Possumowner
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So so pleased Splatoon won.Fully deserved,in my opinion for what its worth.
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Splatoon wins 'Best Multiplayer' and 'Best Shooter' @ TGA 2015
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Yezzzzzzzzzz. Shooting and swimming in Splatoon are some of the most amazingly deep single-input mechanics I've ever seen. Each one seamlessly accomplishes and influences so many different things it's absurd. They both complement each other in a perfectly coherent way via the properties of ink, and it doesn't just affect you, but your team and your enemies as well. Some of the lowest complexity I've seen with some of the highest depth. Superb game design. God I gotta go play Splatoon now.
That's so ridiculous I almost don't believe it... Almost..
The reactions remind me of the times Between Worlds won GOTY on Gamespot, I mean how could they it was the same year as GTA V and TLoU?!
Instead of people going "ok so there must something this game has going for it, I'll check it out" we get crap like it being a colorful kids game. Wtf is this shit? It's why I no longer consider myself a gaming enthusiast in the general sense.
Remove specials from the equation and you have a top contender imo. This is coming from someone who played CS GO regularly prior to the release. The very ink you spray on the ground is literally the space you have to work with, you're a sitting duck in enemy ink but there is also neutral ground where you can walk normally but not swim. You're constantly being put in decision making positions that greatly impact the outcome of the entire match and the possibillities are endless.
Instead of people going "ok so there must something this game has going for it, I'll check it out" we get crap like it being a colorful kids game. Wtf is this shit? It's why I no longer consider myself a gaming enthusiast in the general sense.
Remove specials from the equation and you have a top contender imo. This is coming from someone who played CS GO regularly prior to the release. The very ink you spray on the ground is literally the space you have to work with, you're a sitting duck in enemy ink but there is also neutral ground where you can walk normally but not swim. You're constantly being put in decision making positions that greatly impact the outcome of the entire match and the possibillities are endless.
CaviarMeths
Member
Probably late, but whatever.
I've never understood this gif. People have different opinions on things, news at 11.
best show ever.
And it's not some lame kid show. Man, it's got real themes, partial nudity and blood.
yes, this a reference to that beyblade thing
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not quite the same gif
Megas XLR was cool too
Only watched a few episodes (maybe 3-4) of that back in the day. I was meh on it.
So Why is 3/4 of my avatar the MC from the show?
dunno.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Splatoon is really the online online multiplayer shooter that has hooked me for an extended period so it definitely deserves it.
Ive enjoyed other games in spurts, but with splatoon I can pick it up every now and again and have a fun session. Once you get good enough that your performance generally determines the outcome of the match is awesome.
It's also really innovative by turning some problems with shooters on their heads. Sure the paint the turf is not the first time it's been done, but it is the main mode here. What this means is that new players can have fun and contribute without dying and respawning every 5 seconds. The game is popular for a reason. It's fun.
Other interesting innovations:
-these mechanics punish camping
-inking turf increases mobility, stealth, reloading, health. controlling a point of interest adds a lot of strategy. You dont have to kill opponents to do damage. controlling/inking areas adds up.
-"missing" shots is not worthless, but you still get punished by using up in.
-"reload", hide, regen, "run" is one button
-gyro aiming allows you to aim while pressing face buttons.
These little things add up to a pretty compelling and novel experience. Expect copycats from Sony and Microsoft next gen.
Ive enjoyed other games in spurts, but with splatoon I can pick it up every now and again and have a fun session. Once you get good enough that your performance generally determines the outcome of the match is awesome.
It's also really innovative by turning some problems with shooters on their heads. Sure the paint the turf is not the first time it's been done, but it is the main mode here. What this means is that new players can have fun and contribute without dying and respawning every 5 seconds. The game is popular for a reason. It's fun.
Other interesting innovations:
-these mechanics punish camping
-inking turf increases mobility, stealth, reloading, health. controlling a point of interest adds a lot of strategy. You dont have to kill opponents to do damage. controlling/inking areas adds up.
-"missing" shots is not worthless, but you still get punished by using up in.
-"reload", hide, regen, "run" is one button
-gyro aiming allows you to aim while pressing face buttons.
These little things add up to a pretty compelling and novel experience. Expect copycats from Sony and Microsoft next gen.
Nothing is really overpowered, there are optimal weapons for
I hope that I never encouner that player
10/10 XD
geordiemp
Member
Not really, I play online and coop what I would call shooters, games where recoil control, accuracy, selecting gun attachments, quick to aim, dealing with flinch and doing the good stuff like strafing, jump shooting and what i would call GUN PLAY is the order of the day. Accuracy, recoil control, feathering teh gun, quick scoping snipers....I just dont see it at all in Splatoon...
Games in this category are very popular, the COD, Halo, Destiny, BF etc.
I am sure Splatoon is a good multiplayer game but I would not put it in a 'shooter genre' by any stretch of the imagination....
and I dont see the COD, Destiny or Halo crowd taking any notice of a few critics in a room who probably are not really into 'shooters' and taking any note, at all.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's a third person shooter, it's plain as day.
geordiemp
Member
Wow I am convinced, time to move from Bo3 and destiny etc, gunplay sounds great.
I am not saying its a good game, but it is not what I would refer to as a shooter = great gun play.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
You don't have to care for the style but don't try to make up the rules of the shooter genre.
Just because it's different doesn't change the fact that it's a shooter.
Dude, what?
The avatar is a part of you'r life. The avatar is a part of you.
YOU CAN'T USE AND AVATAR WHICH YOU DON'T EVEN CARE.
