The One and Done
Member
This shit can't be real. It's fucking underhanded. Wow. You know what, fuck you Microsoft. The anti consumerism just won't stop will it? Funnily enough I almost bought one....again....lol
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Xbox One Price To Go Back Up - Last Chance for $350
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mr teaspoon
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The One and Done;145278487 said:
Underhanded? The company is literally giving you a heads up that the always said to be temporary price is going back up. What the hell is underhanded about that?
Seems absurd to me, 349$ without games was what was reasonable to expect and of course they know that at 399$ they'll be beaten handily so I'm no so sure what's their plan.
Maybe these deals have indeed costed a LOT to them to make and it was an emergency measure not to give up the race even in their main market.
But imo even if this is true and in January price goes back up (and I'm still not totally buying it until I see it, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a marketing stunt to make people ''cry'' and rush to buy it now just to announce later that based on huge request and feedback they're keeping the price lower.....it has happened before in different markets with other products) it won't last long, price will be lowered permanently as soon as they reduce their manufacturing costs, E3 at the latest.
Maybe these deals have indeed costed a LOT to them to make and it was an emergency measure not to give up the race even in their main market.
But imo even if this is true and in January price goes back up (and I'm still not totally buying it until I see it, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a marketing stunt to make people ''cry'' and rush to buy it now just to announce later that based on huge request and feedback they're keeping the price lower.....it has happened before in different markets with other products) it won't last long, price will be lowered permanently as soon as they reduce their manufacturing costs, E3 at the latest.
GreyOcelot
Member
i think the bundles will go up to $399 and the stand-alone system will be $349. they can't be too candid about it. the timed discount will get more sales in the short term
EmptySpace
Banned
why are people surprised and angry?
seriously, you people thought it was gonna be 330-350 forever?
ahaha.
seriously, you people thought it was gonna be 330-350 forever?
ahaha.
R3TRODYCE
Member
Yep
Weeaboosuke
Member
Back to the preseason I suppose.
Chobel
Member
Unless MS is lying to their retailers partners, then no, the price will be back to normal starting Jan 4th.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
They're actually bumping the price back up? Like, for realz?
Wow.
Really curious about December NPD. I think both systems sold much closer to each other in December.
Wow.
Some of us were thinking they'd still keep it at $350 but remove the games, gift cards and free XBL. Which would still get them wrecked, tbh.
Really curious about December NPD. I think both systems sold much closer to each other in December.
I'm surprised to hear this coming from you xDThe One and Done™;145278487 said:
There's been temp price drops in the past.
Americanmushroom
Banned
Please people mark my words, I sold Surfaces and stuff in the past> This is all marketing bullshit. Yes the price will go back up.. but for maximum 1 month
ClayKavalier
Banned
Wow, I thought for sure they'd keep the system at $350 and just take out the bundled games.
Hopefully they'll do some more bundles in the spring, it's hard to imagine to them keeping it at $400 in March with The Order and Bloodborne coming out (not that The Order is going to move systems, but it looks amazing visually).
Hopefully they'll do some more bundles in the spring, it's hard to imagine to them keeping it at $400 in March with The Order and Bloodborne coming out (not that The Order is going to move systems, but it looks amazing visually).
Steverulez
Member
Did I miss something about retail comments?
I mean, the Xbox Wire post clearly states is the AC bundle... I mean, it doesnt necessarily sound like will but they could easily be being specific because they something else planned
Edit: Saw The Shoguns post, well, perhaps they will go back up for a bit, either that or they're packing in at $399. They cant leave vanilla at $399, that would be stupid.
They should be at 349. It's the right price for the console right now. 399 is too much.
Nightengale
Member
Games need to be 'ready' (to an extent) for them to bundle it.
There's no new game within the next 3 months time-frame that MS could bundle without it feeling like it's an undervalued bundle except Evolve.
Witcher 3's delayed till June.
I thought Microsoft has infinite money!? 0_0
I've certainly been wrong before. I guess we'll know for sure come January.
Chobel
Member
OriginofHysteria
Banned
The only thing that's actually making me want to get an Xbone before the price hike is the fact that BB and the Microsoft Store are offering $50 giftcards with the purchase.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
It's really weird once you put it that way. MS is truly banking on those holiday months; short, explosive bursts of energy, but like you say it's an odd strategy and not something that's been done before cyclically. The only reason MS can manage it is b/c they have the money to take the punches in the Jan-Oct months, but that's still a large chunk of the year to get your ass handed to you.
