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[WJD]

I can see why the guy's is pissed about his dog. I have a dog myself, and I would be pissed if someone injured my dog.

However, the guy on video is overreacting. It could be genuinely or it could be him looking for blue money.

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

OVERreacting?! The guy stayed cool and reasoned as hell considering his circumstances.

 

[collige]

Every time I hear about something like this, I'm reminded of this clip from Chapelle's show. Over a decade later, it's still accurate.

 

[PsychBat!]

smh

Nothing I say will change the pure hatred of cops on this forum.

Way to generalize. Keep going!

 

[Gordon Shumway]

...on private property he had no business being on.

Also, I could barely make it out from the video but the dog looked like a Beagle I think? Hardly known to be 'aggressive', as his colleague put it. And even so, it's a fucking dog. Absolutely no reason in hell to shoot it with a lethal firearm.

edit: it's a weimaraner:

I didn't know he shot a white walker..that changes things..

Spoiler

poor pup

 

[minx]

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

Quit it with the rationality. Also people look up exigent circumstances. You can trespass with them. I'm not saying the officer was totally right in what he did. We just don't know all the facts here. It's not as simple as cop shot dog.

 

[CLBridges]

I can see why the guy's is pissed about his dog. I have a dog myself, and I would be pissed if someone injured my dog.

However, the guy on video is overreacting. It could be genuinely or it could be him looking for blue money.

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

The dog was killed. An animal can survive an injury, but this was fatal. Would that change your opinion if your dog was not just injured, but killed? We don't know how long this guy has had this dog nor their history together. How can you justify even typing that the victim over-reacted? I just don't get posts like this tbh.

 

[Siegcram]

It's not as simple as cop shot dog.

Since that's literally what happened, yeah it is.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

smh



Way to generalize. Keep going!

Generalize? Lmao.

Do you read the threads involving stories with cops on GAF>

 

[one_kill]

Quit it with the rationality. Also people look up exigent circumstances. You can trespass with them. I'm not saying the officer was totally right in what he did. We just don't know all the facts here. It's not as simple as cop shot dog.

What the fuck are you going on about? A cop shot the dog.

 

[iMax]

Quit it with the rationality. Also people look up exigent circumstances. You can trespass with them. I'm not saying the officer was totally right in what he did. We just don't know all the facts here. It's not as simple as cop shot dog.

Surely that only applies when it's the property in question, not just some random house.

 

[PsychBat!]

Quit it with the rationality. Also people look up exigent circumstances. You can trespass with them. I'm not saying the officer was totally right in what he did. We just don't know all the facts here. It's not as simple as cop shot dog.

Generalize? Lmao.

Do you read the threads involving stories with cops on GAF>

 

[minx]

Generalize? Lmao.

Do you read the threads involving stories with cops on GAF>

Apparently he hasn't even read this thread where people want all cops killed. Or to take away their guns. That would go over great in America.

 

[Katsa]

Again with the victim shaming. WTF is wrong with you people?!?

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.

If you think this guy is overreacting then there isn't a word for how I would have reacted. This guy was calm and as friendly as you could possibly be in this situation.

He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

 

[CornBurrito]

I can see why the guy's is pissed about his dog. I have a dog myself, and I would be pissed if someone injured my dog.

However, the guy on video is overreacting. It could be genuinely or it could be him looking for blue money.

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

Pissed as in pissed when someone accidentally damages one of your objects? Like if a friend drops your phone and shatters the screen? That sort of pissed?

Or "someone just shot a member of my family" pissed?

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.




He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

The cops weren't chasing a suspect...

And Jesus Christ, you are basically saying he is a little bitch for being sad that someone killed his family member.

The fact that you compare losing a dog to having your skateboard broken is really telling. Not everyone treats their pet like a replaceable object.

 

[minx]

What the fuck are you going on about? A cop shot the dog.

Well like I have said we don't know all the facts but most likely this was a legal kill if there were exigent circumstances and he felt his life was threatened. Which I'm sure people here will love to hear.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.




He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

The officers didnt confront him because they know their buddy cop done goofed. He kept his composure bro.

 

[PsychBat!]

Apparently he hasn't even read this thread where people want all cops killed. Or to take away their guns. That would go over great in America.

LOL please point out where people actually want to go on a massacre on cops.

apparently fuck cops = kill them all to you.

 

[one_kill]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.




He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

Holy shit.

From the site: "“We were looking for a lost child,” an officer replies, then adding, “He entered the yard looking for a lost child. He was threatened by the dog and shot the dog. That’s as simple as it gets.”

The cop could've scouted the yard before entering. He didn't even need to enter the yard. What reasonable insight did the cop have that the lost child was in that yard in the first place?

