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It would be an amazing move if the dog from Duck Hunt was the second west-pandering newcomer and not Ridley.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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Assuming the leak is true, will Bowser Jr. be a "new" character with a novel moveset?
Or would he most likely be a clone of Bowser (a la Link/Toon Link)?
If the leak is valid, it may mean only two truly "new" characters with Shulk and the Duck Hunt Dog, as Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., and Dark Pit would all be clones.
Or would he most likely be a clone of Bowser (a la Link/Toon Link)?
If the leak is valid, it may mean only two truly "new" characters with Shulk and the Duck Hunt Dog, as Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., and Dark Pit would all be clones.
Duck Hunt Dog sounds amazing and I really hope he's on the roster... Smash lately I feel has been catering too much to more-recent Nintendo, let's get some oldskool surprises up in here.
Plus, he's very iconic to Americans who grew up in the 80's.
Plus, he's very iconic to Americans who grew up in the 80's.
I feel like there's a certain undercurrent to making certain leaks speak in a slightly more dubious matter either for purposes of making it a prime talking point (probably because imperfect leaks create for funnier discussions which is probably the real goal of releasing things like this) or because it's a case of trying to maintain some of Sakurai's unpredictable spirit since no one really knows how the guy operates.
So really, making a "leak" less believable personally means nothing to me anymore. It's all a part of the mechanism surrounding the nature of leaks and how open-ended something like Smash Bros. truly is when you have a director like Sakurai on the helm. Something being purposefully less believable doesn't make the leak any more real.
Interesting.
With the liquify tool and some additional painting, you can match Mario's face with that Dr. Mario portrait 1:1.
That's like an extra level of reverse psychology going on there that not many people will attempt because they don't want to be immediately discredited. Sure, 1-2 slightly 'off' things might help, but doing a bunch all at once is a huge gamble.
Mr.Miyamoto
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Ooo! That looks like another point for #TeamFake, but it's also possible that Nintendo was just lazy and altered that model like they recycled the hand images for the Mario Maker stuff.
I hate to use the word, but coincidence, and it's so blurry its hard to even say if it is the same room.
Tomodachi Life has been out in the West for ages so anyone can easily see the designs of rooms not show yet, which is a lot considering we have only had three Tomodachi Life level screenshots.
So yeah, the leaker chose a simple room design for their fake and by coincidence what appears to be the same room appears in Famitsu.
Basically the scan adds nothing to the debate. The room is still unique compared to previously released materials, but it's not hard to get reference images directly from the game.
Heck, it's so small and blurry you could even argue some of it is drawn with the brush tool.
The Great Gonzales
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If Sakurai's really that desperate, sure. But even if Smash 3DS really is short on stages, I have difficulty believing that franchises like DK and Metroid wouldn't even get one new stage. Frankly, I think this is all trading on the unfounded fears that the 3DS version is the gimped version. I'm expecting a full complement of new stages; I have faith enough in Sakurai for that.
Nope. The only thing the leak has in relation to the Paper Mario stage is the stage icon, which is taken from the windmill section.
Interesting.
With the liquify tool and some additional painting, you can match Mario's face with that Dr. Mario portrait 1:1.
I don't see this as for or against, the "fake" mario looks like Mario but in the doctor mario pose, it could be shopped or that could just be what a render of him would look like.
There is really no good "readability" excuse for changing the stripe that Ness' shirt ends in. It has always been part of his design. It makes no sense what-so-ever to change that, and if you tuck out the shirt then the color should still maintain the same.
Yeah, as soon as we get another character render, we should know
...unless Sakurai is, like, a super-troll and uploads a different render to throw us off the trail, but I really doubt he'd do that
The Bankslammer
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certainly a very interesting time for that room to show up in famitsu lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It might be awhile until we break this. Or not.
Cosmic Dreams
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Doc looks like he's frowning compared to that art.
It doesn't matter anyway actually, I read the famitsu scan wrong, the bowser castle is just one of the locations in the paper mario stage.
Ignore my previous post.
