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Metal Gear Solid V Res Confirmed: Sub-720p (PS3/360), 720p (XB1), 1080p (PS4)
- Thread starter DarkLordMalik
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Biggest thing there is the last-gen shadows. Jesus Christ, it's like Snake is being followed around by a game of god damn Tetris.
Also to the people saying others shouldn't be shocked by this. I don't think that is the issue many are having.
For all intent and purposes MGS GZ is a last gen game that is "polished" for next gen hardware. If it can't pull off 1080p that is very alarming.
Multiplat games will always look better on PS4, but when Top AAA PS4 first party games start coming out it'll put XB1 games to shame.
For all intent and purposes MGS GZ is a last gen game that is "polished" for next gen hardware. If it can't pull off 1080p that is very alarming.
Multiplat games will always look better on PS4, but when Top AAA PS4 first party games start coming out it'll put XB1 games to shame.
TetraGenesis
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You left off two zeros at the end there.
subjective but i dont think the difference is worth mentioning
ps4 - ps3 difference is what i would call stark
secretanchitman
Member
I'm honestly surprised that the Xbone is 720p/60fps. When Kojima said that the differences were small between the next-gen systems, I thought it would be really minute but 720p vs 1080p? It's a huge difference!
1080p/60fps on my PS4 will be awesome nonetheless.
1080p/60fps on my PS4 will be awesome nonetheless.
You're not crazy for thinking that. The guys at Kojima Productions are really skilled coders.
symmetrical
Member
That's a perfect world you're asking for.
How else would they keep fooling the unaware populace into buying the "lesser" versions if all developers are open like that. Don't get me wrong, I agree it would be nice if we didn't have to wait until a DF article to know these types of things.
Self_Destructive
Member
Not only that, but all the previewers that went to the MGS5 bootcamp thing said the PS4 version also ran smoother... that's kinda worrying for Xbox One owners.
Yup and that was a horrible gamble in my opinion.
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
Is there going to be a new thread detailing the resolution and frame rate of every next gen game? I'll save you guys the trouble:
PS4 - (probably) higher FPS and higher resolution
Xbox One - (probably) lower than PS4 in FPS and resolution
PS4 - (probably) higher FPS and higher resolution
Xbox One - (probably) lower than PS4 in FPS and resolution
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Whelp, still gonna go either PS3 or 360 on this. I think i'll go with the PS3.
Though I'm a bit disappointed the current-gen versions seem to be sub HD w/ scaling to 720p.
Though I'm a bit disappointed the current-gen versions seem to be sub HD w/ scaling to 720p.
There is barely a difference in this shot. Some of the other xbone/360 shots ye, but this one is almost identical
Is the 360 version at a lower resolution? Looking at the barbed wire on the left the 360 is less defined.
Probably the same as the PS3/360 versions, but a tiny bit better looking.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
PS4 version looks substantially better than the Xbox One. After CoD, BF, TR, etc...this should not surprise anyone.
Glad we're getting 1080p and 60 frames on PS4. Game looks gorgeous.
Glad we're getting 1080p and 60 frames on PS4. Game looks gorgeous.
GHG
Gold Member
Wow, the internal hardware teams at Microsoft's Xbox division need a fucking slap for this.
How on earth did they think the hardware they put out was a good idea?
Its basically like they built a whole piece of hardware arund the mistake that Nvidia made with the GTX 660 in terms of its VRAM configuration:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review/2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47788241&postcount=3798
Horrible bottlenecks everywhere, no matter how much you try to code for it specifically.
No amount of SDK releases will fix this.
How on earth did they think the hardware they put out was a good idea?
Its basically like they built a whole piece of hardware arund the mistake that Nvidia made with the GTX 660 in terms of its VRAM configuration:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review/2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47788241&postcount=3798
Horrible bottlenecks everywhere, no matter how much you try to code for it specifically.
No amount of SDK releases will fix this.
Maybe the same textures/shadows etc as PS3/360, but with locked 720p @ 30fps, rather than scaling up to 720p?
Unknown One
Member
Kojima got nothing to lose really. He knows most of the current gen players would buy it in PS4.
SolidSnakex
Member
I think DF would sitll be necessary for things like AA and exactly what the framerate looked like (60fps rarely means that a game is locked at that framerate). We've seen a few developers finally bite the bullet and just come out and say "This version is X resolution and this version is Y resolution". I mean, I definitely understand that they're trying to sell all versions of their game. But the news is going to get out eventually.
SwiftDeath
Member
welp that's a big resolution difference. Seems like one next gen console is not like the other
It's most likely sub hd, maybe 600-near720p something.
Yes. It is important for consumers to be informed as to the precise differences in multiplatform games, including resolution, framerate and different effects in place so they can make the informed decision over which version they would get.
For example, a consumer might prefer the XBO controller and online functionality, but might feel the gap is so big on a particular multiplatform game that they'd get it for PS4. Or the opposite might be true: the difference between multiplatform games might be small enough that they'll just go with the system that allows them to play with their favorite controller.
It makes me laugh every time people like you come into these threads that clearly annoy you only to complain about consumers being better informed. The implication being you would actually prefer we don't have these discussions, so that consumers might be more ignorant.
I'm reading the captions on the pictures in the link. They refer to the Xbox One version having "better lighting" and "improved resolution" in comparison to Xbox 360.
So yeah, maybe the Xbox 360 version is sub-HD...
In the link you gave it's kind of hard to tell for 360 and XB1 too, but that's partially because there isn't something as readily obvious as a sign in English to use as a reference point like PS3/PS4. If you pay attention to the sand/dirt though you can tell it's way sharper on XB1, so I expect similar for stuff like signs just because there's more ram for sharper textures, even if the framerate is barely better than last gen.
Zooming in on the pictures the XB1 pics ARE subtly sharper, which makes them examples for 720p native actually making a difference. But like I said more RAM means more memory for textures so I think even at the same exact resolution XB1 was going to look much nicer anyway.
RealityPales
Member
When do we stop acting surprised by news like this?
AgentChris
Member
Greatness awaits. Thanks Kojima.
killatopak
Gold Member
inb4 thread goes boom.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
What they really need to do is invent a time machine and go back in time to fix their mistakes.
No offense, but why enter a spec thread to not talk about performance? Perhaps someone is only going to buy one console and want the best value for their money. Most people buy 3rd party software so these comparisons are important.
Just because we aren't surprised doesn't mean this isn't news.
Indignation
Neo Member
Atleast Kojima has been quoted on saying "PS4 hits 60fps with room to spare". Still who knows tho but yea
pretty done
Member
Kinect Sports Rivals (lol) I think
This seems to be the opposite of Tomb Raider DE, where both versions were 1080p but PS4 was around 50-60fps while X1 was 30 and lower at times. Now here it's both 60FPS but one is 1090p and the other is 720p.
But that means we won't have hilarious threads of denial and meltdowns...
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