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Sony FY2015 Q1 (PS4: 3.0m shipped) PS4 total = 25.3m shipped worldwide
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
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That's what I was thinking, would be interesting to see a breakdown. That plus the fact that there is still huge demand at the current price point is very good news for their financials.
When you put it like that .
I agree. I mean...i am a PS4 owner from Singapore. I've always watched all the E3 conferences...and Microsoft always announced many new cool services for the Xbox One...but deep in my mind, i always need to remind myself............70% of the services stuff Microsoft talked at E3 is not gonna work in Singapore....i mean all the Kinect camera stuff that requires a big ass living room (we lived in flats in singapore), all the TV stuff that isn't compatible with our local cable services, etc......
So microsoft will no doubt try harder......but showing off US only services and features to the global audiences isn't going to help it.
Nightengale
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Well, PS4 is clearly profitable enough that they can bundle a 3rd party game at 399 and profit from it.
Acquiescence
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So the PS4 is showing no signs of slowing down then. Good. There are people saying sales are going to slow down significantly as the gen goes on and I want to see them proven wrong.
Callibretto
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I'm not even sure ps3 crossgen will be gone anytime soon. One thing jp dev learn last gen is they really don't have the resource to make high production value games like western publisher. Other than few huge jp publishers, many dev roll back to ps2/ps3 esque games just on higher resolution and framerate. Sone of them are even portable games from vita.
This is a sales thread, & in terms of sales PS4 is "almighty", multiplats are always doing better on PS4 than PC & XB1.
PdotMichael
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Just make a gaming console.
It's nice to see how simple product design can be. No paradigm change, no new lifestyle but just a product that can do what it supposed to do better than the competition.
It's nice to see how simple product design can be. No paradigm change, no new lifestyle but just a product that can do what it supposed to do better than the competition.
Obliterator
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PS4 hasnt even hit its stride yet. Its still LAUNCH PRICE
And we have huge games like Battlefront and Fallout 4 hitting this holiday.
PS4 is gonna sell well over 100 million. At the very least we know PS5 is a certainty
Wow, Sony's firmware team must be really stepping up their game. Does the disk drive have to be empty for that to work?
Callibretto
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I wonder how low can ps4 price go. Does $100 ps4 slim at the end of this gen feasible? Maybe $150?
Ghost Slayer
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With Battlefront + Black Ops 3 + Syndicate + MGSV marketing, this Holidays will boost PS4 sales a lot. And after that, Spring 2016 with Uncharted 4, Street Fighter V should give them decent PS4 sales. Some niche games but well received franchises like Persona 5 also help that. And if we look into near future with FFVIIR, FFXV, Horizon, KH3, DQXI, GoW4 i would say "Damn"
I think 'official price drop' is the secret weapon sony has in their arsenal....that and an inevitable new slim model.....
They will get a big sales spike whenever they are ready for an official price drop.....but since the cost to manufacture has decreased, keeping the price of ps4 at launch price make sense to increase the margin.
Remember kids...as much as Sony wanted to win these 'sales numbers games'....ultimately the game that they really wanted to win is the 'profit margin' game....
Once crossgen PS3 dies, it'll be Vita that lives on. Even though sales basically doubled from last year in Japan for PS4 which is good, many are still resistant to picking up consoles in general like years past.
Basically dedicated hardware and core gaming in general seems to be close to death in terms of fan engagement..and for a majority of the devs in Japan who focus on those games, that isn't good. That's why SE is trying so hard, on top of capitalizing on western success.
Callibretto
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This so many times over. I also think it's one of the key reasons the 360 was also successful at clawing back market share, aside from Sony simply fumbling with the PS3 that is. You don't need gimmicky USP's, as proven by the success of the PS1, PS2 and now PS4. Just make a console that is gaming focused, and designed from the ground up to offer better specs, features, services, systems etc that are related to gaming, whilst considering value proposition.
GravityInsanity
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superseohyun
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the JRPG push in the next few years seems to be insane ( well, compared to PS3/Wii era at least), i sure hope it can revitalize console market.
I think that's feasible as long as die shrinks go at a good pace. 14nm 150$ 40 watt PS4 is easy to see, and that is primarily because they went with basic parts this time instead of the Cell and other technologies from PS3 which can't be shrunk in every consumer machine to turn a profit like that
Cyborg
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We have no games to play.......I mean time.
Callibretto
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Ms really screw themselves over by making console that are more expensive, but weaker than competition. At least with ps3 more expensive price tag, we know it had a lot of potential and sony first party are there to prove that ps3 is a pretty powerful console.
El-Pistolero
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ROFLMFO!
RedAssedApe
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PS news is nice but its sounds like they kind of just broke even in terms of meeting their overall company goals?
Should we buy stock?
Should we buy stock?
Liabe Brave
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It's actually not outside the realm of possibility that they might be able to announce 25m sold-through at Gamescom next week. Unlikely, but not impossible.
It's already behind Wii, and though it might start to close the gap in later years after the Wii fell off, PS4 likely won't live long enough to truly catch up.
It's still ahead of PS2, and will probably stay ahead until next spring. But it will fall behind, and there's pretty much no way it'll have the longevity of PS2. The PS4's final numbers will be somewhere in the range of half that of PS2.