The idea of Game & Watch getting redesigned makes a lot of sense, considering characters have the popping outlines on the 3DS and they'd want to maintain that for him. The guy who faked this probably didn't pick up on it.
For reference:
Yeah, Game & Watch wouldn't really need the outlines in HD. However he might retain them for darker stages or backgrounds.
I do believe DLC will come (not necessarily the one leaked today) and will be WiiU exclusive. Doubt it's going to be day-one though.
Interesting.
With the liquify tool and some additional painting, you can match Mario's face with that Dr. Mario portrait 1:1.
Meh. MEH.
Removing a thin yellow sliver doesn't suddenly make Ness more readable.
Like, seriously, what?
balladofwindfishes
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Yep. Either the day of, or around the time of. To hype the series up and boost sales for the holidays.
Those characters would ship day 1 on the WiiU (in the game, on the disc, normal characters) and would be patched into the 3DS version as if nothing happened and they always were there.
Think of Alex Kidd in Sonic All Star Racing Transformed.
The proportions on the face are all different, though. All you have is him putting his arms in a similar pose, and the posing of his arms isn't even the focus of the portrait (the arms being half outside the box).Interesting.
With the liquify tool and some additional painting, you can match Mario's face with that Dr. Mario portrait 1:1.
The Great Gonzales
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I find it an interesting coincidence that a leak appears with a Tomodachi stage icon, and the very next day Famitsu prints what appears to be the exact same picture. This reminds me of the leak on Smashboards that seemed to correctly identify new palette swaps just days before those swaps were shown in the E3 demo. Is it possible that the leaker got ahold of this issue of Famitsu a day or two ahead of time?
KelpPlankton
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You could make that argument with almost any picture of Mario, he always looks like that.
I don't know if that's why Sakurai would do it, but he tweaks the finer details of many other character from game to game, so at some point, he might do the same to Ness. I don't think that stripe breaks the leak.
balladofwindfishes
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Scooter155
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Myn mentioned the liquify tool, which can easily explain the different proportions. As far as I can tell, the Mario image is unmodified next to the Dr. Mario one.
"Pic of the day! Whenever Game & Watch is in a dark area, Alfonso will take over so other players can see him clearly. Alfonso: Leave it to me!"
Diprosalic
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That's a fan edit of the Mario image posted above. Basically the argument being if one person can do it, why not two?
Good summary of things!
Some more quick links: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126302954&postcount=93
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126306335&postcount=204
KelpPlankton
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If anything, isn't this the image we should be comparing the good Doctor to?
This image has already been thoroughly compared to the Mario art in the leak and it doesn't match it at all. The pose is similar but the hair, doctor equipment, clothes render style, and angle of his head are all different.
What a scandalous accusation!
Scooter155
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No. This is a newer, more internet-aware Nintendo, but it's still Nintendo.
IceDoesntHelp
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uggh the thought of dr.mario and dark pit in makes my head hurt.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah I could see that. Maybe when you purchase it on specific eshop, and it would give out version codes.
balladofwindfishes
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Palutena is obviously fake
Just modified Kid Icarus Uprising art!
Just modified Kid Icarus Uprising art!
Not sharing exactly but just let you download it on one of the platforms for free, basically the same thing. If not, I think there will be some kind of discount or bonus regarding DLC if you own both versions of the game.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, it's easier to make cloned comparing to full fledged character.
The Great Gonzales
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I think so. I trust Nintendo isn't quite sleazy enough to make you purchase the same thing twice. We already know there will be connectivity between versions; if there's DLC, that seems like a natural thing to make transferrable.
I'd hope it would end up one of two ways:
1) Free DLC released with WiiU version launch.
2) Priced DLC, but becomes free if linked to WiiU version.
any other way and I'd be upset.
but I'd still buy it ;(
Whoops, forgot to mention that in my post. Yeah, the hair's different, the stethoscope is in the wrong spot, lab coat's different. Not to mention in the leak he's frowning. I was mainly drawing attention to the pose.
I have no idea how Photoshop works.
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