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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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It's basically this universe's "X-Files".
Another fucking week.
Fuck. I can't wait
and now is just one episode at the time
New character, and most likely only the ones involved in the Laura Palmer case were "in touch" with the supernatural stuff that happened.
Fuck. I can't wait
and now is just one episode at the time
New character, and most likely only the ones involved in the Laura Palmer case were "in touch" with the supernatural stuff that happened.
PurpleMoustache
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I think Bobby saw how much of an asshat he was and cleaned up his act. That's at least my interpretation.
Also, from the crowds we're seeing at the Bang Bang Bar end scenes, I have to imagine at some point Twin Peaks blew up as a town. We might actually be at the population on the sign (originally claimed to be a "typo" by Lynch and Frost when the network demanded that the population be increased). An influx of people means more police force which means transfers and hires from across the state.
I've seen something like this happen first hand. We have a summer family home in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, in a small town called Eagle Harbor. There's no cell service there, and they got internet 5 years ago. Even then it's dialup speeds. It's incredibly hard to get to and find... and yet, the roads around it were written up as "The most beautiful motorcycling roads" in some magazine or website. Since then there's been a drastic uptick in tourism from Cyclists and motorists alike, with quite a few of them buying real estate.
Who best to police the drug-smuggling across the border than someone with first-hand experience?
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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Damn it's going to be hard to wait for a part per week. Wonder if it's going to keep up the band at the end of an episode doubtful but I could only dream they would put beach house (who's sound fits it perfectly) or the joy formidable (who did a cover of the main theme and it's pretty good)
Finale probably haha
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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But Bobby of all people. Most likely he did turn a new leaf. Kinda felt bad after him looking at the Laura picture.
Remember Major Briggs' dream?
Intheflorsh
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I think that's just supposed to be a reflection.
Violence Jack
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Scene with Bobby reacting to Laura's photo just brought back a flood of nostalgia when the theme hit.
Fuck that scene is so good and hopeful
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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Not a chance. Its been like 4 years since I watched it. Kinda been wanting to rewatch it because I know I'm forgetting stuff but always thought it was one of those random things.
As sad as that would make me, having to wait for so long, it would also be the sweetest thing ever
eyeball_kid
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I didn't like him in this role at all. The best characters on the show play their roles straight, even if their character is a loony. Cera had that "i'm just fucking with you" tone in his voice the whole time. I like Cera, but his performance made the scene more like a parody of Twin Peaks.
SuperStiltzkin
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He doesn't have his shit eating grin 😁
Subjective opinions can be wrong? News to me.
brianjones
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yeah and the fact it's cera too is a little distracting
original twin peaks was mostly unknowns
polyh3dron
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Agent Jeffries was David Bowie.
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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Honestly the more known actors playing in random roles that make no sense at all is completely welcomed. That is a bit of what makes twin peaks twin peaks. The more out of place people are the more they feel like they are in the twin peaks world. Especially Wally with how his parents are.
fallengorn
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Finished up ep 3 and 4.
When Bobby started to sob uncontrollably and the Laura theme started up... it was like old times.
When Bobby started to sob uncontrollably and the Laura theme started up... it was like old times.
Poimandres
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Sooo anyone thinking the weird blackened guy who disappers in the cell in ep 2 = Douggie?
I feel like the reason some may think it doesn't feel like "Twin Peaks" is the DP (Frank Byers) isn't back. His tight shots and depth of focus is definitely different than the new series. In the original, most shots are closeups with shallow DOF. In HD now, the show is wide, further back, less depth of focus.
Yeah I totally took that as some sort of revenge towards everyone disliking James. Especially since when James is first shown they make a point of telling you that he was always cool.
Chuckie
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It was actually the first thing I thought when I saw him.
When Lynch directed it was usually wide shots. Sometimes ultra wide.
I don't know where else to write this so I'm going to do it here.
If it weren't for this season of Twin Peaks, I'd never have heard the absolutely incredible "SHADOWS" by Chromatics. Hell, the song may have never existed if not for this show.
It has, put into an incredibly simple song, a wide range of emotions I haven't been able to properly verbalize for the better part of three years. I'm actually tearing up writing this post.