Lucina for me is love. Lucina for me is life. <3
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
boiled goose
good with gravy
Hahaha. A competitive shooter in which you shoot is not a shooter (by any stretch of the imagination...)
hilarious.
umm all of these are in splatoon.
jump shooting
Accuracy
quick scoping snipers
shooting ink vs bullets does add different mechanics. You can through ink over obstacles for example.
Splatoon has equivalents of machine guns, gattling guns, sniper rifles (with and without scopes), shotguns, melee weapons, accurate guns, spray guns, semi automatics, grenades, bazookas, air strike, mines, but... it's not a shooter.
A perfect example of people talking shit without knowing what they are talking about AT ALL.
lol, this is like the 3D Mario argument
the game might not jive with you for the reasons you mentioned, and that's cool, but it's a third person shooter. that's not really debatable.
Dude, what?
The avatar is a part of you'r life. The avatar is a part of you.
YOU CAN'T USE AND AVATAR WHICH YOU DON'T EVEN CARE.
Lucina for me is love. Lucina for me is life. <3
ha ok, i'll stop the weekenders gif.
I like my avatar, I just don't care about the people in it.
Speaking of Splatoon, I got back into it again after that last direct for a bit. Cool that it won, but I'm surprised one of the big names didn't take it.
Gotdatmoney
Member
ha ok, i'll stop the weekenders gif.
I like my avatar, I just don't care about the people in it.
Speaking of Splatoon, I got back into it again after that last direct for a bit. Cool that it won, but I'm surprised one of the big names didn't take it.
Please more weekenders gifs please
victreeb3l
Member
Best part of the Splatoon experience is how short each match is. I can just turn on the Wii U and play a handful of games in just 15 mins and then go about my day. Even if a game is going bad I know itll be over soon.
Thats one thing I miss sorely when Im playig Halo for example. On average matches are like 8-15 minutes long. I have to really invest in it whereas Splatoon is more pick up and play.
Thats one thing I miss sorely when Im playig Halo for example. On average matches are like 8-15 minutes long. I have to really invest in it whereas Splatoon is more pick up and play.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
This one dude I know that might get a Wii U and thinks this game looks cool is perplexed at the really short time of each match.
I told him that it just works and you have to experience it.
Take it from a guy who's probably spend months of his live playing CS 1.6, the only thing that are truly lacking in Splatoon are Spectator mode, more community features(like Tournament Mode, Party VC, Leaderboards, more social features, more streaming features).
- Recoild control is present,
- Strifing is present, usually users with weapons that allow greater mobility use it and are notoriously difficult to hit.
- Accuracy is unparalleled for a console shooter without k+m controls
- Aiming is precise for chargers(snipers) hence the earlier gifs I showed of some charger play. While other weapons require varying degree of aiming.
- Gyro is miles better at fast/twitch like aiming - compared to regular control methods on consoles
- Jump shooting is prevalent, it's very important for rollers, chargers(snipers) & blasters, while other classes don't utilize it as much because it places them at a disadvantage.
I'd recommend you checkout some videos of Yugo1 or Dude playing before making such statements.
None of those games have ink traversal, so I don't consider them shooters.
Yes, that's how flat out dumb your logic sounds to everyone here.
Goldenroad
Member
I could see Best Shooter, but come on guys, Rocket League!!! I'm down. Who's up for a round?
Splatoon has a different type of skill ceiling. It's not about technical skill such as learning ladder physics in CS GO and being able to consistently use it to your advantage. The mechanics are very straight forward to master, everybody knows how to perform a squid jump with 100% consistency, for example.
That's what I... like about Splatoon, I don't have to spend hundreds of hours refining my grenade placement; practicing stuff like that has more to do with translating the move you picture in your head into the game. This has nothing to do with strategy (i.e. the fun part), it's just something you have to learn if you want to enjoy CS on a high level.
The skill part in Splatoon is all about map awareness. There is a TON to learn in terms of angles you can die from and the various distances depending on which weapons the other team has.
You can't easily distinguish a high skill player from a pro in Splatoon, the difference isn't visible to someone who isn't into the game. You can only notice the difference if you understand the reasoning behind a player's move. The sniper gif circulating is more about knowing the common angles than anything else, anyone can jump into an empty map and replicate the same thing he did, whereas I can post you now some videos of CS players who've mastered the arts of bunny jumping, very few are able to reach that level of technical skill because it requires countless hours of practice.
freethoughtbubble
Member
This post is hilarious. Even by your own definition (cherry-picking and self-serving as it is) Splatoon is a shooter. Hang out in an S-rank lobby for one game and tell me you're not full of shit... and then I'll know you're full of shit.
Edit: in case it wasn't clear, I'm happy the game's getting recognized. It's great. Also would have accepted Rocket League for best multi, though. Also great.
CaviarMeths
Member
It's basically "I like blue. I do not like powder blue. Therefore, powder blue is not a real shade of blue."
Exactly, your post nailed it. Geordiemp's remarks of Splatoon are the typical BS from people who don't know the game. It's hilarious.
Destiny is a utter cluster-fuck and the upgrades and customization are merely tools of addiction which don't even have the common decency to disguise themselves.
pinkurocket
Member
Ye but look at all the colors how can you take it serious as a shooter?
openrob
Member
To be honest, I think it's it is the other way around.
People expect some 'Best Multiplayer' contenders to be fun and colourful, and shooters to be 'mature' but that is stupid and besides the point.
Splatoon is an absolutelyamazing shooting game, lots of content, great gameplay and deserved to win. Best multiplayer...I'm not so sure. Lack of local co-op, no voice chat, etc means that as a multiplayer game, it falls a bit short.
It's amazing though, everyone should go play it