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No New Final Fantasy XV Info at E3 2014

farisr

Member
This thread and the Witcher 3 thread painfully shows the current state and trajectory of AAA JRPG and WRPG. One showcasing inefficient development cycle and other ascending and putting out something that seems to have much better production values at half the budget. I will get both regardless, but SE needs to reevaluate their ways.

Honestly, I wish WRPGs appealed to me as much as JRPGs (like this, not the tales or atelier games) do.

The Witcher 1 & 2, didn't gain my attention. But The Witcher 3 has it right now. Maybe because of the pretty graphics I don't know. But still...
 
Is there any truth to Hashimoto saying development is going smoothly?

Well, I mean, what else is he going to say?


"FFXV? Well... ermm... it... "

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Scum

Junior Member
Just so we're clear, this game was first announced eight years ago, right?
Yep. The Witcher series didn't even exist then. The third will be out before FFXV. There has also been two European Football Championships (2008 & 2012) and two World Cup tournaments (2006 & 2010) since, with the third starting next week.
 
Yep. The Witcher series didn't even exists then. The third will be out before FFXV. There has also been two European Football Championships and two World Cup tournaments since, with the third starting next week.

Also seven Assassin's Creed games.

EDIT: that's counting Liberation. If you count Comet and Unity coming this year, it'll be nine. Nine Assassin's Creed games conceived, announced, developed, and released since FFXV was announced.
 
This thread and the Witcher 3 thread painfully shows the current state and trajectory of AAA JRPG and WRPG. One showcasing inefficient development cycle and other ascending and putting out something that seems to have much better production values at half the budget. I will get both regardless, but SE needs to reevaluate their ways.

Being fair is half the budget because low cost in developoment of country where is developed.
 

jiggle

Member
FFXII was in development hell and resurfaced to controversial reception
FFXIII was in development hell and resurfaced to somewhat negative reception
FFXIV was mismanaged in the worst way possible, shitted out to the public, and forced SE to redo the entire game from scratch. A bizarrely transparent and very public "development hell" if you will.
FFXV has obviously been in development hell at least once and is going back underground after a very pointed effort to "re-unveil" the title.

Basically, SE hasn't had "normal" development since FF XII on the PS2. The studio has some serious problems with software development and project management. It's one thing for a studio to have a "duke nukem forever", or a "half life 3", the story of one game that will just refuse to surface. It's another to have a nonending stream of major release after major release that consists of nothing but development headaches, broken promises, ridiculous waiting times, bizarre results, and a pissed off fanbase.

I'm honestly amazed that they're still in business. I guess their iOS games are making so much it's keeping them afloat because their mainline FF series hasn't had regular, sane human being development for well over a decade.
What makes it worse is they don't even have many b-tier games to pad the release schedule anymore

Why isn't triace given more work
Simply baffling
 

Holykael1

Banned
Now that's pretty incredible. Hell, Mass Effect didn't either.



Why is the country of origin an inherent factor regarding development costs?

Paying the devs themselves monthly accounts for much of the costs related to the development of video games. In the country where the Witcher is made, salaries are lower. That's a big factor.
 
Sometimes I wonder what goes on in the workspace behind the scenes. Do they just chat, have social hour for about half the day then like at the last two or so hours decide to actually work?

I mean what do they do?
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Paying the devs themselves monthly accounts for much of the costs related to the development of video games. In the country where the Witcher is made, salaries are lower. That's a big factor.

Alright, that makes sense. Thinking about it, there are also other elements such as government subsidies that can come into play.
 

wanders

Member
Why hasn't there been another developer step up and make an alternative game similar to FFXV. Its been 8 years and not one RPG has been released that was similar in setting.

That's a lot of money just standing there

Fucking A
 
Sometimes I wonder what goes on in the workspace behind the scenes. Do they just chat, have social hour for about half the day then like at the last two or so hours decide to actually work?

I mean what do they do?

I feel like even working two hours a day, they should still have more to show for it than they do now. I don't know how they haven't all died of embarrassment for wasting such a gargantuan amount of time.
 
That's not a fair comparisson, several teams works on every AC game.