The instrumental of the song makes me envision a life in which events play out like a movie, that everything that has happened to me in the last few years would resolve and all the strife and heartache would turn on its head like the climax of a romantic film.
I'm going to keep this fairly vague, as to not turn into a girl-gaf post, but my wife and I separated a few years back, and I'm still dealing with the emotional turmoil from the fallout of it all. We've both changed as people, but her more than I. To the point where I'm very much trying to figure out her actions and reasons for why things ended up the way they did (she's gone complete radio silence, and cut me out of her life entirely, even though things ended amicably).
The lyrics of SHADOWS, while limited, work in an incredible tandem with the sound of the song and the emotions I struggle with in trying to figure out what changed in our lives, its like some weird credits sequence playing over my life.
I don't really know where this post is going to be honest, but already being a fan of Twin Peaks prior to all of this, the mere fact this song exists and affects me so strongly is some weird side effect of amount of influence this journey has had on my life.
Music has always affected me strongly. A random lyric or song coming on the radio or random on spotify will set me into a nostalgic and reflective mood. And every time I think of or hear SHADOWS, It gives me incredible pause, like waves of understanding crashing over me.
It doesn't make anything better, or worse, actually. It just makes me feel.
I just hope it doesn't take 25 years for her to tear down the walls she's since put up.
Meanwhile.
If it weren't for this season of Twin Peaks, I'd never have heard the absolutely incredible "SHADOWS" by Chromatics. Hell, the song may have never existed if not for this show.
It has, put into an incredibly simple song, a wide range of emotions I haven't been able to properly verbalize for the better part of three years. I'm actually tearing up writing this post.
The instrumental of the song makes me envision a life in which events play out like a movie, that everything that has happened to me in the last few years would resolve and all the strife and heartache would turn on its head like the climax of a romantic film.
I'm going to keep this fairly vague, as to not turn into a girl-gaf post, but my wife and I separated a few years back, and I'm still dealing with the emotional turmoil from the fallout of it all. We've both changed as people, but her more than I. To the point where I'm very much trying to figure out her actions and reasons for why things ended up the way they did (she's gone complete radio silence, and cut me out of her life entirely, even though things ended amicably).
The lyrics of SHADOWS, while limited, work in an incredible tandem with the sound of the song and the emotions I struggle with in trying to figure out what changed in our lives, its like some weird credits sequence playing over my life.
I don't really know where this post is going to be honest, but already being a fan of Twin Peaks prior to all of this, the mere fact this song exists and affects me so strongly is some weird side effect of amount of influence this journey has had on my life.
Music has always affected me strongly. A random lyric or song coming on the radio or random on spotify will set me into a nostalgic and reflective mood. And every time I think of or hear SHADOWS, It gives me incredible pause, like waves of understanding crashing over me.
It doesn't make anything better, or worse, actually. It just makes me feel.
I just hope it doesn't take 25 years for her to tear down the walls she's since put up.
Meanwhile.
I'll take your word for it, but Byers was on all 29 episodes.
My ex-wife just told me she was getting remarried, so I totally feel your situation and this song in a similar way.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Holy hell, so I wasn't just outright imagining things... Okay, so I've been saying about episode 3 strangely reminding me of Lynch's scripts for Ronnie Rocket. For those who don't know, Ronnie Rocket was a movie that Lynch wanted to get made early in his career that he never managed to get picked up though he tried multiple times over the years but never managed to get it off the ground. There's more than one script of the Ronnie Rocket film you can find online with some pretty big differences (there's two I know of and read) as the film changed with Lynch trying to pitch it over the years but being denied. He originally concocted the Ronnie Rocket script after Eraserhead, and then tried another version after Dune and tried again after Lost Highway.
So the Purple place at the start of Part 3 for some reason was REALLY reminding me of Ronnie Rocket. Partly because Ronnie Rocket was supposed to be set on a strange surreal planet, had a lot to do with electricity, there was a scene of some people banging on a door and a lot of the movie is split into two with one group trying to escape the city and strange forces following them, and space and time played a role in the film. Nothing goes 100% in the Ronnie Rocket direction, but I was conjured with remembering the scripts for the film and I was wondering if I was just imagining it or not.
