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Splatoon |OT4| You're a detriment to your squad
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After some testing I can confirm that the skulls are still spooky.
Care to tell me why buffing abilities that saw zero use in interesting manners is a bad thing? There were no nerfs either so I'm not really sure what's being addressed there either.
Leatherface
Member
Well bombs/seekers/mines were kind of nerfed as a result of a buff. Kind of bummed that my special is not as effective anymore if you have bomb sniffer buff. Bombs should wreck shit, no exceptions! Where is my tee-shirt that will absorb 40% damage from people who shoot me while bubbled? Stupid bubble!
Two maps were nerfed to make them easier for scrubs to play.
Leatherface is right, bombs and seekers essentially received a nerf.
And buffing Haunt the way they did effectively nerfs point sensors and echolocators.
And Inkzooka and Bomb Rush absolutely did not need a buff of any kind.
How were they nerfed?
Hey the developers had to think something was amiss for them to go and change the layout of those 2 stages to their splat zone variations. Doesn't help that any decent charger can shut down those maps from half way across the map lol.
Besides there's still bluefin and port...and musem...walleye....saltspray, skatepark etc.
Please... the only reason they dumbed it down was because (some) players complained. Same reason we got the weapon nerfs.
It was quite easy to get thru the choke points if you properly used the right specials (Inkstrike, Killer Wail, Inkzooka, Kraken, etc) and a little teamwork.
PreyingShark
Member
Man, I loved not being able to move past 1/3rd of the map if I didn't have a Killer Wail charged and then have to hope that the 3 second opening I got was enough to run across the map, along with hoping that my teammates, who I have no real way of communicating with, cooperated during that 3 second opening.
I loved the old version of Towers so much, it's such a shame they changed it.
I could actually win the vast majority of the time on that map in Turf Wars with randoms but I basically had to camp in this one spot the entire time. It was dumb and not very fun but I play2win so I did it anyways.
CoconutTank
Member
Specials help, but making specials mandatory to break into an area that's locked down by a charger is rather unsatisfying. Intercepting the chargers before they reach their perch is extremely impractical on towers and malls, so the only pragmatic counter-play is to build up special before pushing mid. Is there any reason why this scenario needs to be so easy to set up, yet so difficult to break though, while also commanding that much attention?
Pokemaniac
Member
Depending on which region you live in, this may actually make things worse. I've generally observed that connection issues tend to proliferate more during Splatfests.
PreyingShark
Member
At least 20% of Americans use their asshole for their internet in this game, if not an even higher % than that.
Yeah...as far as this game and the matchmaking are the way it is then we'll have to wait until the sequel for better online options.
PotionBleue
Member
Apparently, not pushing the objective below 30 on purpose in order not to activate the enemy team's Last-Ditch Effort ability is a thing now in Ranked Rainmaker:
https://www.twitch.tv/2dos/v/53328385
https://www.twitch.tv/2dos/v/53328385
I figured this would become a thing.
PreyingShark
Member
If you can see that you're fucked and about to die anyways, as was the case here, then that is a really good idea, especially if you saw that one of the opponents had a Last-Ditch Effort hat.
Still... lmfao, that guy actually did that so soon into the patch. Hahahahaha
RobotChant
Member
Nintendome Squid Science 2.6.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T19MkTTaU
Why didn't Nintendo leave well enough alone. I never bothered with the meta game and just use what I like, but that sniffer and haunt buff, why! Why even include the inkmine in the buff since it's already such a weak sub compared to other bombs.
I do like that recon will show equipped weapons. I was also a fan of old Moray Towers even without being a charger user. It's a fun stage, and one person can defend the home turf by them self. Arowana can go fuck itself. It is just too narrow/enclosed, and once good teams control the choke point it's hard to come back. Moray Towers was the right way of creating a choke point, and Arowana was the wrong way to create a choke point. Even with the changes I'm sure I'll still heavily dislike Arowana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T19MkTTaU
Why didn't Nintendo leave well enough alone. I never bothered with the meta game and just use what I like, but that sniffer and haunt buff, why! Why even include the inkmine in the buff since it's already such a weak sub compared to other bombs.
I do like that recon will show equipped weapons. I was also a fan of old Moray Towers even without being a charger user. It's a fun stage, and one person can defend the home turf by them self. Arowana can go fuck itself. It is just too narrow/enclosed, and once good teams control the choke point it's hard to come back. Moray Towers was the right way of creating a choke point, and Arowana was the wrong way to create a choke point. Even with the changes I'm sure I'll still heavily dislike Arowana.
BlueSilver
Member
This was a gear and map patch. Weapons and subs may come in later.
Hilarious, but I don't buy that this is a good strategy. In the video that squid could've made it onto the ramp, pushing the counter into the 20s or even teens. You never know when a push will be your last opportunity to advance the ball. And you're going to throw that away to prevent maybe a couple of your opponents from being a bit more efficient and respawning one second faster?
