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Xbox One supports Suspend/Resume at launch, PS4 doesn't
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One feature not being in makes it seem they weren't ready for a 2013 launch?
Brad Grenz
Member
Sure there is. Why wouldn't you prefer your system taking 2 seconds to wake up and resume your game exactly where you left off instead of waiting for the system to cold boot, loading the game and then loading the save, something that would take several minutes?
It's also the difference between needing to find a save/check point before quitting a game or being able to leave off at any random point without the risk of losing progress.
It's unfortunate the feature is missing the PS4's launch. I think sleep/resume with game suspension is one of the biggest and most under-rated features of next gen. Once we have it people will wonder how we ever lived without such an obvious convenience.
Well that one thread was the worst backfire I've seen all week... ANYHOO
this was fully expected; hitting the Black Friday/holiday shopping season or missing it to polish up the OS? That choice was made the moment they decided to release in 2013. I don't envy the programmers one bit.
this was fully expected; hitting the Black Friday/holiday shopping season or missing it to polish up the OS? That choice was made the moment they decided to release in 2013. I don't envy the programmers one bit.
Oh, that's what they mean with suspend/resume? Heh.
Of the three, this is the one that should have priority.
I'm actually not a fan of bluetooth headsets being on the network, but they need to get their first party ones up and running pronto.
HDCP isn't something that matters to me directly, but I would like all of the youtubers to be able to upload videos.
It saves you a couple cents a week in power. That is the only difference between it and a pause button. The task switching is much more interesting and is there. I'm just not seeing the incredible nature of sleep for a home based device, sorry.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I mean, there are ways around the HDCP, but it's just costly and would make my setup look ugly. In addition to getting a new capture card (HD PVR doesn't support HDMI), I'd have to spend ~$40 on a splitter and extra HDMI cable.
So what you're saying then is that this entire thread is bullshit and that the PS4 can do precisely what the Xbone can do at launch.
...and will be able to do more later.
Lol @ this entire topic.
Killing_Joke
Member
I'm pretty sure that's the case.
no because this sort of stuff happens at every launch known to man.
Features are promised. Then, as we get closer to launch, we find out they are promised, but they won't necessarily be there at launch. Issues start to arise because people start to get hands on with actual hardware and software. People start to take the measure of what these systems can actually do versus all the pie-in-the-sky PR bullshit, and it always falls short.
It's just launch systems suck ass :/
Killing_Joke
Member
Pretty much. Well it's still possible the X1 could do it day 1, i just wouldn't take that twitter pic as confirmation.
Hazelhurst
Member
It's a big issue imo. Just about all devices nowadays have suspend. That should be a standard feature. Imagine having to wait on your iPad/tablet to boot each time you wanted to use it.
Have you used the Vita's suspend feature? The system instantly comes on. No booting necessary. Additionally, you can get back into your last game in about two seconds. If the PS4 can't do this, I will be very disappointed.
Ahahaha, awesome joke post.
According to the "Your schedule" section of this, you can suspend the system and then come back to play. Even talks about doing things like "walking the dog" (haha).
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I have a vita.
This still doesnt bother me. I do not envision a scenario where I would put my console into suspend mode rather than simply pausing it. If im finished playing or im going out, im going to turn it off completely.
Honestly, the main reason I put my vita on suspend mode is to save the OLED from burn in. Second is to save battery life.
And as ive said, its not like its something you are not getting, its something you are not getting right now. Its less of a issue than the tears shed over instant switching that Xbox one owners will now never get and even that was needless belly aching.
You are probably right. I just saw all the concern with other delayed features (external hdd on XB1), and I am just hoping that Sony isn't waiting until the last minute to air their dirty laundry. Because at the moment, it seems like the best time to do so since there is almost nothing they could say that would make most people cancel their preorders. Their supporters are locked in and are in defence mode.
qa_engineer
Member
I don't know how I'll caryy on living my life. Xbox One wins the hearts and minds of gamers. pack it up, Soñy. The game is over.
Seriously though, patch it.
Seriously though, patch it.
Doesn't actually say you can turn it off, as it's supposed to be an always on console for 10 years, but it certainly implies that doesn't it? We'll know soon.
Suspend means it saves everything into the RAM, so let's say you are in the middle of 'Level 5' in Killzone and suddenly you have to go, you can choose the 'suspend' option.
Console goes in a low-power mode.
When you come back and start the console, you immediately get back to where you was. So you'll return to 'Level 5' in the exact same place where you left it.
