found so jarring aren't so odd to see at the stage of development Scalebound seems to be.
Not to mention we're missing a lot of context for what we saw. As far as I know, we don't have much knowledge about the systems at all. Sometimes it's difficult to make a gameplay demo immediately connect with players, and that's partly why we see so many vertical slices that end up being barely representative of moment to moment gameplay. This was a simple demo that introduced us to the basics, and it's not surprising it wasn't super exciting to a lot of people. In this case, the combat also seems much more RPGish than what we've come to expect from Platinum, so by default it wouldn't meet the expectations of many.
Anyway, I understand the disappointment some feel, but it does seem to me that people tend to place too much importance on these showings. It's not easy to come up with a short demo that's properly representative of the full experience, especially before the final stretch of development. Take it as an informative glimpse, feel free to be critical, but keep it in context. Otherwise, it's all too understandable that publishers feel pressured to only show their games in the best possible light.
Poodlestrike
Banned
How could you possibly know that?
RevolverRoden
Member
MC looks like Donte tbh
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I didn't see anything in this game that was necessitate downgrading the visuals to achieve 30fps. Yes, it was rough, but I can see the game shipping at 900p with a rock solid 30fps while retaining the gorgeous visuals we saw today. The game isn't launching until November 2016 at the earliest. Have faith, people.