Yeah, but they're still huge games, with big HD towns (which are hard lol) and huge production values, and also there will have been at least nine of them before XV is released. Don't tell me that's not at least a little embarrassing for SE.

Your Witcher comparison is also very embarrassing for SE.

Basically SE is embarrassing.
 

dramatis

Member
Why hasn't there been another developer step up and make an alternative game similar to FFXV. Its been 8 years and not one RPG has been released that was similar in setting.

That's a lot of money just standing there

Fucking A
There's been rumors about a Sony JRPG, but of course, those are just rumors.
 
Why hasn't there been another developer step up and make an alternative game similar to FFXV. Its been 8 years and not one RPG has been released that was similar in setting.

That's a lot of money just standing there

Fucking A

Because JRPGs that aren't Final Fantasy
(and possibly ones that are Final Fantasy these days)
simply don't sell enough to justify anything close to FF production values, unless a first party is footing the bill (X, maybe that rumored first-party PS4 JRPG).
 

TuXx

Member
I wasn't really all that excited for E3 this year. Now with the news of no XV or KH3, my excitement level is pretty much on a 3 right now
 
i was expecting an ENGLISH trailer for E3. But if their gonna show it at Tokyo Game Show they probably don't even have english voice overs done.

I dont think theyll announce a release date at TGS
 
I have a horrible, completely irrational feeling FFXV might be the last big budget AAA FF.

I just don't know how this shitty organization can even attempt making another ambitious FF game without it taking a ridiculous amount of time.
As EatinOlives pointed out a page or two back- they really haven't had a smooth mainline FF production since as far back as FFX. That was 2001.

Even with Wada gone I'm not filled with a lot of confidence regarding S-E upper management. I mean, was it a bad translation last year when they said they'd start being more transparent with FFXV's production and we'd get more frequent updates?
We haven't gotten shit in 12 months and if Kagari's information is accurate (I have no reason to believe it's not) we might not be getting anything for a few more months still.

These days it seems the real visionaries within the company are either swallowed up, handcuffed, or forced out. I can't think of many young, talented individuals within S-E that can carry the torch. They just don't seem to be grooming a lot of new talent- at least on the surface. Remember when Nomura was the young hotshot? He'll be 44 in October.
There was a creative culture within this company absolutely bursting at the seams creating new projects, new IPs, continuing old favorites, and had the respect of everyone in the industry. Fast-forward about 14 years and the situation is a night & day difference.


I believe, whenever it hits, that FFXV will be a big hit. It's hugely anticipated, it'll look outstanding, and it'll sell a lot of copies- but that said, Hashimoto (I think?) has already hinted at plans to make sequels to it. It's already being designed as possibly another 'trilogy', like XIII, and that just doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth after the past few years.
The whole thing just fucking bums me out.
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
leave the poor guy alone.

i still have some hope the game will be at E3 and this is a elaborate hype builder.

i'm completely lost at this point. the point of no return.

BELIEVE!
 

SkylineRKR

Member
This game is a long running joke. It actually hasn't even started full production.

Might be. The in-game footage they showed was clearly bullshit and the game will not look like that. Same with WKC, Watch Dogs and all that shit.

But as with TLG i'd rather have someone to come out and say 'yeah, we've cancelled the whole thing'. Then start over with something else, keep the silence and announce when the release date is surely only a year away or so.

Remember when FFVII - FFIX came out within 3 years from eachother? Yeah those were times.
 

todd360

Member
TGS seems like a huge fail for big announcements every year. The last time I remember TGS actually having something cool was KH2.
 

TL21xx

Banned
You are so lucky, I was 12 when this was announced, now I'm almost 21.

The truth; I am 21 and in my senior year of college. The wait has been miserable to say the least. It also doesn't help that it dragged Kingdom Hearts III with it.

All I really want to see is more companies try to capture that same kind of magic that SE had in the SNES - PS(2) era. Outside of Xenoblade, I can't say I've really played anything that feels like it's in that vein.
 

fedexpeon

Banned
I guess Sony saw this coming and sold all SE stocks before the value dropping again?

What does SE even have for 2014, 2015 beside remastered stuff?
LOL...oh man, I guess we shouldn't have bought FFX:RM because SE will now remastered FF13 at this point before releasing a new IP.
 
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