And the owner did so well in holding back. I don't get why you're arguing against that.

 

[Siegcram]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.




He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

You said he either was overly emotional towards the fact that some asshole killed his pet or he was hamming it up for the money. Both of which is fucking insulting.

And how you think he was the one overreacting in this whole scenario suggests you should get out more. The bolded is especially bullshit.

 

[Katsa]

Pissed as in pissed when someone accidentally damages one of your objects? Like if a friend drops your phone and shatters the screen? That sort of pissed?

Or "someone just shot a member of my family" pissed?

Either way, composure and self-control goes a long way. What good does it do me to whine, bitch, cuss, cry, etc.? Is it going to fix the problem? No. You deal with it, and try to find a solution (in this case move, get another dog or file a lawsuit, whatever the case).

Also, a dog is not a human. I love animals (I'm a vegetarian), but no animal can compare to a human being.

 

[minx]

LOL please point out where people actually want to go on a massacre on cops.

apparently fuck cops = kill them all to you.

I'm on my phone and can't multi quote but try reading the thread.

 

[CornBurrito]

Either way, composure and self-control goes a long way. What good does it do me to whine, bitch, cuss, cry, etc.? Is it going to fix the problem? No. You deal with it, and try to find a solution (in this case move, get another dog or file a lawsuit, whatever the case).

Also, a dog is not a human. I love animals (I'm a vegetarian), but no animal can compare to a human being.

You must be a hoot at funerals.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Apparently he hasn't even read this thread where people want all cops killed. Or to take away their guns. That would go over great in America.

I'm certainly not on your side on this story. Don't mistake me for that.

Just pointing out that anyone who thinks GAF on large doesn't jump at a chance to shit on "pigs" in every situation is kidding themselves.

 

[one_kill]

Either way, composure and self-control goes a long way. What good does it do me to whine, bitch, cuss, cry, etc.? Is it going to fix the problem? No. You deal with it, and try to find a solution (in this case move, get another dog or file a lawsuit, whatever the case).

Also, a dog is not a human. I love animals (I'm a vegetarian), but no animal can compare to a human being.

Wow dude. Just wow.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Well like I have said we don't know all the facts but most likely this was a legal kill if there were exigent circumstances and he felt his life was threatened. Which I'm sure people here will love to hear.

I'm on my phone and can't multi quote but try reading the thread.

Hey look! I just multi quoted you from my phone!

 

[PsychBat!]

I'm on my phone and can't multi quote but try reading the thread.

Already have a few times, but it looks like you've just skimmed through the posts and made a bullshit claim in which you think that GAF posters explicitly stated that all cops should die.

And yes, you can multi quote on your phone. There's an option to do that.

 

[Skeyser]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.




He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

And this is why I don't visit this forum much these days, some of the shit that get posted here is infuriating.

 

[block tower]

I can see why the guy's is pissed about his dog. I have a dog myself, and I would be pissed if someone injured my dog.

However, the guy on video is overreacting. It could be genuinely or it could be him looking for blue money.

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

 

[soundahfekz]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.






He sounded like a 13-yo kid who's skateboard was just ran over by a car. This is why the officers were really just observing the guy, because he was acting semi-belligerent. He needed to keep his composure and have an intelligent dialogue (whether he was genuinely upset or looking for a lawsuit).

Every fucking time there's a cop story the cop apologists dredge up the same "we don't know the facts" BS.

Here's the facts:

Private property
No permission to be on or in private property.
dog shot on said private property.

It doesn't get any easier. Officers also carry tasers, but I guess you're going to come up with some shit about how they can get their gun confused with it.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-furious-man-confronts-police-officer-enters-yard-shoots-best-friend-head/#rWSYjLi0CRXokEf8.01

This is completely hearbreaking. Shoot me if old.

Wow

 

[minx]

Hey look! I just multi quoted you from my phone!

I'm not sure how. Sorry.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Either way, composure and self-control goes a long way. What good does it do me to whine, bitch, cuss, cry, etc.? Is it going to fix the problem? No. You deal with it, and try to find a solution (in this case move, get another dog or file a lawsuit, whatever the case).

Also, a dog is not a human. I love animals (I'm a vegetarian), but no animal can compare to a human being.

Jesus fucking christ.

 

[Katsa]

Holy shit.

From the site: "“We were looking for a lost child,” an officer replies, then adding, “He entered the yard looking for a lost child. He was threatened by the dog and shot the dog. That’s as simple as it gets.”

The cop could've scouted the yard before entering. He didn't even need to enter the yard. What reasonable insight did the cop have that the lost child was in that yard in the first place?

And the owner did so well in holding back. I don't get why you're arguing against that.

