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What's up with the 3DS?
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Cygnus X-1
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Reuenthal said:
I was there at that time. Shortly: Nintendo failed with the Gamecube and survived only thanks to its handheld stronghold. Since the ability of Nintendo to make a successful home system was completely excluded, PSP announce was taken as the end of Nintendo making hardware.
Outside hardcore Nintendo's fans, the overwhelming majority of gamers predicted that PSP would have pulverized the DS.
bumpkin said:
You really can't compare the 3DS to the PS2. For one, the PS2 was used by many, many folks as their first DVD drive, and that alone drove sales. Second, PS2 had Tekken Tag. Third, again, the competition wasn't the same and the PlayStation brand was the strongest in the industry.
JoshuaJSlone
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Not necessarily the best example, but just heading to Gaming Forum page 4000 and going back a few at a time until finding something a bit similar, here's Nintendo DS upcoming games -- [US] from January 2005. Nobody be an idiot and bump it, now.Reuenthal said:
That's the most interesting thing about 3DS. As you've mentioned correctly, DS launched at $150 price point that is considered mass market. 3DS launched at the premium $250 price point. I think that Nintendo's idea is to test 3DS on early adopters (mostly Nintendo fans), release more core-friendly games for now and then in a year or two release a new revised version of the handheld with improved battery life and improved naked-eye 3D for about $150-200.Duxxy3 said:
I remember reading Miyamoto's interview not a long time ago where he mentioned that they were experimenting with game concepts for 3DS that would utilize 3D in new ways (something about ghosts). Nintendogs 3DS mediocre performance showed that casual games don't sell on a $250 handheld, so there's no reason to release groundbreaking casual games right now as no one will buy it. Nintendo is very secretive and if you don't see anything groundbreaking in release calendars, it doesn't mean that it is not in development. There's a high possibility that they'll announce something like that at E3 2012 and release it holiday 2012.
JoshuaJSlone
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Previous Game Boys had launched at $100. DS at $150 was not launching at a proven mass-market price--it was just closer than PSP.
Eteric Rice
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If I were them, I'd wait for Mario Kart 3D, and drop the 3DS price to $199.
$250 is just to expensive for a handheld like the 3DS.
$250 is just to expensive for a handheld like the 3DS.
commish said:
Cygnus X-1 said:
Thanks. So it seems very negative expectations back then which were proven incorrect with DS success. It does put some of the overtly negative current reactions into perspective. Although the 3Ds does not deserve an overtly positive reaction either as price, hardware issues are problems, although not such to bring any kind of doom.
Cygnus X-1
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Eteric Rice said:
I would never drop the price before Vita comes out. In the meantime, I would wait if all other possibilities can work or not.
MCXC Pioneer said:
JPRG in the first year of a console, when did it happened before ?? The DS got its first RPG way later, this is typically the late coming games.
Do you expect them to be cheaper than the DS games ?? Here, in Europe, they are the same price as the DS games, that is already good if you ask for ps2/Wii level games.
People here are drama queen. I expect the Vita with its power requirement to suffer an even bigger lack of games in its first year or a big wave of ports like the PSP. Handheld companies are in now way prepared to handle GC/Wii level of teams, that is no surprise that some games are cancelled when publishers see that they have to pay as much as on the home consoles and not being allowed to ask for higher price (and also a small userbase).
MotionBlue
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I thought my sarcasm was obvious.Negaiido said:
Duxxy3 said:
I was refering to cell phones. I feel a portable dedicated gaming device can simply be a bit larger than a smartphone.
ramine said:
Yeah, besides the sound loop not working and restaring after menus. So only play with sound off. Some for Z2. I heard Z3 doesn't have that problem.
Plus the missing d-pad means they had to make it play differently from the regular top-down adventure since you simply can't really maneuver fast and with accuracy.
Still a nice game but I prefer the ones which actually work properly with the touch interface like Nano Panda , Toki Tori or Pinball Deluxe (which has menu graphics issues on SGS-2 but hey, welcome to PC gaming).
sixteen-bit
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It's certainly no Mario Kart.Gravijah said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Gravijah said:
How new of models?
I'd like to see more JRPG developers give the system love. Whether I buy a Vita or 3DS first will probably come down to who can get 3+ JRPGs I am interested in first.
3DS seems like the perfect place to bring a game like:
Breath of Fire 6
Suikoden 6
New Mana game
Wild Arms
Vita also could work for any of the titles mentioned, but then I imagine a much bigger budget and development cycle if they want to make use of the hardware.
3DS seems like the perfect place to bring a game like:
Breath of Fire 6
Suikoden 6
New Mana game
Wild Arms
Vita also could work for any of the titles mentioned, but then I imagine a much bigger budget and development cycle if they want to make use of the hardware.
