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Xbox’s E3 to Focus on Hardcore Gamers, Some News Coming in May and More

iceatcs

Junior Member
Never forget...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=518712

TheOddOne broke my heart, crushed my soul and trampled over my dreams, but not before manically laughing and pissing on the last few burning embers of hope (that he helped stoked) I had that PGR5 might one day become a reality.

Hehe. This thread taught lot people on the timing development. I just cannot believe so many people believe this new independence studio can make a big launch title within 2 years.
 
Only that was Xbox last generation's relationship. Leading platform, ease of development, strong online support Xbox. Siding with Microsoft was a no brainer. But not this generation Xbox.

Said it before and will say it again, third-party exclusives will die out this generation. The main exclusives will be first party only.

That's your forecast, but it doesn't necessarily mean things will turn out that way.

If the independent developers decide to forge their own destiny, then naturally a lot of relationships can change. But we've seen no indication yet for that to be the case with guys like Remedy, Playground and Underground Labs. ( especially the latter, whom recently signed multi-game deal with MS)
 

TheOddOne

Member
TheOddOne (and Shaneus) broke my heart, crushed my soul and trampled over my dreams, but not before manically laughing and pissing on the last few burning embers of hope (that he helped stoked) I had that PGR5 might one day become a reality.
The worst thing about that thread was that insiders gave the nod that it would happen. Seems that the thread was the only source of insiders.

I've learned my lesson with that.
 

Marvel

could never
Well its going to be awkward looking at this soon....

iboA2Z25Lq5hkL.gif
 
Only that was Xbox last generation's relationship. Leading platform, ease of development, strong online support Xbox. Siding with Microsoft was a no brainer. But not this generation Xbox.

All of those relationships and deals were drawn up before Microsoft fluffed their launch, fell far behind their competition and the hardware discrepancy between them was really known.

The Xbox One can only ride the goodwill the Xbox 360 generated for so long. When it comes to designing a brand new next-gen only game from this point onwards, Microsoft's wishes of exclusivity have everything stacked against them.

Said it before and will say it again, third-party exclusives will die out this generation. The main exclusives will be first party only.

Porting is easy and games are getting more expensive. Why limit your options?

I don't see what being market leader and being easier to dev for has to do with taking money from a publisher who's willing to fund your project that may not get made otherwise.
 

Pain

Banned
I think he's trying too hard.
I mean that's who the audience should have always been. This is pretty much common sense. This is who E3 is for.
 

GopherD

Member
Tell us more. :)

OK, I will say that it will be almost a necessity to own all consoles by the end of 2015. So much is being green lit, from a hungry MS to a Sony that is desperate to stay ahead and from a Nintendo who is still trying to work out how to move its brilliant IPs into mainstream.

Devs and publishers have worked out that genre fatigue is real and is expensive to ignore
 
Interesting. I guess the positive of this is there will be more to differentiate the two consoles. Last gen it seemed they merged into one to me

Even excluding the 'sekrets known only by the D', I don't see how things are fundamentally different.

We know that MS has pretty much funded several 3rd-party devs into making games for them, and new games of such nature will be introduced at e3.

Sony's no different. Heck, they have entire studios dedicated towards that role. (XDev, Foster, SSM Incubation, Japan Studio External Team )

The day 3rd-party exclusives die out, we'll know since there'll be studio shutdowns at Sony.
 
OK, I will say that it will be almost a necessity to own all consoles by the end of 2015. So much is being green lit, from a hungry MS to a Sony that is desperate to stay ahead and from a Nintendo who is still trying to work out how to move its brilliant IPs into mainstream.

... that is perhaps the interesting part.
 
I'll be entirely unsurprised if GopherD is promising itsfuckingnothing.gif. Publishers will never work out that genre fatigue is real, and only the desperate would accept moneyhats from Microsoft, knowing that they're going to be missing out on the majority of next-gen gamers.