BUT, I decided to re-read both scripts, and not only am I now more certain that Lynch might of been pulling this scene from how he's envisioned Ronnie Rocket, but I realized a line from the episode is literally directly lifted from the Ronnie Rocket script. There's a few lines that are used as the 'prologue' of Ronnie Rocket to introduce the world which are the same in both versions of the script, which talk about a strange world in kind of a poetic way. And literally one of the lines from this opening that's in both Ronnie Rocket scripts is said by Albert in the episode itself, ”The absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence," which is literally the subtitle Lynch used for his script for Ronnie Rocket. And it wasn't just any line, this line was literally being used as Ronnie Rocket's slogan which also popped up in both scripts openings, like this line was the movie's slogan meant for posters for the film and such and is the header of the Ronnie Rocket script.
I'm having a sneaking suspicion that Lynch is sneaking in elements of screenplays he always wanted to make but never came to exist in this new season where he's given complete creative control.
Here's a quote from David Lynch on Ronnie Rocket:
Here's an old video of him talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXoMx-l4VCw
Like literally, Lynch talked about Ronnie Rocket and would use that line in a few interviews and would talk about some things he wanted, though if you read the scripts there's a lot more going on in the films. He would mention without fail that the movie was about, "the absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence." To him that was what Ronnie Rocket was about, and I don't think it's coincidence the opening to Episode 3 has some huge Ronnie Rocket vibes and Albert literally later says the movie's slogan.
So the Purple place at the start of Part 3 for some reason was REALLY reminding me of Ronnie Rocket. Partly because Ronnie Rocket was supposed to be set on a strange surreal planet, had a lot to do with electricity, there was a scene of some people banging on a door and a lot of the movie is split into two with one group trying to escape the city and strange forces following them, and space and time played a role in the film. Nothing goes 100% in the Ronnie Rocket direction, but I was conjured with remembering the scripts for the film and I was wondering if I was just imagining it or not.
BUT, I decided to re-read both scripts, and not only am I now more certain that Lynch might of been pulling this scene from how he's envisioned Ronnie Rocket, but I realized a line from the episode is literally directly lifted from the Ronnie Rocket script. There's a few lines that are used as the 'prologue' of Ronnie Rocket to introduce the world which are the same in both versions of the script, which talk about a strange world in kind of a poetic way. And literally one of the lines from this opening that's in both Ronnie Rocket scripts is said by Albert in the episode itself, ”The absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence," which is literally the subtitle Lynch used for his script for Ronnie Rocket. And it wasn't just any line, this line was literally being used as Ronnie Rocket's slogan which also popped up in both scripts openings, like this line was the movie's slogan meant for posters for the film and such and is the header of the Ronnie Rocket script.
I'm having a sneaking suspicion that Lynch is sneaking in elements of screenplays he always wanted to make but never came to exist in this new season where he's given complete creative control.
Here's a quote from David Lynch on Ronnie Rocket:
Here's an old video of him talking about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXoMx-l4VCw
Like literally, Lynch talked about Ronnie Rocket and would use that line in a few interviews and would talk about some things he wanted, though if you read the scripts there's a lot more going on in the films. He would mention without fail that the movie was about, "the absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence." To him that was what Ronnie Rocket was about, and I don't think it's coincidence the opening to Episode 3 has some huge Ronnie Rocket vibes and Albert literally later says the movie's slogan.
They're done in Lynch's style, but I don't think they're supposed to look bad. You're talking about the man who believed that his crappy DV camera's video quality actually added something to Inland Empire, giving you "lots more room to dream."
Lynch is an amateur animator and visual effects artist. All of his animation projects look like this or worse. He also isn't his own best editor, casting director or cinematographer. Even visionary auteurs can benefit from collaborating with people who are more experienced in their fields.
There's absolutely nothing that could be gained by intentionally making even simple stuff like the Silver Mustang Casino logo look like a joke. It's distracting and it's not something that would have happened back when it required more effort. Digital effects are a dangerous tool in Lynch's hands.
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I'm curious about this. When did he say that?