Which site was this? I missed it.

Was this child in dire need? Kidnapped? False imprisonment) Was his life in danger (exigent circumstance)? If this is the case, the officer was still justified in putting the dog down.

Now, if he was just casually looking for a truant minor or so, than that's a different story. He may be liable at this point, which would be settled in court, when all the facts are given.

Again, these cases have a lot of moving parts, they're not so black and white.

 

[hertog]

If someone killed my dog or cat.......

I'd be going to jail for a long time.

 

[CornBurrito]

Which site was this? I missed it.

Was this child in dire need? Kidnapped? False imprisonment) Was his life in danger (exigent circumstance)? If this is the case, the officer was still justified in putting the dog down.

Now, if he was just casually looking for a truant minor or so, than that's a different story. He may be liable at this point, which would be settled in court, when all the facts are given.

Again, these cases have a lot of moving parts, they're not so black and white.

Why was the cop justified going on to a private property without a warrant?

Why was he justified in shooting the dog simply because he was looking for someone?

Why do you think humans have the capacity to be emotionless robots and remain perfectly calm and rational when their beloved family member is murdered?

 

[block tower]

Which site was this? I missed it.

Was this child in dire need? Kidnapped? False imprisonment) Was his life in danger (exigent circumstance)? If this is the case, the officer was still justified in putting the dog down.

Now, if he was just casually looking for a truant minor or so, than that's a different story. He may be liable at this point, which would be settled in court, when all the facts are given.

Again, these cases have a lot of moving parts, they're not so black and white.

please stop posting. it's just bullshit at this point.

 

[PsychBat!]

Good job. Next step is to read the thread.

Why don't you read the thread and don't immediately assume that since it's a "cop-did-something-stupid" thread that every GAF poster is going to be some raging psycho saying that all cops should die?

That would be fantastic.

 

[one_kill]

Which site was this? I missed it.

Was this child in dire need? Kidnapped? False imprisonment) Was his life in danger (exigent circumstance)? If this is the case, the officer was still justified in putting the dog down.

Now, if he was just casually looking for a truant minor or so, than that's a different story. He may be liable at this point, which would be settled in court, when all the facts are given.

Again, these cases have a lot of moving parts, they're not so black and white.

The site in the OP... you know, the one with the video?

Or maybe you didn't watch it?

 

[Katsa]

Every fucking time there's a cop story the cop apologists dredge up the same "we don't know the facts" BS.

Here's the facts:

Private property
No permission to be on or in private property.
dog shot on said private property.

It doesn't get any easier. Officers also carry tasers, but I guess you're going to come up with some shit about how they can get their gun confused with it.

I can see where this is going go with the whole taser thing...

Those are your facts. Do you know the dog owner? Are you his lawyer? Are you working with the police department handling the case? Are you with animal control?

Who are you really...to state "these are facts"? How are you qualified? Clicking on a link and reading an article?

 

[werks]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.

Wtf are you talking about. You are literally making shit up that didn't happen to justify the shooting.

I got a better one for you. If aliens were planning to invade earth from this guys backyard and the hero cop went to save humanity, and while conducting his heroic duty killed the dog. It would be justified.

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

I can see why the guy's is pissed about his dog. I have a dog myself, and I would be pissed if someone injured my dog.

However, the guy on video is overreacting. It could be genuinely or it could be him looking for blue money.

Nevertheless, we don't know the details of the case, or what exigent circumstance the officer had for him to shoot the dog. I doubt the officer woke up and said "I feel like shooting a dog today..."; not to mention that firing the service weapon while on duty holds tremendous liability and accountability. It sucks that a dog had to die, but if the officer felt threatened (assuming he had legal justification to be in the property), he is justified in putting that dog down.

Wat in the fuck? Overreacting? I don't understand how ... like just .. what??

so apparently multiple people here can't possibly fathom in their heads that some people consider their pets part of the family. Nevermind the emotional, financial and time investment they have put into a pet/animal... they are fucking part of your life - living and breathing - and are gone cause some asshole doesn't know how to do his job right at all.

Lets make this easier - say the cop came onto your PRIVATE property - without a warrant or reasonable cause to do so and while walking around doing whatever he wants on YOUR property decides for whatever reason to put a few holes through a rare painting/car engine/family heirloom/BEST FUCKING FRIEND of yours who happens to be in your back yard.
I'm sure you'd act like it was no big deal, right? fuckin hell...

And i'll say it again - any cop who can't defend himself from a dog without resorting to shooting it. in the head. is a fucking failure of a police officer and a simpleton weakling. Use you're godamned brain and remove yourself from the place you shouldn't be anyways and call the homeowner...