I'm anticipating a show of stuff that's already revealed, stuff that ntkrnl leaked, and lots of talking about Xbox Originals.
 

benny_a

extra source of jiggaflops
I'll be entirely unsurprised if GopherD is promising itsfuckingnothing.gif. Publishers will never work out that genre fatigue is real, and only the desperate would accept moneyhats from Microsoft, knowing that they're going to be missing out on the majority of next-gen gamers.
You get a your project paid for and probably some royalties. It's pretty safe for the moneyhatted.

Of course I think it's annoying if they moneyhat a multiplatform publisher's team to do that, but you can't really argue with the publisher deciding to sign up with that.

I think what the platform holders should always do is funding interesting games either by their first party or independent developers. Multiplatform publishers should make multiplatform games.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
With no offence intended

Who is GopherD and how much stock should I put in his/her pronouncements?
 
In an era where big publishers are increasingly focusing their resources on safe bets and reducing their number of retail releases, why wouldn't independent developers accept first-party funding?

Not every developer is Respawn or Insomniac, who are taking the risk of ensuring they own the IP of the game they're making, even though it potentially cuts off many funding avenues or support they will get from publishers.
 
Who is GopherD and how much stock should I put in his/her pronouncements?

I used to think he was one of the 'super insiders' but, personally, after hyping up (TGS?) and the Sony launch day event with "gamer's speeches" we all read into (because of his special insider aura) nothing happened so stock is down.
 

Huggers

Member
You remember the 8-bit and 16-bit days when the consoles were completely different. I miss that. The Mega Drive and Snes had a completely different look, sound and games library. I liked that. It was always fun as a kid seeing the console you didn't own at a mates house or whatever and it being so different to what you already knew. The 360 and PS3 generation had none of this, the games all looked the same. Except Bayonetta...

E3 is going to be fascinating this year, competition has never been fiercer and Microsoft aren't going to take the round one knock down well, expect them to come out swinging big time and Sony to of course counter.

Meanwhile Nintendo have fallen off the radar of the mainstream again after so much success with the Wii. Wonder what they have in store.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
I used to think he was one of the 'super insiders' but, personally, after hyping up (TGS?) and the Sony launch day event with "gamer's speeches" we all read into (because of his special insider aura) nothing happened so stock is down.

Sony employee


like DemonNite

I believe could be wrong


could just be a super insider

He is a valid Insider mostly on Sony Games. But he is not very outspoken or speaks in metaphoras. ;)

Hm okay

So it would be reasonable to infer that anything he/she says about MS or Nintendo is hearsay at best?
 

ekim

Member
OK, I will say that it will be almost a necessity to own all consoles by the end of 2015. So much is being green lit, from a hungry MS to a Sony that is desperate to stay ahead and from a Nintendo who is still trying to work out how to move its brilliant IPs into mainstream.

Devs and publishers have worked out that genre fatigue is real and is expensive to ignore

This is music to my ears.
 

H4r4kiri

Member
Hm okay

So it would be reasonable to infer that anything he/she says about MS or Nintendo is hearsay at best?

Well i wouldn't say this. As a Sonyinsider you still no what you are not getting and which publishers produce what and for whom. I think he is legit.
 
You get a your project paid for and probably some royalties. It's pretty safe for the moneyhatted.

Of course I think it's annoying if they moneyhat a multiplatform publisher's team to do that, but you can't really argue with the publisher deciding to sign up with that.

On the other hand, massive opportunity cost of not being on the PS4, which is currently demolishing the Xbone in terms of unit sales worldwide, and generally speaking PS4 versions of multiplatform games outsell Xbone versions. Hence why I said only the desperate would accept a Microsoft moneyhat.

[Edit] Oh yeah, GopherD is that jackass who was hyping TGS and Sony's launch event, and in both cases we got nothing? Yeah, ignore him, he knows less than famousmortimer.
 
I used to think he was one of the 'super insiders' but, personally, after hyping up (TGS?) and the Sony launch day event with "gamer's speeches" we all read into (because of his special insider aura) nothing happened so stock is down.
To be a "super insider" do you have to have blonde spiky hair?
 
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