Yeah, I couldn't take him seriously until he started throwing up. He's much more interesting in his current, broken state. I hope he never regains his awkward swagger.
Wouldn't be the first time. The lyrics to "Sycamore Trees" were originally dialogue written for Ronnie Rocket.
Code:
(...) He's on a street
with large low class hotels. He stands in the shadows
in front of one of the hotels and overhears a part of a
conversation between a hard low class girl and a smooth
greasy tatooed man.
GIRL
I got idea, man...you take me for a
walk ( she moves closer to the guy)
under the sycamore trees (closer)
the dark trees that blow, baby. In
the dark trees I'll see you and you'll
see me...I'll see you in the branches
that blow in the breeze...I'll see you
under the trees.Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You know what, I had actually forgotten one of the Ronnie Rocket scripts ended with the main character turning into a Golden Egg. I remembered the script which ended with a Gold Planet, but forgot the egg part. Gold is playing a pretty big role so far in this season of Twin Peaks, and Gold played a big role in that version of Ronnie Rocket that even the ending was focused on a Golden World. Ronnie Rocket was also about Two Worlds which Twin Peaks ended up being about, so I'm getting the huge sensation I think this season of Twin Peaks may be Lynch finally making some of Ronnie Rocket he wanted to for years. I vaguely remembered the Sycamore Tree stuff from the Ronnie Rocket script too, but it's been a while since I read them.
We'll see where it goes, it's obvious this isn't just Ronnie Rocket but I'm thinking Lynch maybe decided to finally explore some things he wanted to explore in that film in this new season. Also I am sort of imagining he might be pulling from some other unfinished projects, like I wouldn't be surprised if tinges of the never made Mulholland Drive TV show pop up in here in some form as an example since that was originally supposed to be a Twin Peaks spin-off.
I'm really thinking it's the Log Lady's husband, as he seems covered in oil, which he kept in his house (Log Lady still had a jar of it in the S2 finale). He also died in a fire which could be an alternate explanation for his blackened appearance. He looks pretty similar to the woodsman from FWWM who has been theorized to be Log Lady's husband.
Intheflorsh
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Lynch has employed deliberately fake looking special effects all throughout his film making career, look at this shitty, creepy mechanical robin from Blue Velvet for instance. It is an intentional choice, but it might be jarring for people used to practical effects in Lynch films.
Personally I'm a fan of the effects this season, especially the computer interfaces that look like something out of Tim and Eric.
Personally I'm a fan of the effects this season, especially the computer interfaces that look like something out of Tim and Eric.
I know, but he was pretty flexible to the episode director. When Duwayne Dunham directed it was all really telephoto compressed shots, for example, and Tim Hunter tended to go wider for a 40s inspired style (including canted angles).
Lynch was aware that the quality of that wasn't objectively the best. He said that he liked how the soft and messy look reminded him of film from the early days of cinema. I guess he came to like that look after Premonitions Following an Evil Deed.
I was thinking the same after the opening two episodes. The way they jump between fragmentary story pieces reminded me a lot of Mulholland Drive .
Gold suddenly has such a major presence in the show, especially in the Dougieganger subplot (even spotlights in the roadhouse switch to golden yellow at the end of Part 3), I wouldn't be surprised if the Gold Box DVD set design became an actual part of Twin Peaks iconography.
It's funny how that design used to make absolutely no sense and here we are, ten years later and gold is on its way to taking over from red and blue as the most significant color in all Twin Peaks.
SpeedBeatz
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Part 5 has popped up streaming on German Sky Go: https://www.skygo.sky.de/serie/sky-atlantic/twin-peaks-3x5--ov-/asset/seriessection/764810.html
(Obviously you have to be a subscriber to their service, in Germany, to watch)
(Obviously you have to be a subscriber to their service, in Germany, to watch)
31GhostsIV
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I logged into Now TV to see if Sky had cocked up in the UK.. but nope.
Interestingly, episodes 3 & 4 are apparently leaving catch up on Now TV today, so that's weird.
Gold comes up a lot in The Secret History, I'm intrigued to see where there going with second doppelgangers transforming into gold balls and Dr Jacoby spray painting shovels.
31GhostsIV
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Double post, apologies.
The perfect Dark
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