Cygnus X-1
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Kerrby said:
You were hoping way to much from a remake.
Axkil aka StabMasterArson
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I agree, especially towards anything Nintendo does or doesn't do. I just joined this forum although i've been an avid reader since 2003 i think. I'm here to (in my own humble way) cast off some of the negativity and dispel the misinformation directed towards my favourite videogame company. I know this will always be a war already lost on GaF, but i love to fight.Reuenthal said:
It has no system sellers and it's not offering anything very original worth forking over $250 for. If Nintendo can fix that they'll be set but they need something to go along with the Mario Kart and Pokemon, they need a new Wii Sports or Brain Training and they don't seem to have that for the 3DS.
Freezie KO
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I've been extremely negative about the 3DS's software line-up and launch. I think the launch has been badly botched. As has the eShop. I mean, really they should be releasing a handful of great VC titles a week until the software line-up can hold up at retail.
All that said, as Fall approaches, I'm quite looking forward to Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, and Mario 3DS, the latter of which is my most anticipated of the year.
All that said, as Fall approaches, I'm quite looking forward to Kid Icarus, Mario Kart, and Mario 3DS, the latter of which is my most anticipated of the year.
That list makes me feel seriously nostalgic.JoshuaJSlone said:
Pac Pix <3
Was that Boktai game released as Lunar Knights?
Anyway, on topic, the 3DS will be fine. Release year is slow newsflash. We're just lucky we have all the extra stuff like Streetpass, eShop, Videos etc. to keep us mildly amused between releases. Not to mention the fact that the current line up is not too shabby really, unless you want to buy a new game every week or so. Without resorting to lists, I can think of at least 5 titles worth playing through at least, in as far as they're cool. Also, Link's Awakening.
Early adoptors need not complain, cos there are an assload of DS titles to catch up on. Those on the fence can look forward to some hefty support in the coming months/years. And haters gonna hate.
But yeah, it just came out.
airmangataosenai
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Too many people in this thread are dismissing the DS's first year.
Awesome games I bought for the Nintendo DS within the first year:
Advance Wars DS
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Mario Kart DS
Trace Memory
Castlevania DoS
Kirby Canvas Curse
Lost in Blue
Mario and Luigi
Ouendan (Import)
All games I bought in the first year, all games I very much enjoyed. Yes there was a huge drought in the first half of 2005 and not everyone liked Feel the Magic (I did) at launch, but from E3 2005 on it was clear the DS was going to have a killer line-up, I don't think anyone would argue that going by E3 2005 vs E32011, the DS looked like a much more attractive prospect.
Awesome games I bought for the Nintendo DS within the first year:
Advance Wars DS
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Mario Kart DS
Trace Memory
Castlevania DoS
Kirby Canvas Curse
Lost in Blue
Mario and Luigi
Ouendan (Import)
All games I bought in the first year, all games I very much enjoyed. Yes there was a huge drought in the first half of 2005 and not everyone liked Feel the Magic (I did) at launch, but from E3 2005 on it was clear the DS was going to have a killer line-up, I don't think anyone would argue that going by E3 2005 vs E32011, the DS looked like a much more attractive prospect.
madmaxx350
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Shinobi and Crush3d have been delayed
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/07/19/shinobi-and-crush3d-delay3d/
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/07/19/shinobi-and-crush3d-delay3d/
AceBandage
Banned
Games getting delayed a month or two?! THE 3DS IS DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!
madmaxx350
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AceBandage said:
I personally don't think it is but it sucks though that a lot of quality software are being delayed because of the performace of the handheld when a lot of owners are just begging for exactly that, Software...
Edit: New pokemon later this year?
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/07/20/new_pokemon/
TheNatural
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$250 is too much for the mass market to put up ridiculous sales, no matter what's in it, I'm sorry. Our economy is in the fucking shitter, unemployment is high, and hell - thanks to politics everything period may come crashing down in a few weeks. Yet Sony and Nintendo want us to plop out, including tax or shipping, around $300 plus for a handheld game system and a game?
Not worth it. It's ridiculous, and I don't care what's in the damn system, Vita is no more of a deal because it looks better. It's still $300 to play A game. Both need a few well placed cold slaps in the face for this kind of pricing. Whatever happened to Nintendo's old mantra of value pricing?
Not worth it. It's ridiculous, and I don't care what's in the damn system, Vita is no more of a deal because it looks better. It's still $300 to play A game. Both need a few well placed cold slaps in the face for this kind of pricing. Whatever happened to Nintendo's old mantra of value pricing?
AceBandage
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TheNatural said:
It died when the iPod Touch came out.
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