And, like someone else said, they are going to see an even bigger drop than what happened early on this year, since people are going to expect the same strategy next fall. MS's only way of hoping this is sustainable is if they sell by the truckloads and outpace Sony by like 2 million + each holiday season, which won't ever happen, and they can't even count on next holidays being like this one b/c the software lineup (and the price, I'm hoping) on PS4's side is going to be much, much stronger.
I think it's a strategy that kind of underestimates Sony tbh, they're going to very likely pay for it eventually. But between that and other strategies, it's maybe their best one.
GG, MS. Holy crap.
j/k, but hell of a risky strategy
Nightengale
Member
Eh, chances are we'll see MS bring back their never-ending supply of Forza bundles either in February or a slightly later date of January.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
December is still a toss-up tho. PS4 had much better deals in Dec. Plus it's still sitting higher than XBO on Amazon's Best of 2014 chart, by quite a few spots. The gap's probably sub 100k between them in December.
The PS2 dropped to $299 at the end of year 2. That's why it became "the" PS2 on top of having a great library and the hype rolling. The PS4 is likely to have a similar drop, or at the very least a $50 drop before summer. Not only was it built with rapid cost cutting in mind (cf Mark Cerny), but the $399 buyer market will be mostly tapped out by end of 2015. The mass market begins at $299 and both makers know it.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
I don't buy this. Their sales will drop off a cliff if they go back up.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
They weren't going to sell big numbers in January/February anyway. The people who want one will still want one.
RadarScope1
Member
This has been one of the more entertaining threads in a while. At various times posters have said:
-MS is anti-consumer for offering a temporary price cut on their product
-MS will raise the price for a about a week or maybe even just one day, just so they could "say they did it" and drop it back down
-Bloodborne isn't a system seller
-Everyone who wants to play Bloodborne or The Order surely already owns a PS4 (reminds me of "everybody already owns Minecraft" posts we had for about, oh, the last three years)
-Both consoles could drop to $299 as early as E3 this year
-Sony should drop their price even though the PS4 is in the sales lead and demand hasn't significantly slowed yet
-MS is basically just giving up. Might as well sell your XB1now folks...
Love it. The only speculation here that's been anywhere close to reasonable is the guess about the a bare bones SKU staying at $350 while a one-game bundle goes back to $400.
-MS is anti-consumer for offering a temporary price cut on their product
-MS will raise the price for a about a week or maybe even just one day, just so they could "say they did it" and drop it back down
-Bloodborne isn't a system seller
-Everyone who wants to play Bloodborne or The Order surely already owns a PS4 (reminds me of "everybody already owns Minecraft" posts we had for about, oh, the last three years)
-Both consoles could drop to $299 as early as E3 this year
-Sony should drop their price even though the PS4 is in the sales lead and demand hasn't significantly slowed yet
-MS is basically just giving up. Might as well sell your XB1now folks...
Love it. The only speculation here that's been anywhere close to reasonable is the guess about the a bare bones SKU staying at $350 while a one-game bundle goes back to $400.
Most likely one, his username was changed to that for a reason
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Got the AC bundle which gives you AC: Black Flag and AC: Unity digital downloads. For $349 that's a great value.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I can't, you will have to see it and play for yourself. *Brings you over to my house to play*
Yeah, that's what it looks like to me.
See first above post. All it takes is the experience. To a lot, $50 is hardly a deal breaker if they really like and want something. I mean, people were willing to buy 4-10 Xbox 360 when they RRoD. I think the mindshare works.
Beer Monkey
Member
The weirder NA price situation, by far, is the Wii U. Much hyperbole in this thread.
RetrospectiveLamb
Member
I feel like such a sucker buying an Xbox One at launch, smh. At least Dead Rising 3 was an awesome launch title game
This. People won't fall for the same thing twice.
Consumers will say, "Hey, didn't we see this at $350 before?", etc. The effect from it won't be as big because people have already experienced the console at $350 back in November & December. They would have to lower the console to $300 the next time at this point.
If Sony does a price cut within PS4 (especially if they lower it to $300), it'll be a lot bigger in consumer's minds, because Sony has yet to lower the price of the console.
Sony is in no hurry whatsoever to cut the Price of the PS4.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
lol no words
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
The PS4 was build so cost cutting comes quickly. The PS4 will be $299 in September.
thekonamicode
Member
Tax returns in the US. It's anecdotal, but my stores sell a lot of hardware in this time period.