balladofwindfishes
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Did you not like Melee's roster?
Doc is a vet. Why aren't we rejoicing a veteran of the series, a fallen friend, has joined us again? This is the best thing ever, like finding a lost friend after so many years.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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Did you not like Melee's roster?
Doc is a vet. Why aren't we rejoicing a veteran of the series, a fallen friend, has joined us again? This is the best thing ever, like finding a lost friend after so many years.
But this is a case of changing part of his trademark look. It's been pointed out they were careful to keep this aspect across three games with three different models and now suddenly they say sod it? He tweaks designs, but he doesn't remove core parts of the design. It's like removing the M from Mario's hat.
It's a detail a Ness fan would notice, but a general Smash fan may not (I admit I did not know this detail until today), which is why it's being put forward as a hurdle the leaker tripped over.
Vampirolol
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Where is the image that was circulating yesterday, the one with Ridley, Mewtwo and the others marked with a red X? I want to know what was that about...
Show methe official Dr Mario pose like that and you have an argument
In an ideal world, the DLC is included on disc with the Wii U version for free.
Weiner Whistle
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Mr. G&W's appearance in this trailer doesn't mean it's how he's gonna look in-game, just like Palutena and Little Mac don't use their respective art styles from their trailers in the game. Not to mention his outlines are an extremely important part of his design, since it gives him contrast against all background colors.
User 73706
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I'm really just enjoying the shitstorm of teamreal versus teamfake, but an argument can be made that G&W bare minimum would require a white outline because, from a graphic design / visual identification standpoint, it's a bad idea to make him a single flat color. Any color. As soon as he's up against a dark background without an outline, he's invisible - likewise with brights and whites, blues against skyboxes, etc.
That doesn't make any sense, honestly. Ness "read" just fine in the first three games, and removing the curved partial stripe at the bottom of his shirt doesn't make him any easier to see. There are far more intricate character models in the 3DS version, like the Fire Emblem cast. Ness is one of the more inherently simplistic characters in the series he doesnt need to be dumbed down.
Mr. G&W's appearance in this trailer doesn't mean it's how he's gonna look in-game, just like Palutena and Little Mac don't use their respective art styles from their trailers in the game. Not to mention his outlines are an extremely important part of his design, since it gives him contrast against all background colors.
The problem with that is the whole outline aspect of the 3DS game. Is G&W going to have outlines on outlines?
balladofwindfishes
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The argument is that it's a modified Mario art and obviously fake. Not that it's taken from official Doc Art, as none such official renders exist for Doc at all.
Why not just show Shulk and applauding Ganondorf at the same time?
Diprosalic
Banned
i think smash wii u will have the dlc included and it comes out on 3ds at the wii u launch.
Exactly. I got the impression that was supposed to look more like an actual G&W character.
Mr. G&W's appearance in this trailer doesn't mean it's how he's gonna look in-game, just like Palutena and Little Mac don't use their respective art styles from their trailers in the game. Not to mention his outlines are an extremely important part of his design, since it gives him contrast against all background colors.
I didn't like Melee's roster. I'm sooooo against redundant characters like Toon Link and Dr. Mario.
But Toon Link is best Link!
Might want to remove that.
Small Mailman
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i want to believe
Foxy Fox 39
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Pac Man looks amazing on 3DS
I'd get rid of that link. Bannable offense.
And that's apparently the Bowser's Castle from Sticker Star, not the original.
balladofwindfishes
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But Doc is better than Mario in Melee and won't have Fludd, so he'll be less redundant.
The leak has another visual angle on a room we have not seen until today in the Tomodachi Life stage. (from Smashboards)
This room has not shown up in any previous screenshots of the stage.
Potential proof it's real. I would want to see something more substantial first though.
Oh damn, another possible point for team real.
Can't see link cause mobile, but wasn't it Sticker Star's Bowser's castle instead?
It would truly suck.
And no, this is definitely not a Lucina situation, it is just straight up lame.
Scooter155
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Self Quoting to clarify - If there is paid DLC I don't think Nintendo will do any sort of "buy one get one" where it comes free on 3DS if you buy it on Wii U or vice versa. I mean, they're making you buy the 3DS Smash and the Wii U Smash separately (which is good, they're different games, you should have to pay for both) and the DLC, if paid, should be sold separately on each system as well.
HOWEVER! I think that if there is any DLC at all for Smash, it will be handled like the free MK8 DLC coming later this month, which is to say, free.
georgetheplushie
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Technically, Japan did get the NES Zapper.I doubt any Duck Hunt-based moveset would involve the Zapper beyond some crosshairs on the screen, if only because of the appearance of its Japanese counterpart.
No way Duck Hunt has gun moves, though.
SliceSabre
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I can't imagine that happening, one of those too good to be true sort of deals.
Wait, a Lucina situation isn't straight up lame?
He'll have mario tornado instead of FLUDD, that alone makes him a better clone than lucina.
Then make Mario better, not Doc!!!
akidnamededdy
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Nah he'll have Antibiotic Gel spray.
The leak has another visual angle on a room we have not seen until today in the Tomodachi Life stage. (from Smashboards)
This room has not shown up in any previous screenshots of the stage.
Potential proof it's real. I would want to see something more substantial first though.
I want to blame it on the blur but there is no way a stairway with such thick steps would go amiss even in a blurry screenshot, and the one underneath that floor can be seen. Unless the Tomodachi stage shifts room positions each playthrough (which would in and of itself not confirm anything) the leak and staircase positioning implies that it's on the top floor when all the promotional screenshots has shown that it's typically on the second.
Doc has a PhD which makes him inherently superior.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Im starting to think its real.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I know, it just sucks imo.
I just don't like the thought of clones..:/
Hey, if Dr.Mario gets a unique moveset then by all means, welcome back.
Only clone i've ever liked using was Toon Link, and thats because TP Link is garbage.
The room positions are randomised every time you pick the stage, it said so in the first picture of it if I remember rightly.
akidnamededdy
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Does anyone else think they'll revisit the Toon Zelda idea they had for Brawl, now that Zelda and Shiek are different characters and it'd be easier to pull off without having to also make some new Toon Shiek?
balladofwindfishes
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That's exactly what it does though. We have screenshots (official ones) of more than 6 rooms.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What? How so?
Beelzebufo
Banned
Not there. It's on the top floor, which doesn't have stairs.
Hahaha, what?! The 3DS is going to be as much of a full-fledged version of SSB as the Wii U version will, veteran stages or not. Smash run, the 1P mode, well thought out online mode, full roster... no idea how it could suddenly be demoted to "appetizer" because some people don't like the stage selection.
Red Arremer
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Same reason his cyan color was banned on some stages in Brawl.
Not really a problem - change the outline according to the team color.
Choppasmith
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I agree with these two. I guess I'm on #TeamNeutral for now. I'd LOVE to see Duck Hunt dog playable, but I can't deny that some of this does seem a little fishy.
You forgot the Duck Hunt Dog render as being for TeamReal. I mean yeah this faker could just have really good 3D artistry skills, but you definitely don't see fakes like this very often. You could say Shulk too, but there's some room where I can see with Photoshop someone constructing Skulk using his ripped Xenoblade model and maybe using Robin's hair (colored yellow) on top of it.
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