As said above PS4 exceeds PS2 now, but is falling behind not blitzing ahead. Remember that PS2 launched only in Japan and had production problems for a while; PS4 launched much wider and had far more units available for sale. That provided an initial advantage which is being eroded away.
Yes, PS3 has almost no chance to hit 100m or top Wii. It might be possible if Sony aggressively cut the price and promoted it hard for customers less concerned with the cutting edge. But that's very unlikely due to manufacturing costs and other factors; it wouldn't make financial sense to take the hit just for meaningless bragging rights.
We'll probably find out a number eventually, though. They might announce when they pass 90m--they have a history of milestone PR. But even if not, it's likely they'll announce a final number whenever they discontinue production.
This thread is amazing lol
Excellent results. 30m by the end of the year is within reach.
Very valid points. I think it comes down to how much money Sony can make via software, subscription, and accessory sales to offset a price reduction on the PS4.
A lower priced PS4 would do exceptionally well for Sony. We've reached a point in the generation where the majority of publishers and developers are placing their bets on PS4, so consumer faith in the value of the product is at an all-time high. It makes a lot of sense to go after increased market share right now. Increased market share would lead to higher software, subscription, and accessory sales. They can 'solve' the problem of a lower priced PS4 by being smart in how they market the rest of the products and services for the PS4.
Very valid points. I think it comes down to how much money Sony can make via software, subscription, and accessory sales to offset a price reduction on the PS4.
A lower priced PS4 would do exceptionally well for Sony. We've reached a point in the generation where the majority of publishers and developers are placing their bets on PS4, so consumer faith in the value of the product is at an all-time high. It makes a lot of sense to go after increased market share right now. Increased market share would lead to higher software, subscription, and accessory sales. They can 'solve' the problem of a lower priced PS4 by being smart in how they market the rest of the products and services for the PS4.
Acquiescence
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I've been predicting that it'll sell over 100 million for a good while now, but there are people on here that think the PS4's momentum will drop off a cliff due to the console market somehow losing its relevance during the gen. I find that a baffling prediction to be honest. If the system is doing well now, it's absolutely going to kill it when the exclusives from the best studios Sony has start rolling in.
Dougieflesh
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I see about 4 bingos. At least 3 guarantees
A reference to another post
Whether it's worth it or not basically depends on if they can sell every unit they produce at the current price, or if they're close to supply exceeding demand. My feeling is that unless they see troubling indicators otherwise we'll be waiting until next year for a price cut.
Americanmushroom
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A troll
eerik9000
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You mean 35m.
If they ship as much between July and December as they did last year, it will be "exactly" 35m.The PS2 launched in October 2000 at $299, and had a price drop to $199 just a year and a half later in May 2002. The PS4 launched in Nov 2013, so it's now past the period the PS2 had it's major price drop during it's lifecycle. if the PS4 received a $100 price drop tomorrow, I've no doubt it would surge in sales.
scoobs
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Imagine if Sony's 1st party studios had hit the mark and delivered a couple more must-haves... probably 28-30 by now.
Even so, pretty amazing turn around by Sony. Next year should be massive for PS4 with Uncharted, Horizon, Morpheus, and whatever else they have cooked up.
I think they are reaching a point with declining production costs where a price drop to $349 won't hurt the bottom line as much, so I'd expect to hear something about this (probably after Christmas).
Even so, pretty amazing turn around by Sony. Next year should be massive for PS4 with Uncharted, Horizon, Morpheus, and whatever else they have cooked up.
I think they are reaching a point with declining production costs where a price drop to $349 won't hurt the bottom line as much, so I'd expect to hear something about this (probably after Christmas).
1.5M per month on average. 13.5/9.
700k July, Aug. 700k, 850k Sept, 750k Oct, 1.8M Nov, 2.0M Dec, 850k Jan, 750k Feb, 1.2M March.
Jul. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Aug. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Sept. 300-350k U.S (rest worldwide)
Oct. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Nov. 800k U.S, rest worldwide.
Dec. half split.
Jan. 350k U.S, rest worldwide. (SFV)
Feb. 200k-250k U.S, rest worldwide.
March, 550k U.S, rest worldwide. (Uncharted 4)
My estimates out of my behind. Comes about --> 9.6M.
13.5m - 9.6m = 3.9m(/9 = 433k/month) shortfall to be distributed among the months. If they're going to push all of that I see a price drop in the mix.
700k July, Aug. 700k, 850k Sept, 750k Oct, 1.8M Nov, 2.0M Dec, 850k Jan, 750k Feb, 1.2M March.
Jul. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Aug. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Sept. 300-350k U.S (rest worldwide)
Oct. 250k U.S (rest worldwide)
Nov. 800k U.S, rest worldwide.
Dec. half split.
Jan. 350k U.S, rest worldwide. (SFV)
Feb. 200k-250k U.S, rest worldwide.
March, 550k U.S, rest worldwide. (Uncharted 4)
My estimates out of my behind. Comes about --> 9.6M.
13.5m - 9.6m = 3.9m(/9 = 433k/month) shortfall to be distributed among the months. If they're going to push all of that I see a price drop in the mix.