Better said: it's like hitting the pause button. (Except now, the console goes in an extremely low-power mode).
yankeehater
Member
I really don't think this is a big deal at all. It was clear that both companies were trying to rush to make a holiday launch this year. Some things were going to have to wait until after the consoles are already out, hopefully this gets patched in quickly.
Nightengale
Member
PS4 has suspend mode on day one.
What it lacks is the current PSP/Vita implementation, where you can put the console to suspend while playing a game, and resuming at any time.
It says you can suspend the gameplay, which basically sounds like a pause button.
I kind of get what the OP means about old Sony.. They do tend to announce features very early that often either turn up really late, or suddenly where just a 'vision' of where they wanted to go..
But still, it's not remotely pre-order cancel worthy.. suspend/resume is cool 'n' all , but we've managed this long without it..
But still, it's not remotely pre-order cancel worthy.. suspend/resume is cool 'n' all , but we've managed this long without it..
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Or.. old sony never left, and is basically just the Obama. They talk the talk but can't walk the walk.
I don't care either way. I don't believe in companies having the best interests in the hearts of gamers.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Uno Venova
Banned
That would be a twist
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Shanks D Zoro
Banned
Wow MS actually has something that will work on its console at launch or is this just a Gold feature???
I am disappointed that this isnt available on the PS4 at launch, but it is no biggy. I plan to be enjoying and using my PS4 for 6+ years. it will come soon enough when it is ready.
I am disappointed that this isnt available on the PS4 at launch, but it is no biggy. I plan to be enjoying and using my PS4 for 6+ years. it will come soon enough when it is ready.
I imagine such a feature is tricky to get running perfectly so it's not surprising. Based on the way Sony talked about it so long I'm guessing it was running fine but some new wrinkle popped up recently and they want to make sure it runs smoothly before rolling it out.
In the end it's a luxury not a necessity so I don't get why this is a big deal.
In the end it's a luxury not a necessity so I don't get why this is a big deal.
For instance, Ben Kilgore, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business said, a player could stop gaming for the day, and then come back the next day and say "Xbox on," and the console would "bring you right back to where you were in the game."
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http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/22/4354614/xbox-one-lets-you-save-and-restart-your-game-at-any-point
Everything that has been stated about it seems to have been stated months ago; A recent update about the feature (after the recent news) would be nice though.
KimonoNoNo
Member
It's going to be a bumpy road for the next couple of months while both these systems bed in.
I don't see the point in getting all bent out of shape about some rather minor feature that's going to be fixed sooner or later.
I don't see the point in getting all bent out of shape about some rather minor feature that's going to be fixed sooner or later.
Bluekaveli
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DidntKnowJack
Member
Now you guys know where that extra $100 really went.
Another timed-exclusivity.
TheLegendary
Member
Exactly. Why would MS advertise the feature if it was really just "pause"? You've been able to do that since the original NES. They've described what you can do already, so unless they've made an announcement about the feature being delayed/changed like Sony did then I'm not sure why people are thinking that the Xbox wont have it
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
This is ridiculous. The whole process takes less than a minute. Even less if you put the disk in the drive while the console is in stand by.
Wonder Cheese
Banned
This is concerning to me because it seems like a feature that would have a significant hardware aspect for it to work reliably. The fact that it's not there makes me wonder whether it's more of a hardware problem then failure to program this feature into the OS (not an overall "this hardware is faulty" problem, just not built to support this feature). I'm no console engineer so I don't know this by any means, it's just seems concerning to me. It's a bummer for sure, I was really looking forward to this feature.
Anyhow, I hope this ends up working because it really sounded convenient.
Anyhow, I hope this ends up working because it really sounded convenient.
DidntKnowJack
Member
You' don't seem to be getting the point of this feature. In the absence of saving anywhere, suspend is a friggin godsend.
Iorv3th
Member
Yeah it's something that bugs me too. I really like that with vita I can suspend and pick up wherever without having to wait for booting up the system, loading the game, loading the save, etc etc. I like it just instantly being where I left off.
I REALLY hope it does not take them long to patch it in. Especially since it was something that they really talked about as what seemed like a core feature of the experience. (Even showing in that remote play video where the girl just picks up from knack at school and it resumes from the same spot she paused on earlier).
I REALLY hope it does not take them long to patch it in. Especially since it was something that they really talked about as what seemed like a core feature of the experience. (Even showing in that remote play video where the girl just picks up from knack at school and it resumes from the same spot she paused on earlier).