 

[charlequin]

I'm not saying the officer was totally right in what he did. We just don't know all the facts here.

Except... we do? The police entered a person's property without warning, in pursuit of a case entirely unrelated to the resident, and moved immediately to lethal force. Because of the nature of the purpose they were pursuing, the police were under no immediate time pressure to act because of imminent danger to a human being, and since they had no need to remain on the property after performing a basic examination, could have acted to restrain the dog long enough to search the yard then move on.

Police officers should not receive the benefit of the doubt in these situations. By virtue of their position of authority, and their designated ability to use lethal force, all police officers must live up to a dramatically higher standard of judgment and behavior than other public servants. In situations that result in death, injury, emotional trauma, or any other type of serious negative impact on civilian bystanders, involved officers who can't produce an absolutely iron-clad, unassailable justification for their actions should bear the full consequences, and the affected citizens should be fully compensated.

Apparently he hasn't even read this thread where people want all cops killed.

Please quote this post, because if someone said that I missed it.

 

[Katsa]

please stop posting. it's just bullshit at this point.

The world is not black and white, might as well stay indoors...

 

[one_kill]

I can see where this is going go with the whole taser thing...

Those are your facts. Do you know the dog owner? Are you his lawyer? Are you working with the police department handling the case? Are you with animal control?

Who are you really...to state "these are facts"? How are you qualified? Clicking on a link and reading an article?

You know you're fighting a losing fight when you start asking questions like the ones italicised.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

Which site was this? I missed it.

Was this child in dire need? Kidnapped? False imprisonment) Was his life in danger (exigent circumstance)? If this is the case, the officer was still justified in putting the dog down.

Now, if he was just casually looking for a truant minor or so, than that's a different story. He may be liable at this point, which would be settled in court, when all the facts are given.

Again, these cases have a lot of moving parts, they're not so black and white.

The cop went into his home with no permission and killed his dog.

FUCK THE COP

Also fuck the idea that I can't care about my dog as much as a human being, my dog is my best friend and I care more about him than almost anyone else.

 

[Kinyou]

Not shaming the guy, I'd be upset if my dog was harmed. However, if the officer was chasing a suspect who ran into my backyard, and my dog charged at the officer during this altercation, leaving the officer with no option but to fend off my dog, I wouldn't be so quick to blame the officer. I'd be pissed at the suspect for going into property, and dragging the cops with him.

So the dog owner should be pissed at the kid that wasn't hiding in his yard?

 

[CornBurrito]

Wat in the fuck? Overreacting? I don't understand how ... like just .. what??

so apparently multiple people here can't possibly fathom in their heads that some people consider their pets part of the family. Nevermind the emotional, financial and time investment they have put into a pet/animal... they are fucking part of your life - living and breathing - and are gone cause some asshole doesn't know how to do his job right at all.

Lets make this easier - say the cop came onto your PRIVATE property - without a warrant or reasonable cause to do so and while walking around doing whatever he wants on YOUR property decides for whatever reason to put a few holes through a rare painting/car engine/family heirloom/BEST FUCKING FRIEND of yours who happens to be in your back yard.
I'm sure you'd act like it was no big deal, right? fuckin hell...

And i'll say it again - any cop who can't defend himself from a dog without resorting to shooting it. in the head. is a fucking failure of a police officer and a simpleton weakling. Use you're godamned brain and remove yourself from the place you shouldn't be anyways and call the homeowner...

"Lol wtf are you upset for you pussy bitch? Just get another dog and man up." - katsa

 

[Katsa]

Wtf are you talking about. You are literally making shit up that didn't happen to justify the shooting.

I got a better one for you. If aliens were planning to invade earth from this guys backyard and the hero cop went to save humanity, and while conducting his heroic duty killed the dog. It would be justified.

There's a difference between arguing matters of law and legality versus fiction. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you there.

 

[soundahfekz]

I can see where this is going go with the whole taser thing...

Those are your facts. Do you know the dog owner? Are you his lawyer? Are you working with the police department handling the case? Are you with animal control?

Who are you really...to state "these are facts"? How are you qualified? Clicking on a link and reading an article?

Someone definitely has a cop in their immediate family or as a close friend. Holy shit

 

[kitchenmotors]

Weird. Watching this I felt zero compassion for the owner.
I don't harbor any sort of irrational dislike toward animals (haven't touched meat for more than 4 years), but all I could think of was:
- "guys sounds like he's on antidepressants / has fallen back into puberty"
- "police officers seem pretty calm"
- "guess if the guy was black, he'd be dead / tazed / heavily beaten by now"

/ also "guess the guy could be known to be a weirdo in the neighborhood, hence Police checking out his premises for a missed child"

Wow.

This can't be real. Mess.