I'm glad all these abilities were buffed to diversify the meta. But they're weapon and team composition-specific. None of them are straight OP from my testing. Not LDE, not tenacity, not bomb sniffer.
Haunt is the most interesting because it diversifies the Cold-Blooded meta. If y'all gals and tentateks want to take back the aggressive upper-hand in exchange for the full duration of my point sensors, go right ahead. My teammates will get you if I don't.
twothunder
Member
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Artwork for Splatoon selling a million in Europe
We got quite a bit Splatoon artwork this week. The more the better of course
I haven't changed my ranked loadout in 9 months.
Jeff Vader
Member
I find this hard to believe. You're saying since ranked began you have not changed gear?
CoconutTank
Member
For other loadouts, I plan on doing some more experimentation to see what I might like.
For Rapid Blaster Pro Deco though, I think I'll find it hard to branch out very much. Damage Up is pretty important for the Rapid Blaster family; without it, you will be getting 4HKOs or higher most of the time, which is really bad.
For Rapid Blaster Pro Deco though, I think I'll find it hard to branch out very much. Damage Up is pretty important for the Rapid Blaster family; without it, you will be getting 4HKOs or higher most of the time, which is really bad.
I'm liking Last Ditch Effort and Haunt. It's like a big "Screw You" to the enemies for marking me, and then if things go awry it gets even funner.
Still haven't tried Recon! I need to get on that tomorrow. Regiruler made a good point for it with Inkbrush Noueveau, so that's what I'll try it with.
Still haven't tried Recon! I need to get on that tomorrow. Regiruler made a good point for it with Inkbrush Noueveau, so that's what I'll try it with.
PreyingShark
Member
The issue wasn't that one person can defend the home turf by themselves. Which is still the case BTW; you just have to actually move now.
The issue was that a good sniper, generally an E-Liter, could defend not just their home base but the middle and a significant portion of the enemy's base all by themselves. Again, they could defend a good part of the enemy's base without leaving their own turf; that's dumb. At higher levels of play, Turf Wars Moray quickly devolved into one E-Liter trying to get to the sniping spot before the enemy's E-Liter while everyone else tried to get their specials so they could actually fucking do something.
Like yeah, the map's fun at Splat Fests-level of play. But in better rooms the map was a boring campfest as long as there's at least one good E-Liter in the room.
Maybe since a week after ranked started. Can probably count the number of times I've used another set in rated since on one hand.
Towers is only barely more "fun" to play on now. I don't know why I thought it'd be some big change considering I also hate the map in all Ranked modes.
I have a relatively small amount of Ranked sets compared to my whatever I feel like at the time in Turf War, but there's still some variety. I can't imagine using one set for that long. Though at this point it'd probably feel weird for you to change gear, wouldn't it? Kind of like how some people will use the same avatar on a forum for ten+ years.
I have a relatively small amount of Ranked sets compared to my whatever I feel like at the time in Turf War, but there's still some variety. I can't imagine using one set for that long. Though at this point it'd probably feel weird for you to change gear, wouldn't it? Kind of like how some people will use the same avatar on a forum for ten+ years.
How come every update makes the game's netcode worse than the last? Balance adjustments seem fine but I'm no Splat Master 9000 or anything, matchmaking adjustments have greatly increased communication errors. I also miss the old days where ranked was only splat zones and leaderboards at the end of a match were based on number of splats...
Dragonoise
Member
Ever since I switched to a wired connection, I've only got disconnected once during mid-match. My teammates usually drop out like flies which can get annoying. Are you using a wireless connection?
Also, the game isn't even a year old, so isn't it a bit early to be reminiscing about the "old days"?
Jeff Vader
Member
Sweet. Mine have triple ink saver main, but none of my weapon sets really need it- or last ditch effort. Thinking of going back to the shades though because they're just that fresh.
Oh and I love the new Moray Towers.
Dragonoise
Member
Some things never change.
Taking a break from Splatoon because of some hand pain, so I made a thing. Might go back and tweak it, though that remains to be seen. Good enough for now!
That's hilarious. Will reference this a ton! oh and hope your hand feels better soon.
tonyh24613
Member
The new Splatfest is basically ranked mode with turf war rules.
Your starting fest power depends on your rank.
C-~C+ 1000
B-~B+ 1200
A-~A+ 1400
S,S+ 1600
I'm at A rank, starts at 1400, winning gives you 10 power and 7(5+2) fest points.
Your starting fest power depends on your rank.
C-~C+ 1000
B-~B+ 1200
A-~A+ 1400
S,S+ 1600
I'm at A rank, starts at 1400, winning gives you 10 power and 7(5+2) fest points.
PotionBleue
Member
New Splatfest for Europe/Oceania: Hoverboard vs. Jet Pack
https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/708608722621374464
starts Saturday March 19th 19:00 CET
https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/708608722621374464
starts Saturday March 19th 19:00 CET
Daria Morgendorffer
Member
Yay it's at the correct time again
Europe finally getting an awesome Splatfest, I expect this one to be very difficult to call.
That was awesome
Calling hoverboards taking popularity.